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  • onthewhat
    Restricted User
    • 05-14-08
    • 15411

    #36
    Originally posted by ryanXL977
    lester is the best lefty in the al
    you ever heard of cliff lee pal? scott kazmir? john danks? francisco liriano?

    all better than lester
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #37
      lester is better than kazmir by a mile, liriano also, and danks

      lee is betetr though
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      • blackbart
        SBR MVP
        • 12-04-07
        • 3835

        #38
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by ryanXL977
        lester is the best lefty in the al

        you ever heard of cliff lee pal? scott kazmir? john danks? francisco liriano?

        all better than lester

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        lester is better than kazmir by a mile, liriano also, and danks

        lee is betetr though
        _________________

        where are the numbers to back this up?
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        • blackbart
          SBR MVP
          • 12-04-07
          • 3835

          #39
          i will show you the numbers for just the laa and bosox, he is not even close to as good as lackey, you are just going by public perception and media infulence

          The Red Sox rotation: Lester (4.19 xFIP, 6.4 IP/GS), Matsuzaka (4.82, 5.8), Beckett (3.35, 6.5); the Angels three-man rotation (this is the "long series", spread over more days, therefore there can be three-man rotations without necessitating pitching on short rest) is Lackey (4.00, 6.8), Santana (3.64, 6.8), and Saunders (4.76, 6.4).
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          • ryanXL977
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-24-08
            • 20615

            #40
            lester is the second best lefty in the al
            i dont watch media, i watch games
            thats all i watch
            i dont give two shits what the media says, i dont watch espn, i dont have any biases.
            you cant have biases and bet my friend

            didnt say lester is better than lackey, but he was last night
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            • blackbart
              SBR MVP
              • 12-04-07
              • 3835

              #41
              these are not my numbers, they are calculated by someone from forensic handicapping and are based on a sabermetric analysis
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              • blackbart
                SBR MVP
                • 12-04-07
                • 3835

                #42
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by ryanXL977
                lester is the best lefty in the al
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                • blackbart
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-04-07
                  • 3835

                  #43
                  as you can see above lester is quite a bit better than dice k though
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                  • ryanXL977
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-24-08
                    • 20615

                    #44
                    i never said dice k is good
                    i said lester is the 2nd best lefty in the al
                    kazmir isnt close, danks aint close, and liriano isnt healthy or fully back yet
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                    • yisman
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-01-08
                      • 75682

                      #45
                      Originally posted by ryanXL977
                      lester made zero bad pitches
                      lackey made 1
                      that was the diff
                      lester is the best lefty in the al
                      Cliff Lee is the best lefty in the AL. Lester is second.
                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                      [/quote]

                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                      • yisman
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-01-08
                        • 75682

                        #46
                        it's in the middle of the game, but right now I'd lay up to -400 on the Phillies to win this series.
                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                        [/quote]

                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                        • ryanXL977
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-24-08
                          • 20615

                          #47
                          why bother laying -400
                          just take them next game at even money or whatever it is, then double up the game after that, if they lose those 2, take hammels for 8 units in game 5

                          no need to lay 400
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                          • blackbart
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-04-07
                            • 3835

                            #48
                            Originally posted by blackbart
                            there are great reasons why we are touting the lad, the distinct bullpen advantage gives them three areas where they exceed the cubs yet public perception is just the opposite. here are the bullpen numbers to back it up.

                            The Dodgers bullpen rates out at a superb 3.35 xFIP, thanks to a weighted average of Broxton (2.91), Saito (3.00), Park (3.96), Wade (4.07), Beimel (4.77). The Cubs bullpen, while excellent, falls short of the Dodgers standard at 3.68, based on Wood (3.12), Marmol (3.87), Howry (4.36), Cotts (3.56), Gaudin (4.30).
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #49
                              Originally posted by ryanXL977
                              why bother laying -400
                              just take them next game at even money or whatever it is, then double up the game after that, if they lose those 2, take hammels for 8 units in game 5

                              no need to lay 400
                              well, you can do that any time in gambling. You can be assured of winning something eventually. Bet once, if it loses, double up, etc.

                              Of course, people tend to end up losing the money in the end anyway...

                              Phillies and Dodgers will meet in the NLCS.
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • Tosser
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-13-08
                                • 263

                                #50
                                Angels +193 MB
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                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-12-07
                                  • 12144

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                  let the guy keep betting cubs bc of their name, makes us more money

                                  lester did not get outpitched. he allowed ZERO ER
                                  Do I even need to suggest your hypocrisy here?
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                                  • junkie16
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 10-01-08
                                    • 22

                                    #52
                                    Play the Angels, Ricky's
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                                    • blackbart
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-04-07
                                      • 3835

                                      #53
                                      i hope we talked some off the cubs
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