How good is the prick?

[Cheme82]

Does anybody know what kind of percentage has he hit in previous years? How about this year so far? Thanks.

[bigboydan]

About 12% give or take is a good estimated assessment sir. Another words... He can't pick for nothing.

[accuscoresucks]

About 12% give or take is a good estimated assessment sir. Another words... He can't pick for nothing.

you forgot to mention the local contract with the brew ha wharehouse,he gets free cases to throw games + impared hanicapping doesnt count

[The Prick]

BGD i hope ya didn't strain yer big ol' water head with all that mathematical cypherin. i get 'em right when i need to

[Cheme82]

So most of the players beat him then? I thought he was some sort of sharp capper that was really hard to beat.

[bigboydan]

heck no sir. ThePrick can't even pick his nose much less a football game. I mean just checkout my exclusive report on him.

[hawk 5]

not good enough

[Mudcat]

I don't have any long-term stats but my impression has been:

The Prick is pretty good.

I feel pretty sure that if you had followed every play he has used in the contest over the years, you would be up $$$.

But I wouldn't absolutely swear to it. I remember he had a very tough stretch in year 1 in particular.

I would be curious as to his overall record.

[konck]

I think last year he was 1 or 2 over

[astro61200]

I don't have any long-term stats but my impression has been:

The Prick is pretty good.

I feel pretty sure that if you had followed every play he has used in the contest over the years, you would be up $$$.

But I wouldn't absolutely swear to it. I remember he had a very tough stretch in year 1 in particular.

I would be curious as to his overall record.

Last year, including juice, if you followed his picks you would have been down, not down a lot but still down.. there are much better options to follow in these contests if you want to make some money siding with people's picks

[jon13009]

2007 Final results

I think last year he was 1 or 2 over

Yes,
The Prick was +2 in points for the year in 2007: (31-28-1) - That is 52% ATS (not too bad.)
I don't like the Prick, but he has his moments. So far he has been a bit cold with his picks, but watch out when he does get hot because it may happen when you least expect it.



You will notice though, the Prick was forced to play every week (obviously), and those at the top were a bit selective about the weeks they played because the final season ending winners were 15 or so places - not just 3. (13 weeks was the minimum required, I believe, and once you reached the minimum you didn't want to slide backwards. The Prick was forced to pick during the 16th and 17th weeks, perhaps the hardest weeks to make NFL picks.)

This year, each week is worth a whole lot more (but the 5x rollover is a pain the the $%#$ since SBR just mailed us checks last year for winning), and this year's season ending prizes are not as worthwhile to chase - unless you are at the very top. Thus, most of us should be playing every week this year.

Most of last year's top contestants (with the exception of Doc) are struggling this year, so what works one year, may not work the next....

Last year, post counts were a factor in determining winner placings. With that element out, there is no more post "padding" going around this year by the contestants (for better - or for worse.)

Also, this may give you an idea of how many points might be required to win the season ending prize as well....

Finally, this year, those in the money are actually rooting for the Prick to make some picks and shorten the winner's pool. Last year, every weekly winner got the same amount, and I have a feeling that some people are actually pissed that the Prick is not making enough good picks (versus stinking outright) this year and handing everyone a few extra dollars each week.

Don't get me wrong, I like getting about $40 to $80 in 5x rollover money each week, but IMO, beating the prick by scoring (-1) points and earning $10 or so because the prick went (-3, or worse -5) just doesn't feel right.

Didn't you have to go 4-0 AND beat the prick to win the $100 weekly prize last year? Somehow, there was more of a sense of accomplishment if you won money last year since the contest was (or seemed) harder. A stupid idea perhaps (winning a few bucks is better than nothing), but I'm just putting it out there because the Prick really has to go +3 or better for the +5's to make some serious $$$$ (as in week 1.)

Ironically, I though the new account requirement was going to be bad for the contest this year (and the smaller contestant pool is a reflection of that,) but it worked out well because there is a much smaller winning pool to distribute the $5000 weekly prize.

I don't even want to think about how diluted the weekly prize money winnings would be if we had as many contestants as last year.

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Otherwise, the software is great, and the SBR staff is doing a great job with the BTP contest this year. Keep it up guys.

[Mudcat]

I'd be interested to see his record for the other years.

[slacker00]

The prick holds back his best picks from the contest, otherwise no bookie would take his action on his "real" bets. Nobody wants the books to know you can hit 60%, you'd get frozen out of every major book. Prick is smart, except when it comes to whores and liquor.

[SBR_John]

As I recall The Prick was a winner the last two years and the first was a break even. The format was pretty tough in previous years having him to post his plays on Tuesday and then letting all the players hit Tuesdays lines on Saturday. He still beat 80% of the contest players. This year its a more level field so we shall see.

[Mudcat]

80% sounds a bit high to me. That would surprise me.

Here's a broader question: are the full results from all the previous BTP's available? Apart from checking what The Prick has been up to, I am curious what my record is over all of them. It could settle an argument.

I started trying to find them using the search function but was unsuccessful.

[jjgold]

Guys that do not bet usually pick a higher percentage of winners because no pressure on them.

[big joe 1212]

I have beat this guy every week that I entered so far, and I'm having a losing season. however, I do not want to talk trash, do not want to motivate! I just want to keep collecting. The only person with worse handicapping on this site is Richkas!

[laxdjock]

For last year, I don't think it had to be 4-0, but you had to beat him, and it'd go to the top 10 people, with post count being the first tie-breaker. I don't think I played all of the time (only won once), so I'll defer to others who are regulars.

[Mudcat]

Yeah the rules change a bit every year.

I think you're right about last year except it was more like the top 50 finishers that beat him each week that got prizes, not 10. First prize was $500 and then everyone else got $100. And yes, post count was the tie-breaker.

[hhsilver]

Yeah the rules change a bit every year.

I think you're right about last year except it was more like the top 50 finishers that beat him each week that got prizes, not 10. First prize was $500 and then everyone else got $100. And yes, post count was the tie-breaker.

you might be thinking of a year prior to last year. Last year, for the year end prizes, it was the top 15. The first 3 or 4 were very large prizes, then it went down by 100 for each position until 15th place got 100.

In the weekly , 10 top finishers , with post count as tie breaker , got 100. I think there was only 1 week ( maybe 2) where someone with less than 5 pts got in.

[Mudcat]

Actually yeah, I probably am thinking of the previous year. I forgot, I missed most of last year.

I was providing picks to tomcast but I was out of commission myself and wasn't following it on the forum much. So in my mind, I still see the previous year.

Wasn't it only 3 picks a week the first year?

Hmmm, maybe not.