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  • tatommack
    SBR MVP
    • 10-10-08
    • 4171

    #1
    All Americans should stop paying taxes
    One reason gambling only gambling in my state is the state lotto with odds of 1-50 casinos are 1-15 wtf we are getting robbed. Rights are being taken away from us daily while we are given rights to be gay. They don't want us reproducing.
  • MeatWad
    SBR MVP
    • 01-18-12
    • 1572

    #2
    Sounds like you stole some of your lines from a Merle Haggard song. I agree in spirit though, why pay taxes to fund a bloated inefficient government. Its not like we need more prisons, DEA agents or military sitting on their asses all over the world.
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    • ChalkyDog
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-02-11
      • 9598

      #3
      Welcome to America, pal. Where being Obese is genetics, and your sexual orientation is a choice.

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      • Duff85
        SBR MVP
        • 06-15-10
        • 2920

        #4
        Originally posted by tatommack
        One reason gambling only gambling in my state is the state lotto with odds of 1-50 casinos are 1-15 wtf we are getting robbed. Rights are being taken away from us daily while we are given rights to be gay. They don't want us reproducing.
        You go first bro - tell us how it works out for you.
        Originally posted by ChalkyDog
        Welcome to America, pal. Where being Obese is genetics, and your sexual orientation is a choice.
        Sexual orientation is a choice.
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        • ChalkyDog
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-02-11
          • 9598

          #5
          Originally posted by Duff85
          You go first bro - tell us how it works out for you.


          Sexual orientation is a choice.
          You must from 'round these them here parts.
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          • wikkidinsane
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-30-10
            • 13800

            #6
            sexual orientation is part choice
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            • Ghenghis Kahn
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 19736

              #7
              i don't know man, you think fags choose cocks over pussies? give me a break and think with logic. women's bodies are beautiful, men's bodies not so much...
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              • Tully Mars 63
                SBR MVP
                • 08-06-11
                • 2750

                #8
                Go ahead stop paying taxes. It'll take them a few years to catch on but once they do life will not be pleasant. I've known a few people who've gotten themselves on the wrong side of the IRS they told me they'd rather owe some "Good Fella' bookie."

                I choose to find woman sexually appealing. I have no way of knowing who other people find appealing. Nor do I care.
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                • Dancemanmarc2
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 05-17-12
                  • 224

                  #9
                  If they didn't want us reproducing they'd snip us once we were out of the woam
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                  • Dancemanmarc2
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-17-12
                    • 224

                    #10
                    Before we had a sexual orientation
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                    • King Mayan
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-22-10
                      • 21330

                      #11
                      I chose to be gay once, i didn't like it..

                      Painful.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388208

                        #12
                        If you do not like the USA just leave

                        Nobody stopping you

                        Be a man
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                        • wikkidinsane
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-30-10
                          • 13800

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                          i don't know man, you think fags choose cocks over pussies? give me a break and think with logic. women's bodies are beautiful, men's bodies not so much...

                          I think for some reason , some boys around age 3 or 4 start showing some female tendencies and if not curbed by the father or people around him then he will grow GAY. Because once that kid goes out in socierty and be different (not liking rooster then) but then everyone going to call him GAY even though he dont like guys then he just start being full blown gay because he doesnt belong and humans like belonging and he has nowhere to go.

                          +RUNON+GRAMMAR+EXPERT
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                          • Tully Mars 63
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-06-11
                            • 2750

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            If you do not like the USA just leave

                            Nobody stopping you

                            Be a man
                            Leaving will not solve the problem by itself. You'll need to renounce your citizenship as well. The US requires all citizens regardless of where they live or where they earn their living to to pay US income taxes. If you do renounce I'd suggest you have another citizenship lined up. Otherwise traveling, since you'll no longer have a passport, will be problematic. Last year I think about 3,000 people renounced their citizenship.
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                            • SharpBoxing
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-28-11
                              • 1515

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              If you do not like the USA just leave

                              Nobody stopping you

                              Be a man
                              And thats what smart people are doing right now. Recently one of the co founders of facebook moved to singhapore with all his assets and renounced his US citizenship.
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                              • MUHerd37
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-23-09
                                • 12816

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tully Mars 63
                                Leaving will not solve the problem by itself. You'll need to renounce your citizenship as well. The US requires all citizens regardless of where they live or where they earn their living to to pay US income taxes. If you do renounce I'd suggest you have another citizenship lined up. Otherwise traveling, since you'll no longer have a passport, will be problematic. Last year I think about 3,000 people renounced their citizenship.
                                If u work outside the U.S. for less than a year the first $90,000 is tax free, anything over that starts getting taxed. If u work outside the U.S. for over a year u pay no taxes.
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                                • Antibet
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-30-09
                                  • 1688

                                  #17
                                  Hey, US is the best country in the world. Try living abroad and you'll see.
                                  I prefer living overseas because American chicks are fat.
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                                  • Tully Mars 63
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-06-11
                                    • 2750

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MUHerd37
                                    If u work outside the U.S. for less than a year the first $90,000 is tax free, anything over that starts getting taxed. If u work outside the U.S. for over a year u pay no taxes.
                                    That's true... if you work outside the US. It's called "The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion." This is done via form 2555. If you work as a "contracted worker" or are self employed or if your income is from investments the the foreign income exclusion does not apply. Plus if you return to the US for a period of more then 30 or 35 days it does not apply. I have a friend who works on an oil platform for a Dutch company who PEMEX (Mexico national oil company) contracts with and he spent years trying to get his pay in regular salary instead of under a contract. The year he received a promotion to Safety supervisor he received a rather large increase in pay and was made an official employee rather then a contact worker. That year his mother became very ill and he decide to take two cycles (they work 14 days on the platform and have 16 days off) and spend the holidays with his family. Turns out he was in the US for one day over the limited days and the exclusion was denied. His 30+ day return to the US to visit family cost him nearly 10K. I have a another friend who works for the Asian version of the Food Network. He tells me he stuck paying Singapore as well as US taxes just like I pay US and Mexican taxes.

                                    There's a ton of exemptions to the exclusion I know of very few people who are able to stop paying US taxes completely.

                                    If you have a US pension or US based fund/investments/rental property you're still on the hook. Plus many states make it very difficult for you to give up your state residency for tax purposes or tax domicile. Near as I can tell the main states that are a problem are Virginia, California and New Mexico. If you have property or pension in one of those states you owe state taxes. Myself I live in Mexico. I currently pay federal income taxes on a pension/rental income and property/income taxes on rental properties in two states. I also pay taxes here in Mexico because most of the Mexican system works on a national and states sale taxes.
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                                    • tatommack
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-10-08
                                      • 4171

                                      #19
                                      Some of you just don't get it we need to make a stand. Everyday another right or freedom is takin away.new laws are made every year.
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                                      • sweethook
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-21-07
                                        • 12667

                                        #20
                                        only fare tax is a head tax . ever head pay the same ,
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                                        • Tully Mars 63
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-06-11
                                          • 2750

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sweethook
                                          only fare tax is a head tax . ever head pay the same ,
                                          That's how airlines and buses do it, charge a fare per head. But, at least with airlines, the cost per seat is highly dependent on where and when you bought the ticket for your fare.

                                          I think you might be talking about a head tax being a fair tax. Something I disagree with.
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                                          • MeatWad
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-18-12
                                            • 1572

                                            #22
                                            "If you do not like the USA just leave

                                            Nobody stopping you

                                            Be a man"


                                            This has to be from a Merle Haggard song...."Fighting Side of Me" perhaps? It is a simplistic reduction to say love it or leave it, as there are many often conflicting or convuluted ties that bind someone to a country. Furthermore dissenters often fuel social progress and postive changes.
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                                            • rkelly110
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 10-05-09
                                              • 39410

                                              #23
                                              The only people paying a head tax is women and gay men, that's not fair. It would be fair if the reciever
                                              had to pay.
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                                              • The Kraken
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-25-11
                                                • 29085

                                                #24
                                                Ill pay my taxes as I like having police, fire, EMS, nice roads, great schools for kids, city parks and libraries. To name just a few. You go ahead and start your own dirt road commune and dont tax the people.

                                                But then again, it is me that doesn't understand.
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                                                • chilidog
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-05-09
                                                  • 10305

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                  Ill pay my taxes as I like having police, fire, EMS, nice roads, great schools for kids, city parks and libraries. To name just a few. You go ahead and start your own dirt road commune and dont tax the people.

                                                  But then again, it is me that doesn't understand.
                                                  Your federal income taxes don't pay for these things. Local property taxes and sales taxes pay for these things.

                                                  An an American expat living in Costa Rica, I hate having to pay taxes to a country that I don't benefit from whatsoever. Taxation without representation completely sucks.
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                                                  • The Kraken
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-25-11
                                                    • 29085

                                                    #26
                                                    Chili, i am aware of that butthe OP did not specify so I assume he means all taxes. Those were just some examples of things taxes pay for that.affect our every day life.

                                                    Bit even Federal taxes are important as they fund the Military, medicare, medicaid and social security. All pretty important in my mind.

                                                    The big scam is the fed charging interest to loan the US gov. monet and our tax money pays that interest.

                                                    OP does not want to live in a country where nobody pays taxes, he just doesnt know it.

                                                    Spelling sucks bc im on my phone.
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                                                    • Tully Mars 63
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-06-11
                                                      • 2750

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by chilidog
                                                      Your federal income taxes don't pay for these things. Local property taxes and sales taxes pay for these things.

                                                      An an American expat living in Costa Rica, I hate having to pay taxes to a country that I don't benefit from whatsoever. Taxation without representation completely sucks.
                                                      Where's a form you can fill out and after a few months they'll call you in for an interview. Wham, bam and gone man.
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                                                      • Tully Mars 63
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-06-11
                                                        • 2750

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                        Chili, i am aware of that butthe OP did not specify so I assume he means all taxes. Those were just some examples of things taxes pay for that.affect our every day life.

                                                        Bit even Federal taxes are important as they fund the Military, medicare, medicaid and social security. All pretty important in my mind.

                                                        The big scam is the fed charging interest to loan the US gov. monet and our tax money pays that interest.

                                                        OP does not want to live in a country where nobody pays taxes, he just doesnt know it.

                                                        Spelling sucks bc im on my phone.
                                                        There's not that many things that are solely local funded anymore. Federal grants pay for a part of many road, bridge, school etc... projects and programs. The real kicker is when you look at the states complaining the most about federal taxes they're the states getting more dollars back from the fed then they kick in.
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                                                        • YorkHunt
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-11-10
                                                          • 7496

                                                          #29
                                                          Not seeing this from a gamblers standpoint....

                                                          Allowing gay marriage only helps economies- These gays pay hella money for weddings and flamboyant parties. I have a couple of buddies who are gay and they spend money like its no tomorrow.

                                                          I do agree with the fact they should legalize gambling, the only thing is it may help the economy, but the homeless rate is for sure going to increase. Plus they would link gambling to your social, which would probably halt most housing complexes and apartments from allowing you to stay there raising your credit risk.

                                                          As far as prisons, Ive always thought if your in jail for 20+ yrs-life (or death row). They should just kill them off or use them for test studies for new medications. Why the **** are we paying for a dude who murdered 2-3 people to eat and survive?? Doesnt make sense. Or if a guy rapes little kids not only do you pay for his living, food, you pay for him to have extra security on him so he wont get raped.

                                                          Sick motherfukkn world
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