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  • TheCentaur
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-28-11
    • 8108

    #1
    I wish Bryce Harper the best of luck but...
    it looks like his swing is vulnerable to a good offspeed pitcher. So many moving parts and loading up could spell trouble for the kid.

    Just don't see that swing holding up against a pitcher throwing a 96 mph fastball followed by an identical looking 78 mph offspeed pitch. Too much back to front motion.

    He's fast and has a great arm though, that's for sure.

  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Too mechanical
    Prone to LONG SLUMPS
    Too stiff
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    • Living The Dream
      SBR MVP
      • 12-23-09
      • 4521

      #3
      Fast
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Now here is a natural hitter...just fukkin gifted

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        • InTheDrink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-23-09
          • 23983

          #5


          Bunch of Walt Hrniak's in here

          You guys don't have a fukkin clue what you're talking about.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Guy is a steroid robut
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            • blackbeSSt
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-06-08
              • 9398

              #7
              he can thank the rooster suckers at espn for giving him a big head and then failing to produce
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              • gryfyn1
                SBR MVP
                • 03-30-10
                • 3285

                #8
                I assume by "front back motion" and "loading up" you are referring to his long stride. Which should not be an issue. He does an great job at keeping his front side tucked and using his stride to load his hips and not generating his swing power from his hips and not his stride.
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                • Ghenghis Kahn
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 19734

                  #9
                  wasn't the hype about this guy his power and not his high batting average? so as long as he hits the long ball, i doubt he needs to hit over .300 to be successful.
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                  • TheCentaur
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-28-11
                    • 8108

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gryfyn1
                    I assume by "front back motion" and "loading up" you are referring to his long stride. Which should not be an issue. He does an great job at keeping his front side tucked and using his stride to load his hips and not generating his swing power from his hips and not his stride.

                    Notice what Tanner, the back to back College World Series champion head coach, says from :28 to :50.

                    Also, Bryce Howard doesn't just stride forward like you were talking about, it looks like he loads up initially with a considerable backward rock, and as he strides forward his level or height even changes quite a bit. I'm not saying he can't hit it hard or doesn't have athletic ability, I just think to be successful in the bigs he's going to have to quiet these things down.
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                    • HoulihansTX
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-12-09
                      • 30566

                      #11
                      Bryce Howard
                      Who the fuk is this?
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                      • zoo youk
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-23-11
                        • 10701

                        #12
                        unbelievable. now we have mlb scouts here at sbr.
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                        • zoo youk
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-23-11
                          • 10701

                          #13
                          he's ******* 19 and accomplished more in a major league game last night than most utility veteran players have in their life
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                          • WvGambler
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-19-10
                            • 11618

                            #14
                            Dude you totally should've emailed the Nats this information before they drafted him. You could've saved them millions.

























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                            • zoo youk
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-23-11
                              • 10701

                              #15
                              this bozo says hes stride is too long and wont fair well against off speed but in the video he is facing the ultimate off speed pitcher master in livan hernandez and he pulls the ball for a base hit. unreal.
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                              • zoo youk
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-23-11
                                • 10701

                                #16
                                and nobody EVER has thrown a fastball 96 mph than a change up 76 mph..thats a ******* 20 mph difference. if someone ever did that theyd win 500 games.

                                he ripped an inside fastball around 94 off Billingslly around his hands last night straight up to center field.
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                                • blackbeSSt
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-06-08
                                  • 9398

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by zoo youk
                                  he's ******* 19 and accomplished more in a major league game last night than most utility veteran players have in their life
                                  most veteran utility players haven't had a better night then 1-3
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                                  • TheCentaur
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-28-11
                                    • 8108

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by zoo youk
                                    and nobody EVER has thrown a fastball 96 mph than a change up 76 mph..thats a ******* 20 mph difference. if someone ever did that theyd win 500 games.
                                    I said 78 get your facts straight.
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                                    • zoo youk
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-23-11
                                      • 10701

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by blackbeSSt
                                      most veteran utility players haven't had a better night then 1-3
                                      more than a stat sheet. he ripped a double over Kemps head, hit the go ahead sac fly RBI in the 9th and gunned down a runner by a mile at home plate but the catcher couldn't hold on the ball even tho it was right to his chest.

                                      all at 19 years old. yes most utility players have never had a night like that.
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                                      • zoo youk
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-23-11
                                        • 10701

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                        I said 78 get your facts straight.
                                        still an 18mph difference. most fastball to change up ratio is around 8-10mph. 10mph if your absolutely sick with it.

                                        your buried yourself already, don't dig deeper.
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                                        • TheCentaur
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-28-11
                                          • 8108

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by zoo youk
                                          still an 18mph difference. most fastball to change up ratio is around 8-10mph. 10mph if your absolutely sick with it.

                                          your buried yourself already, don't dig deeper.
                                          Yes I did make an error, I meant to say offspeed, which would be for example a curveball starting along the same path as the previous fastball and breaking out of the strike zone.

                                          You seem to be really offended by this thread, chill out
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                                          • InTheDrink
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-23-09
                                            • 23983

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                            You seem to be really offended by this thread, chill out


                                            just admit its a stupid thread and you have no clue what youre talking about here
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                                            • Callum Kidman
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 04-29-12
                                              • 2

                                              #23
                                              Hey,
                                              You are a right. I have the same opinion.
                                              Thanks.
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                                              • TheCentaur
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-28-11
                                                • 8108

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by InTheDrink


                                                just admit its a stupid thread and you have no clue what youre talking about here
                                                Are you going to offer your opinion or just keep telling me how wrong I am?
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  His swing is long
                                                  Bat speed seems fast
                                                  But is he just a computer swinger
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                                                  • blackbeSSt
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-06-08
                                                    • 9398

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by zoo youk
                                                    more than a stat sheet. he ripped a double over Kemps head, hit the go ahead sac fly RBI in the 9th and gunned down a runner by a mile at home plate but the catcher couldn't hold on the ball even tho it was right to his chest.

                                                    all at 19 years old. yes most utility players have never had a night like that.


                                                    so sac flys now count as being called "the chosen one"
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                                                    • zoo youk
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-23-11
                                                      • 10701

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                                      Yes I did make an error, I meant to say offspeed, which would be for example a curveball starting along the same path as the previous fastball and breaking out of the strike zone.

                                                      You seem to be really offended by this thread, chill out
                                                      I'm chilled. just a very silly thread. btw who is the girl in your avatar?
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                                                      • zoo youk
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-23-11
                                                        • 10701

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by blackbeSSt


                                                        so sac flys now count as being called "the chosen one"
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                                                        • JMobile
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-21-10
                                                          • 19074

                                                          #29
                                                          Harper needs to get a short swing. He is gonna strike out a lot. Get a short swing like Chase Utley and he will hit more bombs.
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                                                          • InTheDrink
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-23-09
                                                            • 23983

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                                            Are you going to offer your opinion or just keep telling me how wrong I am?
                                                            did you even watch the game? right from the beginning they talked about the adjustments he's been making to his swing....the guy's a superior talent and if you think he can't make adjustments then you're clueless

                                                            What's next....are you gonna tell us gary sheffield will never make it with his unorthodox swing?
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                                                            • zoo youk
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-23-11
                                                              • 10701

                                                              #31
                                                              kid makes a thread for all the forum to see and makes it for sbr pros only so I can't respond LOL.
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                                                              • zoo youk
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-23-11
                                                                • 10701

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                Who the fuk is this?
                                                                didn't even notice that.
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                                                                • TheCentaur
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-28-11
                                                                  • 8108

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                                                  did you even watch the game? right from the beginning they talked about the adjustments he's been making to his swing....the guy's a superior talent and if you think he can't make adjustments then you're clueless

                                                                  What's next....are you gonna tell us gary sheffield will never make it with his unorthodox swing?
                                                                  I mean wtf did you even read my posts? That's exactly what I said, he will need to quiet some things down (make adjustments)
                                                                  A lot of Gary Sheffield's unorthodox swing was bat movement prior to the hitting position which isn't very significant.
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                                                                  • TheCentaur
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-28-11
                                                                    • 8108

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by zoo youk
                                                                    I'm chilled. just a very silly thread. btw who is the girl in your avatar?
                                                                    You call my thread silly, you call me a bozo, then you want me to give you whack off material? Not today pal
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                                                                    • zoo youk
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-23-11
                                                                      • 10701

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                                                      You call my thread silly, you call me a bozo, then you want me to give you whack off material? Not today pal
                                                                      your a weird ass dude man. just cause I called your thread silly and you a bozo makes me sooooooo mad and such a horrible person that you feel the need to make a different thread with my handle in the title that I can't respond to?

                                                                      its called players talk, thats what we do here..talk about sports..debate..if you can't handle some criticism than you need to talk a walk.
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