What happened to Boise St QB Kellen Moore?

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  • bettilimbroke999
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    • 02-04-08
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    #1
    What happened to Boise St QB Kellen Moore?
    This dude goes undrafted? He's the winningest QB in college football history and no one even wants to take a shot on him in any round of the draft?

    I tell ya if you aint 6'5 or taller (or run like Vick in the case of blacks) you're ****** at QB
  • thetrinity
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    • 01-25-11
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    #2
    i think detroit lions got him as a FA.
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    • bobby heenan
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      #3
      Originally posted by thetrinity
      i think detroit lions got him as a FA.
      they did....

      mixed reviews on him .....some believe hes a winner...and he did pretty well in a big game agaisnt va tech....others dont feel he has adequate arm strength and that he benefited from guys running wide open....he could hit alot of wide open guys running seams.....but that he wont be able to make nfl throws.....
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      • Darkside Magick
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        #4
        College football is like pee wee football to the nfl ......dude lucky to get free agent contract...
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        • tony_come
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          #5
          He's the next great qb in the nfl

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          • bobby heenan
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            #6
            Originally posted by Darkside Magick
            College football is like pee wee football to the nfl ......dude lucky to get free agent contract...
            nice avatar....classic album

            ya i agree....nobody thinks he can really drive the ball and get enough on it to make nfl throws.....some believe you can get by without that in the nfl and offset it with great timing.....but not enough believed in him to actually use a pick on him
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            • Br0nxer
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              • 03-25-11
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              #7
              What happened

              What happened is the guy could never play a down in the nfl

              Dont care whose practice squad hes on. He will never see the field in a regular season game

              Beating the living piss out of nevada or smu is a lot different then playing on sundays

              There are a thousand guys who were bmoc in college and broke all types of records who never got a sniff in the nfl
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              • bettilimbroke999
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                #8
                Just seems like 32 teams with like 8 picks apiece someone would've taken a shot on the winningest QB in college football history, I mean not even good enough for a 250th pick?
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                • Br0nxer
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                  Just seems like 32 teams with like 8 picks apiece someone would've taken a shot on the winningest QB in college football history, I mean not even good enough for a 250th pick?
                  Nope

                  For the most part these guys know what they are doing

                  If he was good enough he woulda got drafted.
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                  • bettilimbroke999
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Br0nxer
                    Nope

                    For the most part these guys know what they are doing

                    If he was good enough he woulda got drafted.
                    Well he got taken as a FA by the Lions anyway so I guess its the same as a 250th pick, in all honesty if you want a chance to prove yourself in the NFL backin up Stafford who only plays about half the games due to injuries is a pretty good opportunity
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                    • thetrinity
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                      #11
                      bronxers right, if anyone thought he had a prayer he would have got drafted. no one thinks hes good enough to be a third string qb.
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                      • Sam Odom
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                        #12
                        guy is barely 5' 11" - the days of fran tarkenton are long over in the NFL
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                        • Darkside Magick
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                          #13
                          Will get cut in training camp.........corners and safeties too good.......pick six with limp noodle arm
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                          • HoulihansTX
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                            #14
                            If Patriots did not draft Tom Brady, he would have probably been an undrafted FA. People act like the Patriots are some geniuses for taking him in the 6th round. 5th, 6th, so on rounds are not even guaranteed contracts.

                            If Colt McCoy, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Senaca Wallace, (Fill in blank with weak arm shitty QB) are making starts, then Moore should have his chance in the league
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                            • bobby heenan
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                              If Patriots did not draft Tom Brady, he would have probably been an undrafted FA. People act like the Patriots are some geniuses for taking him in the 6th round. 5th, 6th, so on rounds are not even guaranteed contracts.

                              If Colt McCoy, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Senaca Wallace, (Fill in blank with weak arm shitty QB) are making starts, then Moore should have his chance in the league
                              i dont know who acts like the patriots are geniuses for drafting tom...i mean....the guys who did draft him sure dont....scott pioli said he keeps a framed picture of dave stachelski on his desk to remind him that if he was so smart he would have taken brady before stachelski......who was a TE from boise st ironically
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                              • Darkside Magick
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                                #16
                                But Brady never had a noodle arm....still don't know how he fell to the 6th round..Brady also 6'4"....way different than the midget who was Qb for my browns
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                                • yisman
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                  This dude goes undrafted? He's the winningest QB in college football history and no one even wants to take a shot on him in any round of the draft?

                                  I tell ya if you aint 6'5 or taller (or run like Vick in the case of blacks) you're ****** at QB
                                  more like 6'2. Plenty of good QBs shorter than 6'5.

                                  Teams just prefer guys 6'2 who can see downfield better.

                                  You also see this with pitchers.
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                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                  • TheMoneyShot
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                                    #18
                                    That fuking Kellen... how games did that dic weed cost me in football? Good. Hope he never plays in the NFL. Fuking nerd.
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                                    • thetrinity
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                                      #19
                                      im glad someone brought up brady, it was more the fact he got jerked around at michigan then anything why he went so late. he was constantly battling drew henson for playing time.
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                                      • Sunde91
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                                        #20
                                        Graham Harrell, Case Keenum
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                                        • bobby heenan
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by thetrinity
                                          im glad someone brought up brady, it was more the fact he got jerked around at michigan then anything why he went so late. he was constantly battling drew henson for playing time.
                                          ...ya brady started every game...but he was always looking over his shoulder....henson was one of the biggest recruits in michigan history.....the number 1 player in his class and was supposed to have the tools brady didnt have
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                                          • TheMoneyShot
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                                            #22
                                            No one knew Brady's intelligence and mind for the game. The kid was practically born with it... But he just needed someone to give him a chance.
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                                            • Bcatswin
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                                              #23
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                                              • brahmabull117
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                                                #24
                                                I was a big fan of Kellen Moore but there's not much he does that translates to the NFL


                                                Too short
                                                No Athleticism
                                                No Arm Strength
                                                Lefty thrower (Usually an undesirable trait)
                                                Ugly mechanics under pressure


                                                He dominated at Boise because he played with a fantastic offensive line and faced mediocre cornerbacks many times. He doesn't have the arm strength to get the ball into tight NFL windows and he's gonna struggle under pressure (which he always did)


                                                College record means absolutely nothing really
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                                                • Br0nxer
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                                                  #25
                                                  Theres somebody like kurt warner

                                                  Stocking shelves to superbowl mvp but thats one in a billion

                                                  Mega millions shit

                                                  Guy just isnt good enough
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                                                  • bobby heenan
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                    No one knew Brady's intelligence and mind for the game. The kid was practically born with it... But he just needed someone to give him a chance.
                                                    agreed.....i think most underestimated the value of desire to succeed and work ethic too

                                                    he almost left michigan too.....the guy was like 5th on the depth chart when he arrived.....

                                                    i think the funny thing is too...most consider his rise in the nfl fate....because of the bledsoe injury....but people in the organization and hardcore patriot fans know the move was coming sooner or later.....belichick was becoming increasingly annoyed with bledsoe and his style...his penchant for trying to make big throws downfield instead of trying to manage the game.....bledsoe had just signed a big deal...so there was some pressure early for belichick to keep bledsoe starting....but eventuall, if they werent winning, he was going to tell kraft he was gonna make a change or he could fire him
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                                                    • Sam Odom
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                                                      #27
                                                      Someone should do this... Research the number of completions Moore had at B.State where the Receiver was open without a defender within >5yds (meaning wide ass open)

                                                      IMO - would be a very high % compared to QBs playing in a real conference
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                                                      • yisman
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bobby heenan
                                                        ...ya brady started every game...but he was always looking over his shoulder....henson was one of the biggest recruits in michigan history.....the number 1 player in his class and was supposed to have the tools brady didnt have
                                                        Started every game? He was a backup for two years. He only played two seasons. So yes, during those seasons he started every game, but that doesn't mean much compared to someone like Kellen Moore.

                                                        When he got there, he was actually seventh (!) on the depth chart.
                                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                        [/quote]

                                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                        • bobby heenan
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by yisman
                                                          Started every game? He was a backup for two years. He only played two seasons. So yes, during those seasons he started every game, but that doesn't mean much compared to someone like Kellen Moore.

                                                          When he got there, he was actually seventh (!) on the depth chart.
                                                          i was talking about starting every game while both he and henson were there
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                                                          • TheMoneyShot
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by yisman
                                                            Started every game? He was a backup for two years. He only played two seasons. So yes, during those seasons he started every game, but that doesn't mean much compared to someone like Kellen Moore.

                                                            When he got there, he was actually seventh (!) on the depth chart.
                                                            I will give Moore some credit... you know how a QB sometimes misses a progression? Sometimes players get wide open on several plays... but the QB is always in a pressure situation and never gets to that read. Did Moore ever miss a guy who was wide open? I never heard an announcer say... OMG That guy was wide open and Moore couldn't find him! That's where Moore has some talent... (or perhaps the offensive line gave him this talent)... because he never missed a Wide Open Player. Hope someone lynches him real soon though...
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                                                            • bobby heenan
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              I will give Moore some credit... you know how a QB sometimes misses a progression? Sometimes players get wide open on several plays... but the QB is always in a pressure situation and never gets to that read. Did Moore ever miss a guy who was wide open? I never heard an announcer say... OMG That guy was wide open and Moore couldn't find him! That's where Moore has some talent... (or perhaps the offensive line gave him this talent)... because he never missed a Wide Open Player. Hope someone lynches him real soon though...
                                                              agreed....he was always able to find the guys that were free...and seemingly wide open...especially down the middle of the field....but thats where the questions come up about him....is he big enough to hold up against an nfl rush....does he have the footwork neccessary to move in the pocket...the natural feel for a pass rush....the ability to see over a pass rush.....the ability to squeeze a ball in there in the face of a pass rush

                                                              brady has some of the best footwork ive seen from a qb...and a great natural feel for a pass rush
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                                                              • Sam Odom
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

                                                                I will give Moore some credit... you know how a QB sometimes misses a progression? Sometimes players get wide open on several plays... but the QB is always in a pressure situation and never gets to that read. Did Moore ever miss a guy who was wide open? I never heard an announcer say... OMG That guy was wide open and Moore couldn't find him! That's where Moore has some talent... (or perhaps the offensive line gave him this talent)... because he never missed a Wide Open Player. Hope someone lynches him real soon though...

                                                                Please...

                                                                The defenses he faced in most part were awful... pitiful !!

                                                                Just imagine is Jordan Jefferson (black kid at LSU) had been B.State QB ?!! His #s would had been better ALL A ROUND - And he was a C grade SEC QB. Jordan Jefferson would have been drafted if he had played at B.State
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                                                                • Darkside Magick
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                  Please...

                                                                  The defenses he faced in most part were awful... pitiful !!

                                                                  Just imagine is Jordan Jefferson (black kid at LSU) had been B.State QB ?!! His #s would had been better ALL A ROUND - And he was a C grade SEC QB. Jordan Jefferson would have been drafted if he had played at B.State
                                                                  This. All day,......Alabama expose Jefferson.....sec football is close to the nfl you can get
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                                                                  • brahmabull117
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                    Please...

                                                                    The defenses he faced in most part were awful... pitiful !!

                                                                    Just imagine is Jordan Jefferson (black kid at LSU) had been B.State QB ?!! His #s would had been better ALL A ROUND - And he was a C grade SEC QB. Jordan Jefferson would have been drafted if he had played at B.State


                                                                    This isn't true. Look at Jefferson's passing numbers against Georgia and Kellen's passing numbers against Georgia


                                                                    Moore has fantastic accuracy/anticipation/understanding of the game which works beautifully in college. The problem is that he just doesn't have enough velocity to get the ball into tight NFL windows
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                                                                    • HoulihansTX
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Yep playing QB in the SEC = start status in the NFL. Rex Grossman/Jamarcus Russell/Greg McElroy.

                                                                      Please continue to type useless info fellas. Needed a good lunchtime laugh.
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