Is Nadal hurt right now?

brettels · 05-10-12, 11:36 AM

Classic

Mikail · 05-10-12, 11:38 AM

Dirty play. I'd be pissed if I had Nadal. Players will continue to get away with this until something is done about it.

MUHerd37 · 05-10-12, 11:41 AM

Nadal can't even hit the ball now.

MagicDiceFlow · 05-10-12, 11:42 AM

brettels · 05-10-12, 11:43 AM

Tennis , so reliable LMFAO

Mikail · 05-10-12, 11:43 AM

Yeah it's official.

I will go ahead and add Nadal to my list of scumbag tennis cheats.

RoryMacdonald · 05-10-12, 11:43 AM

vamos verdasco !!!!!!!!!!

MagicDiceFlow · 05-10-12, 11:43 AM

Nadal just fukked up 90% of all tennis parlays today.

MUHerd37 · 05-10-12, 11:45 AM

He lost on purpose. Up 5-2 in the 3rd set on clay. Couldn't even hit the ball all of a sudden?

Sport_Fish · 05-10-12, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow

Nadal just fukked up 90% of all tennis parlays today.

99% **

brettels · 05-10-12, 11:45 AM

Milllions lost around the world in this match, so glad I don't bet outside grand slams in tennis any more.

Mikail · 05-10-12, 11:48 AM

Tennis is a shady proposition. Even top players will rig matches.

Sport_Fish · 05-10-12, 11:49 AM

Verdasco deserves some sort of royalty from the bookies around the world...he should get a small % of those millions they just made.

MagicDiceFlow · 05-10-12, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

Tennis is a shady proposition. Even top players will rig matches.

Guarantee you matches are fixed even in Masters. Its so easy to fix a match when you're the only component. Who gives a flying fukk about Masters and rankings nowadays. Its all about how many slams you've won in your career.

Sport_Fish · 05-10-12, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow

Guarantee you matches are fixed even in Masters. Its so easy to fix a match when you're the only component. Who gives a flying fukk about Masters and rankings nowadays. Its all about how many slams you've won in your career.

But then again, why would a player like Nadal engage in fixing? No way he needs the money...his reputation has more value than any amt of money for him.

I can see players out of the top 25-50 range doing stuff like that, because many times they have no hope of cashing big in these tournys.

blackbeSSt · 05-10-12, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow

Nadal just fukked up 90% of all tennis parlays today.

Originally posted by brettels

Milllions lost around the world in this match, so glad I don't bet outside grand slams in tennis any more.

why the fukk people put -4000 faves in parlays is beyond me. you get what you deserve for trying to add what, $4 to your payout

jjgold · 05-10-12, 12:32 PM

Nadal lost interest at end

He tanked only for rest and he likes Versaco

He wanted a good workout and now does not have to play 3 more matches

YorkHunt · 05-10-12, 12:34 PM

What dumbass would put a -4000 fav in a parlay

Tsonga · 05-10-12, 12:38 PM

I didn't think this tourney would have his focus. If you listened to him talk about the blue clay you should have been hesitant to back him here.

He should win next week and i'm thinking he will take the french. didn't see the match today but I highly doubt he tanked... when verdasco is on (which isn't very often) he is a tough player and can win big matches on clay.

ngates815 · 05-10-12, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by YorkHunt

What dumbass would put a -4000 fav in a parlay

I'm guessing he had Berdych and Nadal in a 2 teamer.

35 bucks to win 11.50...He really wanted that extra 1.50 and thought it was free money...Coulda just had Berdych 35 to win 10 and called it a day.

MagicDiceFlow · 05-10-12, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Sport_Fish

But then again, why would a player like Nadal engage in fixing? No way he needs the money...his reputation has more value than any amt of money for him.

I can see players out of the top 25-50 range doing stuff like that, because many times they have no hope of cashing big in these tournys.

Nadal definitely didnt tank this one for the money but for his friend & countryman. He already publicly announced displeasure with the organizers and surface of this tourney.

MagicDiceFlow · 05-10-12, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Tsonga

I didn't think this tourney would have his focus. If you listened to him talk about the blue clay you should have been hesitant to back him here.

He should win next week and i'm thinking he will take the french. didn't see the match today but I highly doubt he tanked... when verdasco is on (which isn't very often) he is a tough player and can win big matches on clay.

You didnt watch the entire match. It was clearly evident in that last set after being up 5-2, he missed about 10 to 15 shots. These were easy practice looking groundballs. I didnt have any money on him but definitely feel sorry for those that did.

jjgold · 05-10-12, 01:27 PM

He tanked it for non money reasons

Case closed

Jerm3462 · 05-10-12, 01:30 PM

Like I said before, I dont see how any "real" competitor can tank a match/game.
I mean, you traveled there, and had to play the 2 hour match anyway. Why not just win?

blackbeSSt · 05-10-12, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Jerm3462

Like I said before, I dont see how any "real" competitor can tank a match/game.
I mean, you traveled there, and had to play the 2 hour match anyway. Why not just win?

maybe he wanted a real practice. rafa wins matches 99 times out of 100 when up 5-2 in the deciding set.

YorkHunt · 05-10-12, 01:47 PM

Even if he did fix it....you lost... case closed what are you going to do??

ParlayininHTown · 05-10-12, 02:04 PM

I think what's lost in all this is Verdasco played a pretty good match and had a lot of energy at the end despite playing around 2 1/2 hours yesterday. I thought for sure Nadal would wear him down in 3 sets after watching his match yesterday.

Sorry to those who lost money on this, but it's a good lesson to learn. Never put a quadruple-digit favorite in a parlay. Besides, Nadal had no business being a 40-to-1 favorite over Verdasco in the first plce. 10-to-1? Maybe ... 15-to-1? That's pushing it ... 20-to-1? Well, now you're making me laugh. But 40-to-1?

No professional should ever be a 40-to-1 favorite to beat another professional, and I don't care what the head-to-head record is between two professionals. It's not like Verdasco plays nothing but Challenger tourneys or is some qualifier who's ranked 300th.

innn · 05-10-12, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by ParlayininHTown

He can't hold his serve right now. It's pathetic that the No. 2 player in the world can't hold his serve once to close out a match against a far inferior opponent (w/ all due respect to Verdasco)

I've heard the man has a new racket which is heavier than usual to help him have a bigger serve
I guess he knows by now that it has to weigh at least 50 lbs to be able to gain that serve

EaglesPhan36 · 05-10-12, 02:17 PM

Verdasco is a mental midget because of his A.D.D. ... but when he can concentrate, the guy is still dangerous especially on this surface. If there is one player on tour that will not tank a match, it's Nadal. He may have had an off day or not been concentrating well, but the guy is not going to hand a match to anyone.

And from a betting perspective, if you're betting on a -2000 or -3000 favorite .... you're the idiot to begin with. Books have been progressively setting these lines more outlandishly this season than ever before to take your money. I think Verdasco was +1000 or higher for this match ... those are just stupid odds. The only time you should be seeing these odds is in the opening rounds of a Grand Slam.

baskets · 05-10-12, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by ParlayininHTown

I think what's lost in all this is Verdasco played a pretty good match and had a lot of energy at the end despite playing around 2 1/2 hours yesterday. I thought for sure Nadal would wear him down in 3 sets after watching his match yesterday.

Sorry to those who lost money on this, but it's a good lesson to learn. Never put a quadruple-digit favorite in a parlay. Besides, Nadal had no business being a 40-to-1 favorite over Verdasco in the first plce. 10-to-1? Maybe ... 15-to-1? That's pushing it ... 20-to-1? Well, now you're making me laugh. But 40-to-1?

No professional should ever be a 40-to-1 favorite to beat another professional, and I don't care what the head-to-head record is between two professionals. It's not like Verdasco plays nothing but Challenger tourneys or is some qualifier who's ranked 300th.

lol

greatest clay courter ever who hadn't lost to Verdy in over a dozen matches... and hadn't lost to countrymen on clay in nearly 10 years

I'm sure you bet Verdasco +3000 before the match.

Love these super geniuses. And I put Nadal in a few parlays to throw in a few bucks so be it.

Mikail · 05-10-12, 02:29 PM

We need not speculate on why Nadal tanked. He did it and it's done and over with. I'm sure he wasn't paid off to lose but more likely didn't want to continue with the tourney that he had already expressed displeasure about. Also who better to lose too in the Madrid tourney then a fellow spaniard who is also a friend. Is it immoral to participate in a competition with the intention of losing? Well yeah but this wasn't the first time a player has done this kind of shady activity and it won't be the last either.

jjgold · 05-10-12, 02:34 PM

He did it for the rest and mad at tourney officials

plankton43 · 05-10-12, 02:35 PM

The only reason I can see taking Nadal in a parlay is as an open spot as a last leg in a huge parlay.

I cannot believe he blew a 5-2 lead... He was vehemently against the blue clay, it would be strange of him to fix the game with a 5-2 lead in the 3rd.

Mikail · 05-10-12, 02:37 PM

I consider this match a low point in Nadal's career. I've never known him to purposely tank a match like he did today and I've lost a lot of respect for him as a player. He should of backed out if he didn't want to go on. Shady move to play and lose on purpose.

RoryMacdonald · 05-10-12, 02:42 PM

I could def. see guys like Nadal if its the last leg of your parlay and you just want to get your money or only bet nadal/djokovic/serena etc. in a 25 team parlay or something like that but.......useless.