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  • gm2022
    SBR MVP
    • 02-28-08
    • 4128

    #36
    Originally posted by ryanXL977
    wake made what, 6 turnovers last game? that has nothing to do with today. you cannot predict turnovers on a game to game basis
    True But Clemson has had 2 turnovers in 4 games and 3 turnovers in the other game! 5 INT 6 FUMBLES, hopefully its just not redzone or turnovers that turn into pts!
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    • Doc JS
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-15-06
      • 6885

      #37
      It's a no play for me...anyone who thinks they have any idea which Clemson team will show up is just kidding themselves...

      FWIW

      Wake has been very good on Thursday nights.

      Clemson has been very bad on Thursday nights.

      Tommy is 7-2 vs. Wake...

      GL to all...I'm just watching...

      Doc
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      • Dbldown11
        SBR MVP
        • 08-17-06
        • 3605

        #38
        Originally posted by Doc JS
        It's a no play for me...anyone who thinks they have any idea which Clemson team will show up is just kidding themselves...

        FWIW

        Wake has been very good on Thursday nights.

        Clemson has been very bad on Thursday nights.

        Tommy is 7-2 vs. Wake...

        GL to all...I'm just watching...

        Doc


        The same could be said about all games..nobody KNOWS what's going to happen, it's all educated guesses
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        • Doc JS
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          • 09-15-06
          • 6885

          #39
          Originally posted by Dbldown11
          The same could be said about all games..nobody KNOWS what's going to happen, it's all educated guesses
          OKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK,
          Anyone who thinks they have an educated guess about which Clemson team will show up is kidding themselves...

          Happy now???

          Doc
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          • Dbldown11
            SBR MVP
            • 08-17-06
            • 3605

            #40
            no because I have a pretty good educated guess that Clemson is going to win this game straight up....And I do not believe that I am kidding myself haha
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            • awhitejackson
              SBR MVP
              • 11-15-07
              • 2265

              #41
              The only thing Im looking at is Clemson's well balanced offense versus Wake Forest's pass heavy offense....Usually the former trumps the latter when two teams are otherwise evenly matched..

              Wake Forest's rushing game is atrocious.....Clem (+ whatever) for me .....GL all
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              • Doc JS
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-15-06
                • 6885

                #42
                Originally posted by Dbldown11
                no because I have a pretty good educated guess that Clemson is going to win this game straight up....And I do not believe that I am kidding myself haha
                If the Clemson team that played the first half against Maryland shows up, Clemson wins easily.

                If the Clemson team that played the second half against Maryland shows up, Wake Forest wins easily.

                Now, since I'm not betting and don't have a dog in the fight, I hope you win your bet.

                But please enlighten us as to how you have arrived at your "educated guess" about which Clemson team will show up when even Tommy Bowden doesn't know what he's going to get from week to week or half to half???

                Doc
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                • Dbldown11
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-17-06
                  • 3605

                  #43
                  Both teams are coming off a bye week, and both teams are going to be ready to play. With both teams prepared, Clemson is the better team, they will run all over Wake Forest, they will hold onto the ball in this game, and their defense will shut Wake down for the most part. Now obviously these are all my opinions, so the opposite of everything I just said could happen haha....Lets just hope that's not the case
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                  • bosterosoy
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 09-02-08
                    • 156

                    #44
                    Clemson's defense is talented and fast. Wake has a horrible line and a non existent running game. I agree that each game is independent of the one before it, but the fact that Wake's QB could not read Navy's D is an issue.

                    Clemson is fast and will run all over Wake's D, IMO.

                    BOL
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                    • AMBlai01
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-16-08
                      • 5882

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Dbldown11
                      Both teams are coming off a bye week, and both teams are going to be ready to play. With both teams prepared, Clemson is the better team, they will run all over Wake Forest, they will hold onto the ball in this game, and their defense will shut Wake down for the most part. Now obviously these are all my opinions, so the opposite of everything I just said could happen haha....Lets just hope that's not the case
                      Clemson does generally well when they have a lot of time to prepare for an opponent right? Just look what they did against Alabama when they were ranked 8th in the country and had all off season to prepare for them. Granted Alabama is better than anyone expected but they shouldn't have beaten up on Clemson that bad. Clemson doesn't do well when they sit around historically....
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                      • mmike032
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-11-08
                        • 8905

                        #46
                        Its now a pick at Betjam. lots of Clemson backers I presume
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                        • Dbldown11
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-17-06
                          • 3605

                          #47
                          Originally posted by AMBlai01
                          Clemson does generally well when they have a lot of time to prepare for an opponent right? Just look what they did against Alabama when they were ranked 8th in the country and had all off season to prepare for them. Granted Alabama is better than anyone expected but they shouldn't have beaten up on Clemson that bad. Clemson doesn't do well when they sit around historically....
                          Alabama is one of the best if not the best team in the country....and they were out to show it that game as big dogs to clemson. Clemson is a better team, Wake Forsest just will not be able to score enough points to get this win. Anyone recall the Florida St game????
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                          • awhitejackson
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-15-07
                            • 2265

                            #48
                            Originally posted by mmike032
                            Its now a pick at Betjam. lots of Clemson backers I presume
                            Clemson getting 55% of the bets (against the spread) so far.... This is from a 31,000 sample size so this will not change much if at all....
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                            • Aces
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-22-05
                              • 1278

                              #49
                              I think this is the key. Courtesy of ESPN

                              At 6-4, Clemson WR Aaron Kelly is substantially taller than Wake CBs Alphonso Smith (5-9) and Brandon Ghee (6-0) and he should come down with any jump balls Harper throws in his direction. No. 2 WR Jacoby Ford has rare top-end speed and No. 3 Tyler Grisham is capable of getting open working against nickel back Kerry Major. In addition, Wake Forest hasn't had much success getting to the quarterback so the receivers should have time to separate from coverage and Harper should have time to find them

                              I'm trying hard to play Wake but I'm leaning toward Clemson.
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                              • xyzky
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-23-07
                                • 1577

                                #50
                                Sure has been a ton of movement on this game.
                                Let's Go Clemson +3!!
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                                • gm2022
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-28-08
                                  • 4128

                                  #51
                                  Pk em now boys, glad I got +115 yesterday!
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                                  • ryanXL977
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-24-08
                                    • 20615

                                    #52
                                    why the **** is the line moving so much
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                                    • gm2022
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-28-08
                                      • 4128

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                      why the **** is the line moving so much
                                      Weather would be my say!
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #54
                                        wow
                                        i got it at +120
                                        nice
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                                        • daneblazer
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 09-14-08
                                          • 27862

                                          #55
                                          My local line is Clemson -1 now.
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                                          • xyzky
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-23-07
                                            • 1577

                                            #56
                                            I'm seeing Clemson at -1 now. It might be time to try and middle this freakin game now!!
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                                            • gm2022
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-28-08
                                              • 4128

                                              #57
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                                              • daneblazer
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-14-08
                                                • 27862

                                                #58
                                                I live in the triangle...there's been a chance of rain all day and it hasn't rained a drop
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                                                • gm2022
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                                                  • 02-28-08
                                                  • 4128

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                  I live in the triangle...there's been a chance of rain all day and it hasn't rained a drop
                                                  well fk me
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                                                  • JERICHO_JACK
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 11-24-07
                                                    • 15

                                                    #60
                                                    ckeck line dudes -----clemson-1
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                                                    • teaserpleaser
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                                                      • 08-14-08
                                                      • 26015

                                                      #61
                                                      -1.5 at 5dimes ML -120...Now I dont feel so bad about getting it at +115, it was +130 at one time.
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                                                      • Jayy
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 10-07-08
                                                        • 203

                                                        #62
                                                        lucky i got clemson +2.5, now i know its a win
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                                                        • xyzky
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-23-07
                                                          • 1577

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Jayy
                                                          lucky i got clemson +2.5, now i know its a win
                                                          Well at least you didnt say L**K!!?? What the crap man?
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388208

                                                            #64
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                                                            • TPowell
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-21-08
                                                              • 18842

                                                              #65
                                                              still on Wake Forest, I'm not jumping ships now. Late money doesnt really bother me. Early money on the other hand......
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                                                              • teaserpleaser
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                                                                • 08-14-08
                                                                • 26015

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Jayy
                                                                lucky i got clemson +2.5, now i know its a win
                                                                when RyanXL sees this i think hes going to Flip he has the clemson ML as well
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                                                                • masr
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-20-07
                                                                  • 4770

                                                                  #67
                                                                  What a pt swing...WF -2.5 this morn...now WF + 1.5...
                                                                  I dont think line makers/Books are going to let public hit 86% ML...
                                                                  Bought the +1.5 Going W/ Demon Deacons +3
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                                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                                    • 20615

                                                                    #68
                                                                    thats an incredible amount of movement in a few hrs
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                                                                    • diehardfan
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                                      • 228

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Wake has one of the best kickers (punter/place kicker) in the country, Sam Swank. He injured a quad in practice this week and his backup is a redshirt frosh who has yet to kick in a live game. I think that's why the line moved. Here's the story:


                                                                      I'm going with Clemson.
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                                                                      • xyzky
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-23-07
                                                                        • 1577

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                                                                        when RyanXL sees this i think hes going to Flip he has the clemson ML as well
                                                                        Exactly, why on earth do people say crap like this?
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