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Originally posted by dlunc3
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Did you miss the post I quoted? He criticized Lebron for leaving Cleveland (even tbough Kobe tried to leave LA) and used the rings excuse, even though Kobe was Robin to Shaq's Batman. I'm not saying players can't/shouldn't play where and with who they want, I'm saying its very hypocritical to say Lebron sucks for those things, but Kobe is better even tho Kobe did the same (or at least tried)Originally posted by iQonYour point? Hakeem demanded a trade, shall we strip the 2 championships from his legacy?
Oh, and let's not forget this guy!
No one can win on their own. Takes a team and usually 2+ stars to get a ring. Kobe fans just tend to ignore his "faults" while attacking LebronComment -
It wasnt Kobe it was Gasol who choked. Gasol had a wide open shot that at worse was a 7 foot jumper with no one in his face. At best he should have drove to the bucket and either dunked it or drew a foul. Jesus Christ what do u want Kobe to do? No one on his team steps up and that is clear after watching Gasol pass a wide open look up only to turn the ball over in crunch time. I mean look at Bynum he quit in the 4th. He didnt try and get open, and gave up on the glass by not rebounding. Yeah kobe jackes up 30 shots a game and most are contested bcuz he has too. No one elsedoes shit. Gasol has been a no show this series. Bynum if ur lucky u can get 3 qtrs from him b4 he gives up. Artest for some reason only shots 3pt buckets no his post play is non existent. Sessions for some reason has stoped driving to the bucket since the playoffs have started. And the rest of the team isnt even worth talking about. Sso what should Kobe do?
Sincerly Kobe. i mean unbias fan.Comment -
Originally posted by TheBack
gasol is not the reason they lost.
kobe is jacking up shots because thats WHAT HE WANTS TO DO
if 5 defenders were on kobe, he will still shoot over them
the lakers will go as far as gasol and bynum will not them, not kobe jacking up shots with 5 defenders in his faceComment -
Everybody knows the difference between the two. who wants the ball at the end of game and who passes it like a hot potato?Comment -
Originally posted by dlunc3
my reference to being scared is about lebron many more times deferring to teammates like wade or chalmers when he is suppose to be the leader of the team (sure being a leader might mean you make the right play, like pass to someone else). BUT time and time again lebron has done this, even at the all star game this year, he passed the ball over and over in the last remaining seconds, final play he inbounded the ball leaving it to carmelo or wade to take the game winning or tying shot. what does that spell out to you? that says to me lebron is so scared to put the game in his hands when he is clearly putting up greater numbers than carmelo or wade or pretty much anyone else on the east side.
lebron puts up greater numbers than kobe in many cases but the point here is when the game is on the line too often lebron defers as opposed to kobe, to me that conveys lebron is scared of
A) failure? ie missing game tying or game winning shot
B) ruining his great percentages?
jordan wouldnt pass up opportunity to tie or win the game, success or fail (fearless), kobe emulates or is similar in that respect (fearless), lebron isn't for the most part in his career so far (but he's putting up undeniably great numbers but fearful when he shouldn't be...)Comment -
ok, he has done that, what, 4 or 5 times in the playoffs? what about the 50 times he has won the game for his team in the playoffs and taken over? MANY more times he has succeeded in taking over in crunch time then he has failedOriginally posted by pepero428Comment -
when kobe was lebrons age, he had disappeared just as many times as lebron has.. yet had nowhere near the individual playoff success lebron has had
see 2004 nba finals or 2006 vs phxComment -
Originally posted by dlunc3
2006 playoffs, kobe that year 7th seed, and the result isn't too surprising, that team had lamar odom, smush parker (can't even find his nba info page), kwame brown (bust), and a whole bunch of other players that do not begin to compare to the supporting cast lebron had in cleveland, I do not know what went through kobe's head during game 7 but it wouldn't be far-fetched to say it was to show he cannot win it by himself (no one can, that's why lebron joined wade and bosh) mj had help rodman and pippen etc, nash had barbosa, marion and other players who continue to be solid contributors to the teams they are on now.
2004 nba finals what about it? the heavily favored lakers lost to detroit, was it kobe's team? general consensus is lakers were shaq's team being in his prime and the most dominating center in some time, or are you trying to point out lebron put up greater #'s?
if that's the case, you don't need to continue to try to do that cause I already know lebron puts up greater #'s than kobe in many cases, in terms of individual playoff success
ya lebron #'s > kobe
but kobe rings (the prime goal of playoffs...?) > lebron empty fingers (sure kobe had tremendous help from shaq and gasol but those 2 didn't win championships when they were alone)
going to be tough for lebron cause durantula will be around if they somehow beat pacers, kobe's career will soon be overComment -
it has nothing to do with wins or losses.. it has to do with the fact that kobe disappears in those games, the same thing lebron gets hated on forOriginally posted by pepero428
you really wanna talk about kobes lack of surrounding cast? really? put him in cleveland he has 0 titles as we speak... the ring argument is absurd. If lebron is in LA he has more like 7+ rings bc he never woulda ran out of shaq... comparing rings is ridiculous as it is so dependent on your teamatesComment -
the disappearance your talking about I guess it depends what you define it as, I rarely if ever see kobe inbounding the ball for the final play or using himself as a decoy cause he has zero intention of shooting the final shot, lebron i would make a case does this type of "disappearance" maybe more frequently so people might get irritated when he puts up great #'s in the 4th but then pulls the disappearing act kind of like you wrote a recipe for some awesome dish but then its just there, not going to make it.Originally posted by dlunc3
the talk about lack of surrounding cast was in reference to him quitting in game 7, nash had so much help from his teammates, and kobe passed the ball to his teammates in game 7 to get help, no help, do it over and over it will A) show kobe quit B) gave his teammates chance to help him out and they let him down
no one is denying that lebron wouldn't have had different success if he had shaq, but if you think smush parker and kwame compares to vajejo or mo williams I think your mistaken
crazy performance today by lebron, wonder how pacers will respond in next gameComment -
Guys on the internet calling out some of the greatest athletes in the world. You're all legends in your own minds.Comment -
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