Is Lebron the biggest choker in the game??

Pauulzcappin · 05-15-12, 09:34 PM

Is he going to have an elbow injury which will require surgery during a decisive game on the playoffs?

rm18 · 05-15-12, 09:35 PM

Antawn Jamison by far

ChalkyDog · 05-15-12, 09:36 PM

Wade.

This game was all Wade

Scorpion · 05-15-12, 09:43 PM

I dont want to be Lebron tonight

I bet he is thinking what if I dont win it this year either, fukk me

jjgold · 05-16-12, 05:04 AM

Lebron hits a lot of big shots but he gets tight at very critical parts of the game

Easy-Rider 66 · 05-16-12, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Lebron hits a lot of big shots but he gets tight at very critical parts of the game

tunaguitar76 · 05-16-12, 06:26 AM

he should really go to a team with more talent, he could finally win a championship

YOUNGBUCK · 05-16-12, 06:38 AM

Everyone is so dumb he was doubled and passed he plays the game how ur supposed to instead of jacking like Kobe.... Kobe hit a few and has missed a ton lebron should just pull up from halfcourt if he makes one u guys will love him

BigDeem5 · 05-16-12, 08:57 AM

Wade blows, why do you think LeBron was 9-2 w/o him this year?

SparJMU · 05-16-12, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by YOUNGBUCK

Everyone is so dumb he was doubled and passed he plays the game how ur supposed to instead of jacking like Kobe.... Kobe hit a few and has missed a ton lebron should just pull up from halfcourt if he makes one u guys will love him

1) He missed two enormous free throws. TWO. The definition of choking is to fail to accomplish something that you normally accomplish with ease. If he missed one of those free throws, that's OK, no one is perfect. Missing both means he completely choked.

2) It is one thing to defer to a wide open teammate. It is an entirely different thing to defer to a covered teammate simply because you don't want the ball. During that Utah game mid season Lebron deferred to a wide open Udonis Haslem because Haslem's man was double teaming him. Good for Lebron. He made the correct pass against a double team. Last night in the deciding possession he had single coverage. He deferred once to Battier who was covered in the corner. Then he deferred again to Wade. LEBRON WAS NOT DOUBLED. HE DEFERRED. He did the exact same thing constantly against Dallas in the 4th quarter last year. Very simply, you are dead wrong.

William Walters · 05-16-12, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by YOUNGBUCK

Everyone is so dumb he was doubled and passed he plays the game how ur supposed to instead of jacking like Kobe.... Kobe hit a few and has missed a ton lebron should just pull up from halfcourt if he makes one u guys will love him

Kobe wants the ball..............because he's got big balls to match his big talent.

LeBron is cowardly late in games.

Scorpion · 05-16-12, 10:02 AM

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It's almost time. Stephen A and I are about throw down on who choked worst last night: the 3-time MVP or DWade. 10am Eastern, ESPN2.

jsmithj88 · 05-16-12, 10:06 AM

i understand y people call lebron a choker yet no1 says anything about wade?
wade is supposed to be the closer ..... how many game winners has he hit?

Scorpion · 05-16-12, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by jsmithj88

i understand y people call lebron a choker yet no1 says anything about wade?
wade is supposed to be the closer ..... how many game winners has he hit?

Lebron is supposed to be the closer not Wade
Lebron is the MVP and their best player not Wade, Battier, or Chalmbers
Lebron is a pussy, how about the 2 FTs he missed with the game on the line? Is that Wades fault too?

polishkielbasa10 · 05-16-12, 10:19 AM

You don't miss %100 of the shots you don't take

jsmithj88 · 05-16-12, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Scorpion

Lebron is supposed to be the closer not Wade
Lebron is the MVP and their best player not Wade, Battier, or Chalmbers
Lebron is a pussy, how about the 2 FTs he missed with the game on the line? Is that Wades fault too?

isnt that wades job?
wade almost always takes the last shot doesnt he?
half the threads on the heat are about lebron passing to wade and standing in the corner
wade is the closer, i dont see how thats in dispute ...............

did lebron choke last nite, he sure did, and i knew he would
but y is no1 talking about wade missing a wide open layup?
im pretty sure if wade missed 2 FTs and lebron missed the layup, the topic would be lebron choked on the layup

speaker · 05-16-12, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by SparJMU

1) He missed two enormous free throws. TWO. The definition of choking is to fail to accomplish something that you normally accomplish with ease. If he missed one of those free throws, that's OK, no one is perfect. Missing both means he completely choked.

2) It is one thing to defer to a wide open teammate. It is an entirely different thing to defer to a covered teammate simply because you don't want the ball. During that Utah game mid season Lebron deferred to a wide open Udonis Haslem because Haslem's man was double teaming him. Good for Lebron. He made the correct pass against a double team. Last night in the deciding possession he had single coverage. He deferred once to Battier who was covered in the corner. Then he deferred again to Wade. LEBRON WAS NOT DOUBLED. HE DEFERRED. He did the exact same thing constantly against Dallas in the 4th quarter last year. Very simply, you are dead wrong.

Agreed on both points.

Scorpion · 05-16-12, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by jsmithj88

did lebron choke last nite, he sure did, and i knew he would
but y is no1 talking about wade missing a wide open layup?
im pretty sure if wade missed 2 FTs and lebron missed the layup, the topic would be lebron choked on the layup

maybe because many people think Lebron is an asshole, a big asshole

watch this video
dont you think he is a fukking asshole??

crustyme · 05-16-12, 11:58 AM

coffee is for closers.

lebrick can have pedialyte.

sweep · 05-16-12, 11:59 AM

This thread is just like :

zoo youk · 05-16-12, 12:01 PM

as Shaq said last night on the post game, on the last play of the game when Bron passed the ball to Battier, the play was broken, Bron got the ball back, the rule is when the play is broken you let your abilities take over, Lebron should have put his head down and drove to the hole but no he passed it off to D Wayde.

a lot of the blame goes to Spoelstra as well. You have the most talented player on the planet and he doesn't draw up good enough plays at the end of the game to put Lebron in position to win the games.

jjgold · 05-16-12, 12:21 PM

Lebron does not use his massive body enough

He does not go inside enough
He would be unstoppable

Scorpion · 05-16-12, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by zoo youk

a lot of the blame goes to Spoelstra as well. You have the most talented player on the planet and he doesn't draw up good enough plays at the end of the game to put Lebron in position to win the games.

Its not Spoelstra fault, LeChoke does not want the balll, cant make a game winning basket 2- 21 last 2 years

antifoil · 05-16-12, 07:47 PM

kobe has been as bigger choker as lebron. i actually look at clutch time stats.

the best players in last second that have taken a fair amount of shots is carmelo and dirk. kobe is actually league average. he just takes so many more it looks like he is good. it is called confirmation bias.

jsmithj88 · 05-16-12, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by antifoil

kobe has been as bigger choker as lebron. i actually look at clutch time stats.

the best players in last second that have taken a fair amount of shots is carmelo and dirk. kobe is actually league average. he just takes so many more it looks like he is good. it is called confirmation bias.

i dunno if any1 can sit here and actually call lebron clutch
but technically u are right

Bones33 · 05-16-12, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by jsmithj88

i understand y people call lebron a choker yet no1 says anything about wade?
wade is supposed to be the closer ..... how many game winners has he hit?

D wade carried his team in the finals before and won a championship...thats the difference.

dlunc3 · 05-16-12, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by William Walters

Kobe wants the ball..............because he's got big balls to match his big talent.

LeBron is cowardly late in games.

your boy kobe cost LA a game they had no business losing tonight

thetrinity · 05-16-12, 11:26 PM

Kobes was the goat tonite

dilojanj · 05-16-12, 11:54 PM

Kobe !!!

MUHerd37 · 05-17-12, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Lebron does not use his massive body enough

He does not go inside enough
He would be unstoppable

Agreed. 6'9" 250lb pussy.

dlunc3 · 05-17-12, 12:32 AM

Kobe Bryant vs. Lebron James: Game Winning Shots

http://chasing23.com/kobe-bryant-vs-lebron-james-game-winning-shots/

dlunc3 · 05-17-12, 12:32 AM

The truth about Kobe Bryant in crunch time

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-about-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time

Ask pundits. Ask general managers. Ask players. Ask almost anybody.Who would you like to have take the last shot with the game on the line?Kobe Bryant wins by a country mile.

jsmithj88 · 05-17-12, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Bones33

D wade carried his team in the finals before and won a championship...thats the difference.

so wade didnt choke on that WIDE OPEN layup?
people dont choke anymore after they win a title ..... is that wat ur saying?

CallMeChip · 05-17-12, 03:57 AM

People calling out LeBron

28pts, 9 boards(4 off), 5 assists, and 6 steals. That's hall of fame numbers and the guy practically does it on a regular basis. Any coach would kill, I'm talking mass murder genocide of babies, to have a player like that, clutch shots or not. Clutch don't mean shit without a player like this to get you within a close enough margin for said clutch shot to mean anything. Wasn't LeBron's call, blame Spoelstra for the choke, he designed the play with Chalmers in mind

. As for the free throws, it happens, he had a shit night from the line and arc, take a look at Wade all series against Knicks 17-30 ftm.

Understand that the Big 3 are this whole team, it's an experiment, they have no other players with any amount of discernible talent, to say they choke is ridiculous compared to a team that plays as a 5 man team not 2 guys and 3 fukkin retarded monkeys(sans Bosh).