Jojo Reyes might as well put in an app. to be an SBR mod

[bettilimbroke999]

This dude simply cannot pitch, not sure where they got this kid from but he fukin sucks, pitching to an 8 ERA and 0-7 in his last 11 starts (of which all 11 were losses) and has only gone a full 5 in 4 of those 11 starts, I mean at what point do you just say sorry kid you have no fukin talent. I mean they say every fukin start this is Reyes last chance to impress Bobby Cox, I mean fuk if I could pitch 12 games and get 1 win and call it impressive I'd like to take my spot in the Braves rotation, fact is this kid CANNOT FUKIN PITCH! Even Nippert for the Rangers occasionally pitches well, Reyes simply pitches terrible 11 out of 11 games and just says well maybe next time

[Doc JS]

The Braves suck. It's not like they're scoring a ton of runs or playing great defense to bail JoJo out on the night when he doesn't pitch well (which admittedly has been most nights). The kid is young. It takes some pitchers a while to "figure it out" at the major league level.

A short history lesson...a long time ago the Braves sucked. This was in the days before the 14 straight division titles. They brought up two pitchers. One was a farm hand. The other was acquired in a trade with the Detroit Tigers for Doyle Alexander. Neither was very good in their first years in the majors.

Farm Hand
1987 - 2 wins 4 losses ERA 5.54
1988 - 7 wins 17 losses ERA 4.56

Acquited from Detroit
1988 - 2 wins 7 losses ERA 5.48

If you just look at those numbers, you'd think neither of these guys could pitch...Of course, we're talking about Tom Glavine and John Smoltz both of whom are going to the HOF.

After his outing tonight JoJo has an ERA of 5.81. That looks a whole lot like the ERA's of Smoltz and Glavine in their early days, doens't it?

Now, I have no way of knowing if JoJo is going to develop into a quality major league pitcher or not....but to decide the kid can't pitch based on this year...well, history has shown us how wrong that can be sometimes, hasn't it?

Doc

[bettilimbroke999]

That is crazy reverse logic, that means that if a pitcher pitches terrible to start he's got a better chance of being a HOF than if he comes out and pitches like Cy Young potential Lincecum, what you are failing to realize is that Reyes has pitched so bad he will in all likelihood not get a 2009 season. You have to show SOMETHING (at least demonstrate some talent for controlling your pitches at some point during the season which he has not).

If a pitcher cant make it 5 full innings at least half the time and he has a record of 1-7 with what was a fairly good offense before they traded Texeira a month ago, hell Chipper has the highest batting avg in the NL. I disagree with you on your logic here, it fails to account for the fact that he has a 7 ERA over his last 12 starts and has disappointed and pissed off his pitching coach and Cox to know end b/c over half the starts they have to dran their bullpen b/c most of the time Reyes cant make it over 3 innings and we've seen the god awful bullpen Cox has, he depends heavily on starters to go the distance, which Reyes has so far been unable to do all season. I could go on the mound and pitch terrible and have 11 straight losses, does that mean I'm the next Glavine?

[Doc JS]

That is crazy reverse logic, that means that if a pitcher pitches terrible to start he's got a better chance of being a HOF than if he comes out and pitches like Cy Young potential Lincecum, what you are failing to realize is that Reyes has pitched so bad he will in all likelihood not get a 2009 season. You have to show SOMETHING (at least demonstrate some talent for controlling your pitches at some point during the season which he has not).

If a pitcher cant make it 5 full innings at least half the time and he has a record of 1-7 with what was a fairly good offense before they traded Texeira a month ago, hell Chipper has the highest batting avg in the NL. I disagree with you on your logic here, it fails to account for the fact that he has a 7 ERA over his last 12 starts and has disappointed and pissed off his pitching coach and Cox to know end b/c over half the starts they have to dran their bullpen b/c most of the time Reyes cant make it over 3 innings and we've seen the god awful bullpen Cox has, he depends heavily on starters to go the distance, which Reyes has so far been unable to do all season. I could go on the mound and pitch terrible and have 11 straight losses, does that mean I'm the next Glavine?

That's not what I said...I said that you can't always judge a young pitcher on his first year in the majors...I pointed out that Reyes' ERA is on par with the ERA of two other pitchers who struggled in their early years, as well...with YOUR logic, you'd have cut Sandy Koufax because he had a hard time throwing strikes early in his career.

Reyes is a big guy, throws hard enough and is left handed...if you don't think he's going to be on a major league roster next year, you are mistaken...

Doc

[treece]

This thread jinxed the Phillies tonight.

[sickler]

What's the connection to not being able to pitch and being an SBR mod?

[pavyracer]

What's the connection to not being able to pitch and being an SBR mod?

How many SBR mods do you know that can pitch in the majors and can get an out?

[sickler]

How many SBR mods do you know that can pitch in the majors and can get an out?

Yeah, every other occupation in the universe is chalk full of pitching prospects.

[bettilimbroke999]

What's the connection to not being able to pitch and being an SBR mod?

Joke prolly went over youre head, not surprising. Being a mod does not generally pay what MLB starting pitchers make

[bettilimbroke999]

That's not what I said...I said that you can't always judge a young pitcher on his first year in the majors...I pointed out that Reyes' ERA is on par with the ERA of two other pitchers who struggled in their early years, as well...with YOUR logic, you'd have cut Sandy Koufax because he had a hard time throwing strikes early in his career.

Reyes is a big guy, throws hard enough and is left handed...if you don't think he's going to be on a major league roster next year, you are mistaken...

Doc

I hope theres a lot of demand for 4-13 pitchers with 6 ERAs. Since me and Sandy Koufax would both start off pitching like shit in our first years, I think they need to give me a few years to try to work out the kinks and pay me a half mil a year in the meantime. I like your logic, but my logic is what the Braves are using right now, Cox fukin hates the kid, if every other game you got pulled in the 3rd inning how long do you think they are going to give you to show you've got control, 5 years? Possibly bouncing between triple-A and majors at some dump club next year and then selling hot dogs in the stands for the 2010 season, Reyes sucks!

[Willie Bee]

Just breaks my heart to see Bobby Cox and Atlanta struggling.

[SBR Lou]

"Jojo Reyes might as well put in an app. to be an SBR mod"

What- do you think SBR hires any ole' bum to be a mod?

[bettilimbroke999]

"Jojo Reyes might as well put in an app. to be an SBR mod"

What- do you think SBR hires any ole' bum to be a mod?