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  • VegasDave
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    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    My NFL Picks Week 4 (Every Game w/ Write-Ups)!
    Hey everyone! Once again posting the write-ups from my newsletter... ask me if you want to sign up and you can get these emailed to you every Friday morning!

    THE RECORD

    Last Week
    With the spread: 8 - 8 - 0 (.500)
    Without the spread: 10 - 6 - 0 (.625)
    ^^Philosophical Picks^^: 0 - 0 - 0 (N/A)
    **Outright Upsets**: 1 - 4 - 0 (.200)

    Season
    With the spread: 23 - 23 - 0 (.500)
    Without the spread: 27 - 20 - 0 (.574)
    ^^Philosophical Picks^^: 3 - 1 - 0 (.750)
    **Outright Upsets**: 4 - 11 - 0 (.267)


    THE PICKS

    * - Indicates Upset Pick
    ^ - Indicates Philosophical Pick

    SUNDAY

    Atlanta (+6.5) @ Carolina (-6.5)
    Never would have guessed that Atlanta's quest to regain respectability would have been going so well so early, they really have taken strides and look much better then the hapless team they were last year. That being said, I think this is a tough spot for them; hitting the road isn't easy for a rookie QB, and after Carolina squandered an early 10 - 0 lead @ Minnesota, I think they are going to be extra-focused from start to finish in this one on both sides of the ball.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Carolina
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Carolina

    Arizona (+1.0) @ New York Jets (-1.0)
    Absolutely no reason at all the Jets should be favored here. None. This spread tells me that there is still a lot of respect for Brett Favre, and people expect New York at home to finally turn the corner and step up for a big win. I just don't see it. Arizona has a solid secondary that won't let Favre get away with his antics. They also have an offense that shouldn't have trouble moving the ball if the Jets defense in the San Diego game is any indication. I like the Cards here.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Arizona
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: *Arizona

    Cleveland (+3.5) @ Cincinnati (-3.5)
    I'm 100% sure whichever team I pick here is going to lose. It's just one of those games. I'm going to take Cleveland though; I simply can not believe their offense is as anemic as it has looked so far this season. Maybe the Dallas, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore defenses have just made it look this bad? Then again, what's to say Cincy won't pound this team like everyone else has? It is too hard to say. But in a game I'd consider a total coin flip, I have to TAKE the points instead of give them.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Cleveland
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: *Cleveland

    Minnesota (+3.0) @ Tennessee (-3.0)
    Very interesting game here that could be trouble, but I'm not picking against Tennessee until they show some signs of weakness. Minnesota will NOT get away with throwing the ball deep on Tennessee like they did against Carolina, and if anyone can stop Minnesota's deadly rushing game, it is this stingy D. Giving up only a FG at home, they are the pick here I think.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Tennessee
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Tennessee

    Green Bay (+1.0) @ Tampa Bay (-1.0)
    I respect Tampa Bay as much as anyone... but this is a little too much respect. GB loses a game to the best team in football and all of a sudden everyone has fallen out of love with them? Losing Harris was a HUGE blow to this team, don't get me wrong, but I don't think Brian Greise is the guy that is going to exploit this. I think Green Bay finds a way to win this game.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Green Bay
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: *Green Bay

    San Francisco (+5.0) @ New Orleans (-5.0)
    San Francisco has looked pretty damn good in this young season, but I'm still not a believer. They got a ton of favorable bounces in the Seattle game, and Detroit looks pretty useless (again) this year. New Orleans is dealing with the injury bug big time, but I think they have enough firepower to win this game at home by a TD or more.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: New Orleans
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: New Orleans

    Houston (+7.0) @ Jacksonville (-7.0)
    I wanted to take Houston here, but I just can't. Houston got beat up on the road against Pittsburgh, then they headed to Tennessee and got beat up on both sides of the ball again. Now they travel AGAIN to a tough team coming fresh off an impressive upset in Indy. This Houston team has to be reeling right now, and I think Jacksonville gets back to .500 in convincing fashion.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Jacksonville
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Jacksonville

    Denver (-9.5) @ Kansas City (+9.5)
    This is one of those games. Denver has looked unstoppable on offense - their passing game hasn't clicked like this in years. Kansas City meanwhile has looked totally useless this season on both sides of the ball and no one in their right mind would pick them. So what am I going to do? Pick them. Denver goes in overconfident, Kansas City comes in frustrated and playing for their pride in front of an angry Arrowhead crowd. No idea how, but Kansas City finds a way to keep this close.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: ^*Kansas City
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Denver

    Buffalo (-9.0) @ St. Louis (+9.0)
    I really, really want to pick St. Louis for the exact same reasons as I picked KC, but I just can't. I visualize final scores in my head and they never, ever come up close. Buffalo is just too good on defense to let this team score on them, and St. Louis has been too miserable on defense to stop anybody. This team is in REALLY bad shape. Yes, I know KC is too, but that is a division rivalry. St. Louis is just in REALLY bad shape.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Buffalo
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Buffalo

    San Diego (-8.0) @ Oakland (+8.0)
    I hate this game because just like the Cleveland game, I know I'm going to lose it no matter which way I pick. I really hate myself for picking Oakland after I had San Diego typed out, but really, this Merriman-less team has not looked good on defense at all and maybe, just maybe, this is the game that Jamarcus spreads his wings. Also, if we throw out the Denver game and the last quarter of the Buffalo game, the Raiders defense has shown it is capable of being very, very good. I can't get the score SD 38 - OAK 7 out of my head, but despite that, I'm going to take the points at home here and home the A-squad defense shows up this week.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Oakland
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: San Diego

    Washington (+11.0) @ Dallas (-11.0)
    I'm just stocking up on big point underdogs this week! Okay, is Dallas the best team in the NFL? Probably. Are they very capable of winning this game by 4 or 5 touchdowns? Absolutely. But Washington has already done a pretty respectable job keeping New York, Arizona, and New Orleans in close games; and this is a division rivalry game. As much as I respect Dallas, I don't think Washington rolls over here.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: *Washington
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Dallas

    Philadelphia (-3.0) @ Chicago (+3.0)
    This is very interesting. Almost feels like a trap. Chicago has kept things close against Carolina and Tampa Bay; two games they probably should have won, actually. Chicago was -3.0 in both of those games. Now, against a healthy McNabb, they are only +3.0 here. Am I underrating Chicago too much, or are the books/public overrating them too much? This week will clear that up a little; but I for one think Philly wins by a TD or more.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Philadelphia
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Philadelphia

    MONDAY

    Baltimore (+5.0) @ Pittsburgh (-5.0)
    This one is really tough because Baltimore has looked so good and Pittsburgh has looked very ordinary for two straight weeks. That said, this will be Baltimore's first road game, and I'm also expecting Pittsburgh's offense to explode one of these days. Not an easy task against Baltimore's defense, but an overdue Pittsburgh offense + a rookie QB in his first road game against a division rival on Monday Night, its enough for me.
    PICK WITH THE SPREAD: Pittsburgh
    PICK WITHOUT THE SPREAD: Pittsburgh

    Good Luck!
  • VegasDave
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    • 01-03-07
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    #2
    Less then 6 hours to go!
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    • I.R.B
      SBR MVP
      • 08-12-08
      • 3209

      #3
      Eh do you think the Rams will play like shit tomorow knowing that there coach is going to get fired if they lose?
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      • I.R.B
        SBR MVP
        • 08-12-08
        • 3209

        #4
        Not saying that they will win it if they wanted to . lol .
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        • VegasDave
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          • 01-03-07
          • 8056

          #5
          The Rams have to put it together sooner or later, they are a pro team after all. I'm just hoping its later
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          • VegasDave
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            • 01-03-07
            • 8056

            #6
            Top 5 (by jimmy's request):

            1. Cleveland (Palmer out, and I already expected them to step up before this news)
            2. New Orleans
            3. Green Bay
            4. Philadelphia
            5. Jacksonville
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            • $$POOLCRAZY$$$$
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-15-08
              • 274

              #7
              Bet the farm on Minnasota in a 3team tease!!
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              • VegasDave
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                • 01-03-07
                • 8056

                #8
                Here we go... good luck everyone!
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                • SportyJulie
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                  • 08-15-08
                  • 10

                  #9
                  Good luck!
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                  • VegasDave
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                    • 01-03-07
                    • 8056

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SportyJulie
                    Good luck!
                    Thanks!
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                    • VegasDave
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                      • 01-03-07
                      • 8056

                      #11
                      7 - 4 on the day isn't bad, but I am still beyond livid at the Raider game.

                      Raiders dominate the entire 1st half 15 - 0...

                      18 - 18 with just 2 mins and change to go. Sproles, who hadn't had a good return all day, now breaks it to the Raiders 35. So what would have been a clock eating game winning drive now just puts the Chargers up 21 - 18. Raiders fail on 4th down and all SD has to do is run out the clock. But Oakland has 3 time outs so SD needs a first down. Of course on second down LT breaks a 42 yard TD run to give SD the cover.

                      So so so so fvcking infuriating I don't care how many times this happens there is no way to get used to it and there is no way to lessen the pain, at all.

                      Sorry, had to vent... at least I locked up a winning week.
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                      • ZBOIZ
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-22-08
                        • 21464

                        #12
                        USCKINGSFAN 7-4 is a great day! You should be proud because the NFL is the hardest sport to cap and to say u capped 11 games you did a hell of a job!

                        Congrats!
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                        • VegasDave
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                          • 01-03-07
                          • 8056

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                          USCKINGSFAN 7-4 is a great day! You should be proud because the NFL is the hardest sport to cap and to say u capped 11 games you did a hell of a job!

                          Congrats!
                          Thanks Zboiz!

                          I'm really glad and if Phi -3 or Pit -5 hit, I'll have an 8 - 5 Sunday which I'll be very happy with.

                          I just hate losing games I'm on the right side on. Some games are coinflips that go either way. I was on the WRONG side of Arizona and I'm okay with that. I was on the wrong side of GB, thats okay too.

                          I shouldn't be complaining - I've gotten some bullshit covers my way too, of course. It just doesn't make it hurt less when you are on the wrong end.

                          In any case thanks for the positive words
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                          • VegasDave
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                            • 01-03-07
                            • 8056

                            #14
                            Philly can't punch it in from half a yard out to get me a push
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                            • VegasDave
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                              • 01-03-07
                              • 8056

                              #15
                              Pittsburgh -5 = 8 - 5 week
                              Baltimore +5 = 7 - 6 week

                              Would loooove to grab 3 games over .500, lets go Pittsburgh!
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                              • VegasDave
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-03-07
                                • 8056

                                #16
                                So predictable. Every time I have the opportunity for a nice week I lose my last few games to bring it back down to a coinflip.
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                                • Nicky Santoro
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-08-08
                                  • 16103

                                  #17
                                  usky, you know i like you, and i think you're a nice guy, but what are you trying to prove here? you are 23-23 ATS coming into this week.. you are now 7-6 this week.. you are now a total of 30-29 on the year. usky, don't you understand that no matter what, everyone will always hover around the .500 mark for the year and for their career in NFL.. usky, the NFL is a coin toss and no matter how smart you are, you will NEVER hit 55% in NFL... you will ALWAYS be very close to .500 over the long haul.. NFL is IMPOSSIBLE to predict.. these lines are too sharp.. after 1000 games, you will be 500-500. trust me usky.. save your time, usky..

                                  USKY, NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLIPPING 200 COIN FLIPS OR BETTING 200 GAMES FOR A FULL NFL SEASON.. THE RESULT WILL BE THE SAME.

                                  YOU CANNOT OUTSMART THESE LINESMAKERS.. DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN THEM USKY????
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                                  • VegasDave
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-03-07
                                    • 8056

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
                                    usky, you know i like you, and i think you're a nice guy, but what are you trying to prove here? you are 23-23 ATS coming into this week.. you are now 7-6 this week.. you are now a total of 30-29 on the year. usky, don't you understand that no matter what, everyone will always hover around the .500 mark for the year and for their career in NFL.. usky, the NFL is a coin toss and no matter how smart you are, you will NEVER hit 55% in NFL... you will ALWAYS be very close to .500 over the long haul.. NFL is IMPOSSIBLE to predict.. these lines are too sharp.. after 1000 games, you will be 500-500. trust me usky.. save your time, usky..

                                    USKY, NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLIPPING 200 COIN FLIPS OR BETTING 200 GAMES FOR A FULL NFL SEASON.. THE RESULT WILL BE THE SAME.

                                    YOU CANNOT OUTSMART THESE LINESMAKERS.. DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN THEM USKY????
                                    You are right man, I probably am wasting my time.

                                    In fact, I was just thinking of starting a thread asking people if I should stop making videos and doing write ups. After all, who gives a shit about a person's opinion who is no better then a coin flip?

                                    Its a personal struggle I always have, whether I should just quit. Then I get posts like yours that swing my pendulum towards yes, I should. Then for some reason there are people who like me and my opinions and say positive things, and it encourages me.

                                    But you know what Nicky? The season's not over yet. Yes, I'm .500 and I'm very frustrated about that, but I could be under .500, too. If I pick more winners then losers down the stretch, it just might be a worthwhile season.

                                    Am I hurting anyone by trying?
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                                    • accuscoresucks
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-03-07
                                      • 7160

                                      #19
                                      no keep up the great work i think videos would be easier and less time than write ups

                                      what do you think of my upcoming weeks plays in ncaaf,nfl

                                      alot of people say to many favs but i disagree
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                                      • Nicky Santoro
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-08-08
                                        • 16103

                                        #20
                                        No man, pls dont quit. this is good what you do.. but what i am saying is.. your write ups are great and you have so much good info and if i didnt know anythign about sports gambling, i'd think you make 4 million a year gambling.. your info is spot on, but that's just it.. even with all that great info you have.. it's still a struggle to stay at .500.. not because you suck.. but because these linesmakers have already applied all your info into the line.. which makes everyone's picks at exactly 50-50.. no matter how much great info the bettor has, just like you..
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                                        • VegasDave
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                                          • 01-03-07
                                          • 8056

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by accuscoresucks
                                          no keep up the great work i think videos would be easier and less time than write ups

                                          what do you think of my upcoming weeks plays in ncaaf,nfl

                                          alot of people say to many favs but i disagree
                                          I've been doing my writeups for my newsletter for 4 years now, no sense in stopping now

                                          I love it man and am giving some of the games you picked a good look. I think there are some soft lines on faves this week because everyone is in upset mode... there will be some covers for sure.

                                          Definitely think I'll be on Texas Tech.
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                                          • gm2022girl
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 08-17-08
                                            • 447

                                            #22
                                            GJ this week USC!
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                                            • VegasDave
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-03-07
                                              • 8056

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Nicky Santauro
                                              No man, pls dont quit. this is good what you do.. but what i am saying is.. your write ups are great and you have so much good info and if i didnt know anythign about sports gambling, i'd think you make 4 million a year gambling.. your info is spot on, but that's just it.. even with all that great info you have.. it's still a struggle to stay at .500.. not because you suck.. but because these linesmakers have already applied all your info into the line.. which makes everyone's picks at exactly 50-50.. no matter how much great info the bettor has, just like you..
                                              Oh we are 100% on the same page here buddy... it is sick how all this info gets you nowhere. But I'm still naive enough to believe that "maybe someday...", you know? I'm only 22 remember... when I've been getting pounded for 15, 20 more years, I'm sure I'll be telling some idealistic young kid the same thing you're telling me now.
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                                              • accuscoresucks
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-03-07
                                                • 7160

                                                #24
                                                i do to usc if you do the work on my picks they all should be blowouts and spreads under 10 i think i have value this is where i see the linesman get it wrong

                                                only iffy one i have is ball state but its to late to back out and im not hedging it just going to ride it out
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                                                • VegasDave
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                                                  • 01-03-07
                                                  • 8056

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by accuscoresucks
                                                  i do to usc if you do the work on my picks they all should be blowouts and spreads under 10 i think i have value this is where i see the linesman get it wrong

                                                  only iffy one i have is ball state but its to late to back out and im not hedging it just going to ride it out
                                                  Yeah Ball State was the iffy one I noticed on your sheet too. Dante Love's loss may show a bit more on the road. We'll see though.

                                                  Its a tough week for me to cap... lots of games I like, but also lots of room for backdoor covers.

                                                  I'll narrow it down tonight though... gotta sweat out this Pittsburgh game first.
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                                                  • ZBOIZ
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-22-08
                                                    • 21464

                                                    #26
                                                    How about everybody on sbr make a post were we put our heads together and select NFL plays!!
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                                                    • VegasDave
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-03-07
                                                      • 8056

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                      How about everybody on sbr make a post were we put our heads together and select NFL plays!!
                                                      Haha, wish it were so simple.

                                                      Its funny how all the jerks around here call people names and stuff when they lose or make a pick they disagree with...

                                                      There is always a solid argument for both sides.
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                                                      • VegasDave
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-03-07
                                                        • 8056

                                                        #28
                                                        Unreal... they come all the way back and go up 7 to get my hopes up and then they give up on defense. Unreal.
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                                                        • ZBOIZ
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 06-22-08
                                                          • 21464

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by usckingsfan31
                                                          Haha, wish it were so simple.

                                                          Its funny how all the jerks around here call people names and stuff when they lose or make a pick they disagree with...

                                                          There is always a solid argument for both sides.
                                                          Man continue to make your picks! I know you hear to help people make decisions and thats fine. They talk about everyone thats doing something right but you have to continue doing what you do. Because there are people on here that count on your picks.

                                                          Like I always say FUK the HATERS!!!
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                                                          • VegasDave
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-03-07
                                                            • 8056

                                                            #30
                                                            Come on Pittsburgh... after the way Oakland +8.5 lost I deserve this one!
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                                                            • accuscoresucks
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-03-07
                                                              • 7160

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                              How about everybody on sbr make a post were we put our heads together and select NFL plays!!

                                                              good idea but honestly for the most part im really not much of a socialist but i will help anyway i can to help a fellow out
                                                              quick overveiw on my nfl next weeks picks
                                                              chi/off rank 15th/deff rank 18th
                                                              @
                                                              det/off 22nd/deff 31rst
                                                              pick chi -3



                                                              sea/off 12th/deff 16th
                                                              @
                                                              nyg/off 3rd/deff 6th
                                                              pick nyg -7


                                                              wsh/off 14th/deff 13th
                                                              @
                                                              phi/off 6th/deff 4th
                                                              pick phi -6.5
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                                                              • ZBOIZ
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-22-08
                                                                • 21464

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by accuscoresucks
                                                                good idea but honestly for the most part im really not much of a socialist but i will help anyway i can to help a fellow out
                                                                quick overveiw on my nfl next weeks picks
                                                                chi/off rank 15th/deff rank 18th
                                                                @
                                                                det/off 22nd/deff 31rst
                                                                pick chi -3



                                                                sea/off 12th/deff 16th
                                                                @
                                                                nyg/off 3rd/deff 6th
                                                                pick nyg -7


                                                                wsh/off 14th/deff 13th
                                                                @
                                                                phi/off 6th/deff 4th
                                                                pick phi -6.5
                                                                Lets start a thread
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                                                                • accuscoresucks
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-03-07
                                                                  • 7160

                                                                  #33
                                                                  lol
                                                                  as long as a few guys like it fine by me Z

                                                                  this usc guy puts more in than i do at sbr and thus deserves the attention,ive tried but to no evail if you ever have a question just ask and i will help
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                                                                  • VegasDave
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-03-07
                                                                    • 8056

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Oakland game - 18 - 18 with just 2 mins and change to go. Sproles, who hadn't had a good return all day, now breaks it to the Raiders 35. So what would have been a clock eating game winning drive now just puts the Chargers up 21 - 18. Raiders fail on 4th down and all SD has to do is run out the clock. But Oakland has 3 time outs so SD needs a first down. Of course on second down LT breaks a 42 yard TD run to give SD the cover.

                                                                    Philadelphia game - Can't punch it in 2nd and 1 on the 1 yard line 3 straight plays to fail to get me a push.

                                                                    Pittsburgh game - Don't show up until the second half, GET THE 20 - 13 lead with all the momentum crowd going nuts, rookie QB charges all the way down the field for a game tying TD.

                                                                    I'm sorry, I know I complain way too much and no one wants to hear me bitch. It just hurts really really bad.
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