how is Nef Feliz making his FIRST ever start -270???

Monitor-Tan · 04-10-12, 10:05 AM

Then why not bet the over..

zoo youk · 04-10-12, 10:15 AM

cause I don't just throw money around son

redsoxfreak91 · 04-10-12, 10:17 AM

Because he is facing Blake Beavan, yes, Blake Beavan

zoo youk · 04-10-12, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by redsoxfreak91

Because he is facing Blake Beavan, yes, Blake Beavan

i can honestly say i have absolutely no idea who that is...and im really good with players.

redsoxfreak91 · 04-10-12, 10:35 AM

You've never heard of Blake Beavan. He is a Swedish prodigy that was signed by the team 3 years ago. Unfortunately for the Mariners, his swedish team wouldnt release him so he had to stay until this season. He posted a .87 ERA last year with 289 strikeouts in 198 innings.

zoo youk · 04-10-12, 10:38 AM

^^ lol

konck · 04-10-12, 10:40 AM

He is pitching vs a toilet.....He may only go 5 innings but they even won Yesterday
when the Jap folded 1st inning. BA against this guy is unreal but he doesnt have many innings
I can see the line.

HoulihansTX · 04-10-12, 10:41 AM

Offense is considered when making a line also.

stevenash · 04-10-12, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by redsoxfreak91

Because he is facing Blake Beavan, yes, Blake Beavan

His WH/IP ratio really isn't bad (1.24) at all, his K rate sucks (about 4 per 9) and does like to give up the long ball.
Here's my stance, unless you have Bob Gibson going against the 1962 Mets, I don't lay -200 + on the outcome of a regular season baseball game, especially in April.

2011	22	SEA	AL	5	6	.455	4.27	15	15	97.0	106	46	46	13	15	42	3	4	405	90	1.247	9.8	1.2	1.4	3.9	2.80
1 Yr				5	6	.455	4.27	15	15	97.0	106	46	46	13	15	42	3	4	405	90	1.247	9.8	1.2	1.4	3.9	2.80
162 Game Avg.				11	14	.455	4.27	34	34	220	240	104	104	29	34	95	7	9	918	90	1.247	9.8	1.2	1.4	3.9	2.80

Dutchie · 04-10-12, 11:02 AM

Beaven's got great control, he'll need a curveball like Blyleven to win tonight though

face · 04-10-12, 11:06 AM

because the rangers can hit homeruns and the mariners have to get 3 hits to get a run.

stevenash · 04-10-12, 02:10 PM

TEXAS RANGERS CAREER STATISTICS VS. BLAKE BEAVAN
BATTER	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Elvis Andrus	6	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	.167	.167	.167	.333
Adrian Beltre	5	1	1	0	0	0	1	1	.200	.333	.400	.733
Nelson Cruz	3	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	.333	.333	.333	.667
Alberto Gonzalez	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	.500	.667	.500	1.167
Josh Hamilton	6	1	1	0	0	0	0	1	.167	.167	.333	.500
Ian Kinsler	6	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	.167	.286	.167	.452
Mitch Moreland	6	1	0	0	1	3	0	1	.167	.167	.667	.833
David Murphy	6	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	.167	.167	.167	.333
Mike Napoli	2	1	0	0	0	0	1	1	.500	.667	.500	1.167
Yorvit Torrealba	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Michael Young	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Totals	51	9	2	0	1	3	2	6	.176	.236	.275	.511

stevenash · 04-10-12, 02:14 PM

SEATTLE MARINERS CAREER STATISTICS VS. NEFTALI FELIZ
BATTER	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Dustin Ackley	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	.000	.500	.000	.500
Mike Carp	2	0	0	0	0	0	1	2	.000	.333	.000	.333
Chone Figgins	2	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	.000	.333	.000	.333
Franklin Gutierrez	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
John Jaso	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	1.000	.000	1.000
Alex Liddi	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	.000	.000	.000	.000
Adam Moore	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Miguel Olivo	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Trayvon Robinson	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Michael Saunders	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Kyle Seager	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Justin Smoak	2	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	.000	.333	.000	.333
Ichiro Suzuki	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Casper Wells	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Totals	28	0	0	0	0	0	4	13	.000	.152	.000	.152

Pluthero · 04-10-12, 03:13 PM

There's no Carp, Moore, and probably not Montero in the Seattle lineup. That being said, I'm still taking Seattle over the flammable Feliz at that much juice.

zoo youk · 04-10-12, 03:18 PM

Montero hurt already?

CappinTerp · 04-10-12, 03:28 PM

I may take SEA. Beavan vs. TX. is 1-1 with a 1.84 ERA and WHIP of 0.818.!!

Pluthero · 04-10-12, 03:37 PM

Montero's listed as questionable due to tummy trouble. That's why he didn't play yesterday.

ZetaPsi808 · 04-10-12, 04:05 PM

line is not -270 guy,

-230 almost everywhere

zoo youk · 04-10-12, 08:38 PM

Nef killing it

neverstoppers23 · 04-10-12, 09:10 PM

closers to starters usually don't work out because it means the team is despite and wont support him. this is not the case, feliz was used as the closer because they needed him up as one. he was always planned to be a starter.

SASH · 04-10-12, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by zoo youk

that is insane. guys going from closer to starter hardly ever works out. he was a closer for a reason...he has no control of his breaking pitches. wouldn't be surprised if he walks 6 or 7.

not taking seattle cause the rangers can hang 10+ but still this line is ridiculous.

because through 16 innings entering tonights game Feliz's ERA vs the Mariners was 0.00! Now through the 7 scoreless he pitched tonight thats 24 innings that the man has not given up a run to the Mariners...truly amazing!

5teamparlay · 05-13-12, 07:33 PM

no no IN THE 2ND!!!!

PickWinnerAllDay · 05-13-12, 07:52 PM

Feliz sucks. Rangers need an ace and have none. Such a great team but with no ace, the world series will always slip away. Hell, they even had an ace with Cliff Lee and it still didn't work for them.