Time to sack up fellas: 10 units on CLIFF LEE tonight

[griz]

one rule i live by: when a pitcher gets an inflated contract (matt cain), bet against them for everything you have.

went all in on Halladay earlier in the week, taking a large portion of those winnings and riding CLIFF LEE for a big time score tonight boys.

big rooster play here. take out some cash from the 401k to hammer this play.

[BIGDAY]

Going large Griz. Don't fuk me pal.

[milwaukee mike]

one rule i live by: when a pitcher gets an inflated contract (matt cain), bet against them for everything you have.

went all in on Halladay earlier in the week, taking a large portion of those winnings and riding CLIFF LEE for a big time score tonight boys.

big rooster play here. take out some cash from the 401k to hammer this play.

if you're not over 59 1/2 and you take money out of a 401k you get creamed in taxes/penalties.
to net $1000 you probably have to cash out $2000, so then even if you win you're only back to the original $2000.

[griz]

if you're not over 59 1/2 and you take money out of a 401k you get creamed in taxes/penalties.
to net $1000 you probably have to cash out $2000, so then even if you win you're only back to the original $2000.

mikey i was using that to express how confident i am in this pick.

Disclaimer: the bear's den does not endorse taking money out of 401k accounts until retirement.

[RoadDog]

Love this play tonight. BOL griz.

[frizzelli]

All in

[stuntin909]

i need a winner....tailing.

[RoadDog]

i need a winner....tailing.

Marlins. Phillies.

[griz]

5 fukkin hours till first pitch.

[RoadDog]

Nervous?

[a4u2fear]

mortgage on this.

[shawnjohn5]

Griz your premise might make a little sense but in this case it doesn't. Cain is getting about what the going rate for a dominant right hander, let's put that aside right now. Madison Bumgarner got a fat new contract and then went on to whoop the phillies, Matt Cain in big games is MONEY. This is a very important game against a team the giants want to make a statement against. I don't see the contract as inflated first of all and second of all he's already started since the big contract. The euphoria of the new cotract has worn off and now it's down to business. Good luck taking that philly offense who have averaged 2 runs a game the past 5 games. OTHER then lincecum the phillies keep getting dominated by the giants pitching. Good luck with this play but much better ones on the board. LAST night big play was giants, today it was atlanta...

[RoadDog]

Do a little numbers research and you'll see Lee has a distinct edge tonight.

[dj_destroyer]

Gonna go ahead and fade this... simply for the fact that not this many ^^ SBR posters can go to sleep happy tonight. Just not a possibility. GL.

[William Walters]

if you're not over 59 1/2 and you take money out of a 401k you get creamed in taxes/penalties.
to net $1000 you probably have to cash out $2000, so then even if you win you're only back to the original $2000.

I believe it's 10% plus your personal tax rate/bracket. Either way.................no good.

[milwaukee mike]

mikey i was using that to express how confident i am in this pick.

Disclaimer: the bear's den does not endorse taking money out of 401k accounts until retirement.

great

because if you are in the vast majority and don't have a ton of money, when you take it out in retirement it probably won't even be taxable unless it's like over $20k/year

i hope one of these pitchers gets rocked in the 1st inning since i have a side bet going

[milwaukee mike]

I believe it's 10% plus your personal tax rate/bracket. Either way.................no good.

just the federal is 10% + your tax bracket (let's say 25%) so 35% federal
add to that wisconsin 7.75% + wisconsin penalty 3.33% so 11% wisconsin

almost 1/2, so my example isn't far off.

[BiffTFinancial]

Do a little numbers research and you'll see Lee has a distinct edge tonight.

Giants batting .182 vs lefties so far this year.

[alukk]

SF for me tonight

[swervv]

I actually allready put 1 quarter of my stack on lee ...LETS DO IT !!

[KingJD31]

Where does this confidence in the Phillies bats against Cain come from

[RoadDog]

Giants batting .182 vs lefties so far this year.

Current relevant Giants dont touch him. Current Giants have 2 extra base hits off of Lee combined. Phils hit Cain hard.

[RoadDog]

Numbers vs. Cain

Wiggington 3-9, 1 hr, 5 rbi
Nix 8-20, 1 hr, 1 rbi
Pence 5-15, 1 hr, 4 rbi
Rollins 7-17, 1 hr, 3 triples, 2 doubles, 5 rbi

No one comes close to having those type of numbers against Lee. Just food for thought. I know its just 4 guys, but thats a lot of production.

[jeannezhen2]

giants is going to own them phillies

[KingJD31]

Numbers vs. Cain

Wiggington 3-9, 1 hr, 5 rbi
Nix 8-20, 1 hr, 1 rbi
Pence 5-15, 1 hr, 4 rbi
Rollins 7-17, 1 hr, 3 triples, 2 doubles, 5 rbi

No one comes close to having those type of numbers against Lee. Just food for thought. I know its just 4 guys, but thats a lot of production.

Yeah but it's not like those number are eye popping, better games to push than this one IMO

[married2themoney]

Grabbed my nuts all in on lee

[griz]

might up this to 20 units.

[creightonbjaysNC]

Yeah but it's not like those number are eye popping, better games to push than this one IMO

Those are some pretty huge numbers against a dominant pitcher. BOL.

[RoadDog]

Those are some pretty huge numbers against a dominant pitcher. BOL.

I'm glad someone got my point.

[dj_destroyer]

Let's goooo Giants!

Matty Cain my go-to guy tonight!

[Sick_in_the_Head]

Im on it. Hope i dont get fvcked

[JMon]

Let's goooo Giants!

Matty Cain my go-to guy tonight!

I'll be with ya

[MikeyD323]

Backing it. Thanks and GL

[Br0nxer]

on it LARGE griz

dont fukk me pal

[frizzelli]

on it LARGE griz

dont fukk me pal

At the last second I faded this play for 43 units, the guy is due for a loss he has been to hot lately.