How much did Fishhead profit from slot machines?

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  • SlickFazzer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-22-08
    • 20209

    #1
    How much did Fishhead profit from slot machines?
    I'm not convinced.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    He claims he won over $500K playing them
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    • SlickFazzer
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-22-08
      • 20209

      #3
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Serious

        I think it is true, but wait he included bonuses and whatever other perks you get playing slots for long periods of times. I think certain machines are beatable if you play them like 20 hrs a day. Well back in the day it was true.
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        • Patrick McIrish
          SBR MVP
          • 09-15-05
          • 2864

          #5
          It's true, Fish did very well in this area. I won't assign a dollar amount, I don't know what it would be exactly, depends how many hours he "worked" that particular year. Not just Fish, Vodoo (old poster from RX/MW) and some other sharpies made a nice living back in those days as well.
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          • compaqDikk
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-08-05
            • 5699

            #6
            voodoo died of 2nd hand smoke
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            • reno cool
              SBR MVP
              • 07-02-08
              • 3567

              #7
              Its true. He wasn't the only one. And he should know better than to brag about this on a public forum.
              bird bird da bird's da word
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              • Fishhead
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-11-05
                • 40179

                #8
                Voodoo wasn't into slot machines as much as me, although he did play plenty

                ........Voodoo's main emphasis was on blackjack(top ten player in the world in all probability), sportsbetting, and video poker more so than "slot" machines.

                The good money in 'slot' machines were the years 1995-2000, when literally hundreds of different "bonus" machines were hitting the casino floor. A very small select group of us pros would be the first to find and figure out how to beat these machines. It was not uncommon for less than 4-5 of us that knew how to beat many of these type of machines.

                Probably not to many made more money off of these slot machines than me, but I guarantee you a handful did so.

                As just ONE example of beating the slots, when Sunset Station opened, it took them a month to figure out that 6-8 of us were beating them on a particular "timing" machine.......combined, the 6-8 of us probably beat them for $250,000 at the very least in that 28 days this was available..................I recall making about $18,000 or so on the play myself in the 28 days it was available.


                Compaq--what do mean "voodoo died of 2nd hand smoke"???
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  fishhead you belong in Vegas

                  Your downfall began when you moved to Florida
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    fishhead you belong in Vegas

                    Your downfall began when you moved to Florida

                    I do not recommend Florida to anyone.........looking to bail as we speak.


                    IOWA
                    TENNESSEE
                    NEVADA
                    WASHINGTON

                    CANADA
                    IRELAND
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                    • Mudcat
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-21-05
                      • 9287

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SlickFazzer
                      I'm not convinced.

                      Skepticism is justified. For my first several years betting full-time, Fishhead was known as one of the biggest shills in forum-land. He was more polite than Raiders - and he didn't have Raiders knack of finding books that were going to fold - but he was there at theRX spinning and twisting info every day.

                      My experience with being a successful bettor is it buys you a lot of self-respect. You do not need to shill.

                      It would be a long time before I could look at anything from Raiders or Fishhead without thinking, "What is he trying to sell now?"
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                      • Richkas
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-03-08
                        • 19396

                        #12
                        How much did Fishhead profit from slot machines?

                        Zero
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                        • Fishhead
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-11-05
                          • 40179

                          #13
                          Not selling anything....lol.

                          98% of the time this slot subject is broght up by others.

                          Progressives, bonus machines, and timed machines are the only ways to beat slots without cheating that I know.

                          In the case of the SUNSET STATION play, they had a group of $1 machines that sometime every 20-34 minutes if you were playing a machine, it would go into a 2x-5x mode for 45 seconds. Well a handful of us figured out the pattern and knew within 5 minutes or less when the mode would come on. The problem still existed of having to play the machine, well we figured out if one played just ONE coin every 12-14 seconds, the machine would qualify for the bonus mode.

                          So in theory, one would a lose a few bucks playing this one coin every 12-14 seconds in the 1-4 minutes before the bonus would come on. When the bonus activated, one would then play the MAXIMUM coins and play as fast as possible........every pay would be 2-5x the normal pay. As mentioned, this would last for about 45 seconds. As you can figure out, this is a tremendous overlay. After the bonus mode went away, one would stay on the machine for a tad and then cash out and prepare for the next round in 20-32 minutes.

                          As mentioned earlier, I personally made about 18,000 on this play over 28 days(not counting comps and cashback on card) and others made more than me as they put in more time than myself.

                          Now again, this is only ONE example of the hundreds of plays that presented itself over the years.

                          These particular "timing" plays were only found at few casinos and were not as profitable as the bonus and progressive machines.

                          These "timing" machines were found at Sunset Station, The Orleans, Circus Circus, and the Edgewater in Laughlin..........there may have been others that I do not know of or have forgotten.
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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40179

                            #14
                            I'm actually on a very small slot play here in Tampa at this time(on the boat).

                            Not worth a whole lot, but basically no risk.

                            On average, a 5 hour cruise will net one about 60-70 bucks on average............plus comps.

                            Usually hit it up a couple times a week.
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                            • fiveteamer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-08
                              • 10805

                              #15
                              Fishhead, do you use the button, or the big lever?
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40179

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                Fishhead, do you use the button, or the big lever?

                                On all "timing" plays, button only, as speed is of the essence.

                                On all others, it doesnt matter.........but still use the buttons and perhaps 1 out of 20 spins I will pull the lever just out of boredom.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  fishhead seems legit to me


                                  I think some guys are jealous that he makes money
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                                  • compaqDikk
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-08-05
                                    • 5699

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                    On all "timing" plays, button only, as speed is of the essence.

                                    On all others, it doesnt matter.........but still use the buttons and perhaps 1 out of 20 spins I will pull the lever just out of boredom.
                                    he said pull the lever

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                                    • compaqDikk
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-08-05
                                      • 5699

                                      #19
                                      fisherman spent so much time in front of slots he forgets where his restroom is in pad

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                                      • SlickFazzer
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-22-08
                                        • 20209

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        fishhead seems legit to me


                                        I think some guys are jealous that he makes money
                                        I am jealous. I need to increase my income by $1000 a month, don't think slots are a viable option for most.
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                                        • compaqDikk
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-08-05
                                          • 5699

                                          #21
                                          slikkler we moved to fraud because we're unable to make an honest buck. razor sharp right now
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                                          • SlickFazzer
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-22-08
                                            • 20209

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by compaqDikk
                                            slikkler we moved to fraud because we're unable to make an honest buck. razor sharp right now
                                            Compaq, you seem like a very savvy entrepreneur.
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                                            • compaqDikk
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 10-08-05
                                              • 5699

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SlickFazzer
                                              Compaq, you seem like a very savvy entrepreneur.
                                              JJgold groomed me
                                              walker took me under his wing

                                              thank you both
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