Serious question about the UF and Louisville line and how it was made.

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  • zoo youk
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-23-11
    • 10701

    #1
    Serious question about the UF and Louisville line and how it was made.
    i like every else thought the Cards would open a 1 2 point fav or PK at worst. confused about them being the under dog considering the rum they are on and just blasted MSU while Gators have had fairly light competition. so my question is this, most bookmakers know squares like to think like this......"well loisville barely beat marquette in the big east champ game and florida just handled quette by DD so surely they can beat louisville" do u guys think this was a big factor into setting the line or no they do not consider these things at all?
  • zoo youk
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-23-11
    • 10701

    #2
    sorry for typos..typing on tablet since the upgrade has been shitty. driving me bonkers.
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    • Saunders FTW
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-10-08
      • 986

      #3
      The golden rule in sports gambling. If something doesn't make sense, bet it
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      • k13
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-16-10
        • 18104

        #4
        Are you saying MSU is better than Marquette?

        Either way, quick look at something like sagarin ratings has Florida 89.57 and Louisville 88.37

        I'm sure Kenpom has Florida rated higher as well.

        Vegas uses their own power ratings. There's no trap line, action is split. You are only trapping yourself.
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        • zoo youk
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-23-11
          • 10701

          #5
          im locked in on florida anyway. never planned on betting louisville. i just thiught for sure ville would be the fav so started pondering amd threw out the question
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          • dice
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-28-09
            • 669

            #6
            Vegas tries to get equal action. That's it. During the tournament, if one team is likely a huge public favorite, they may start at -8. If both teams are evenly matched based on public perception they may pick one team with a slight edge and start at -2. Don't read into how the lines are decided for the the tournament; it will drive you crazy!
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            • convick
              SBR MVP
              • 11-03-11
              • 3954

              #7
              No way should Ville be favored. Youll see why tonight. (today, evening, whatever time they play)
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              • zoo youk
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-23-11
                • 10701

                #8
                k13, qhat i was getting at was most squares like to have a thought process of looking at past games and look at in this way "in the beast champ game ville played a tough game agaimst quette and juat barely cae out on top, now florida just beat quette by dd so they cqn surely beat ville"

                alot of ppl tend to think like that so was curious if these inesmakers factor that in
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                • zoo youk
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-23-11
                  • 10701

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dice
                  Vegas tries to get equal action. That's it. During the tournament, if one team is likely a huge public favorite, they may start at -8. If both teams are evenly matched based on public perception they may pick one team with a slight edge and start at -2. Don't read into how the lines are decided for the the tournament; it will drive you crazy!
                  if they wanted equal action i highly doubt they would have ville a dog as they are a public darling right now.
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                  • agendaman
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-01-11
                    • 3733

                    #10
                    fla. was made fav. for 1 reason only /they will win and cover /analyze dont over analyze / finally hedge somewhere
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      K13 nailed it, Pomeroy has Florida -1 also
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                      • dice
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-28-09
                        • 669

                        #12
                        Like I said. Don't read into this line. Florida is a 7 seed and Louisville is a 4 seed. It's an even matchup.
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                        • dice
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-28-09
                          • 669

                          #13
                          Originally posted by agendaman
                          fla. was made fav. for 1 reason only /they will win and cover /analyze dont over analyze / finally hedge somewhere
                          Same scenario when Iowa State beat Connecticut. Be careful.
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                          • warriorfan707
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-29-08
                            • 13698

                            #14
                            Originally posted by agendaman
                            fla. was made fav. for 1 reason only /they will win and cover /analyze dont over analyze / finally hedge somewhere
                            This post is really making me question if I want to slam Florida or not.
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                            • Louisvillekid1
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-17-07
                              • 52143

                              #15
                              Originally posted by zoo youk
                              i like every else thought the Cards would open a 1 2 point fav or PK at worst. confused about them being the under dog considering the rum they are on and just blasted MSU while Gators have had fairly light competition. so my question is this, most bookmakers know squares like to think like this......"well loisville barely beat marquette in the big east champ game and florida just handled quette by DD so surely they can beat louisville" do u guys think this was a big factor into setting the line or no they do not consider these things at all?

                              WE rolled Marq in the BE tournament and wasn't championship game...

                              Game was never in doubt...
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                              • t-wizzle
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-18-09
                                • 38099

                                #16
                                This line has me thinking Florida wins but no way am i betting against Louisville right now.
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                                • Louisvillekid1
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-17-07
                                  • 52143

                                  #17
                                  Just ride the train boys, don't overthink it...

                                  fukk vegas and their piece of shit line...

                                  I'll say it again, WE GOT THIS!!!
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                                  • zoo youk
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-23-11
                                    • 10701

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                    WE rolled Marq in the BE tournament and wasn't championship game...

                                    Game was never in doubt...
                                    o shit. totally brings a moot point than lol. they played BearCats thats right I Forgot. well threads dead now.
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                                    • zoo youk
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-23-11
                                      • 10701

                                      #19
                                      Louikidd, i honestly dont think Geing is going to be able to match up with Beal...BB should shit all over him and put him into foul trouble early.
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                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-17-07
                                        • 52143

                                        #20
                                        your thought process is still right...

                                        I just think we have the better team, better coach, better pg, better center...

                                        And we're hott...
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                                        • chico2663
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 09-02-10
                                          • 36915

                                          #21
                                          problem is than you have to deal with chene
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                                          • BettingWizard
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-28-09
                                            • 6522

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                            Just ride the train boys, don't overthink it...

                                            fukk vegas and their piece of shit line...

                                            I'll say it again, WE GOT THIS!!!
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                                            • zoo youk
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-23-11
                                              • 10701

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                              your thought process is still right...

                                              I just think we have the better team, better coach, better pg, better center...

                                              And we're hott...
                                              meant to say Young against Geing..not Beal
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                                              • zoo youk
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-23-11
                                                • 10701

                                                #24
                                                LKID...no doubt you guys are hot.....BUT only on the defensive side of the ball. its been a real struggle for you guys to get baskets. simply put I dont think just defense is going to win this game ( and I know thats a bad statement to make) but Florida has to many weapons to put the ball in the hoop while Ville can really struggle at times to run their half court offense.
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                                                • PR9
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-30-11
                                                  • 2813

                                                  #25
                                                  Young sucks
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                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                    • 52143

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by zoo youk
                                                    LKID...no doubt you guys are hot.....BUT only on the defensive side of the ball. its been a real struggle for you guys to get baskets. simply put I dont think defense is going to win this game ( and I know thats a bad statement to make) but Florida is going to be able to out score your boys IMO.
                                                    I think this game will be like the louisville/marq game in the BE Tournament...

                                                    When we can get out and run we can score just fine... Our offense has gone through scoring droughts but not during this 7 game winning streak... When you play cuse/usf/new mex/mich st/ you simply can't run against them...

                                                    Here's the biggest key for me in this game that people are overlooking...

                                                    They have guards that should be able to break our press for the most part, however it's going to wear them down and take out their legs... Which will effect their 3 point shooting later in the game... We are holding opponents to 28% from deep since the start of the BE Tourney and that's a big reason why...

                                                    Plus Florida's defense is getting way too much credit... I mean come on, Virginia? Norfolk?

                                                    I have great respect for their shooters and love patric young inside, my only worry is once again dieng's foul trouble... because if we extend our matchup zone to the nba line its going to allow for their guards to penetrate an unprotected deing...

                                                    With that being said the gators have a tendency to settle for the 3, and with our inside presence (if we don't get into foul trouble) should be a very effective combination...

                                                    We've been playing mostly man lately, over 80% last game....

                                                    Live by the 3, die by the 3...

                                                    Im really starting to like the over for the fact that every 3 that miss 7/27 last game, leads to a long rebound and allows us to get out in transition where we are at our best...
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                                                    • zoo youk
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-23-11
                                                      • 10701

                                                      #27
                                                      im realy leaning towards the over as well
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                                                      • thetrinity
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-25-11
                                                        • 22430

                                                        #28
                                                        small lean to florida hard game to bet IMO
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                                                        • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-17-09
                                                          • 11939

                                                          #29
                                                          Louisville ML for me. Thought i'd have to be laying some sort of juice before the lines came out, but I'm satisfied getting the Cards at +105.

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                                                          • crispix
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 03-20-12
                                                            • 89

                                                            #30
                                                            ....Can never trust a fanatic when it comes to the matters of wagering. Biased analysis' are not the way to go.


                                                            I think Florida wins SU, but given L'ville's level of play recently, it's too hard to call. I'm staying away from this one, but that's me. GL
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                                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-17-07
                                                              • 52143

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crispix
                                                              ....Can never trust a fanatic when it comes to the matters of wagering. Biased analysis' are not the way to go.


                                                              I think Florida wins SU, but given L'ville's level of play recently, it's too hard to call. I'm staying away from this one, but that's me. GL
                                                              7-0 so far...
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                                                              • zoo youk
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-23-11
                                                                • 10701

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by zoo youk
                                                                LKID...no doubt you guys are hot.....BUT only on the defensive side of the ball. its been a real struggle for you guys to get baskets. simply put I dont think just defense is going to win this game ( and I know thats a bad statement to make) but Florida has to many weapons to put the ball in the hoop while Ville can really struggle at times to run their half court offense.
                                                                villle cant keep up so far....
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                                                                • No coincidences
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                                  • 76300

                                                                  #33
                                                                  66% of the public took Louisville ML.
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                                                                  • zoo youk
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-23-11
                                                                    • 10701

                                                                    #34
                                                                    what a freaking run! and without Siva. so glad i laid off a side lol
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