Is there any way the Colts lose tomorrow?

accuscoresucks · 09-20-08, 10:45 PM

no nfl for me on sunday

element1286 · 09-20-08, 10:45 PM

On the Colts -4.5.

Panic · 09-20-08, 10:45 PM

Yes. They should have lost last week. Not gonna play this game, but if I did, I would be on the Jags.

rjt721 · 09-20-08, 10:47 PM

It's the NFL. Who the fuck knows?

pavyracer · 09-20-08, 10:48 PM

just remember that it will be hard for last year's AFC finalists to start 0-3 this season. Colts only played one quarter last week for the win and were outplayed in both of their games. If you want a ML take Buffalo and bet more money on it.

element1286 · 09-20-08, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Panic

Yes. They should have lost last week. Not gonna play this game, but if I did, I would be on the Jags.

Never been sold on the Jags, especially with the inconsistencies on the o-line. If it Garrard has to to throw to win they got no shot. I know Sanders is out, and he is their run stopper, but I will take my chances with a Colts team that had a nice comeback win last week.

The key to the game is how long the Colts can hold off the Jags running attack. The Colts know the Jags have to run the ball to win the game, so if the Colts can hold off the Jags rushing attack the first few drives, and put some points on the board when they have the ball, the Colts will have real good shot at covering.

Panic · 09-20-08, 10:55 PM

Element-the Jags always play the Colts tough. I was on the Colts last week and got very fortunate to get a win. Peyton doesnt look like himself. The team looks slow. If the Jags defense is as ferocious as they had been in past meetings between the 2, it will be a long day for Peyton.

element1286 · 09-20-08, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Panic

Element-the Jags always play the Colts tough. I was on the Colts last week and got very fortunate to get a win. Peyton doesnt look like himself. The team looks slow. If the Jags defense is as ferocious as they had been in past meetings between the 2, it will be a long day for Peyton.

Very possible.

Panic · 09-20-08, 11:02 PM

GL to you, Element and all the other Colt backers.

element1286 · 09-20-08, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Panic

GL to you, Element and all the other Colt backers.

Thanks, gl on your plays.

flyingillini · 09-20-08, 11:05 PM

I like the Colts ML but it wouldn't surprise me if they lost.

SBR Lou · 09-20-08, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Panic

GL to you, Element and all the other Colt backers.

Still plenty room on the bandwagon for you bud. Take a seat.

ryanXL977 · 09-20-08, 11:09 PM

i am taking jax ml tmrw
i know they havent been good but the colts havent either
should be a tight game

keystonekid · 09-20-08, 11:14 PM

I've got Indy only winning by 1 pt. So, it is possible. Go for it and good luck.

khaliagent · 09-20-08, 11:15 PM

colts will not lose
manning will have a a great game and so will the defense

jjgold · 09-20-08, 11:43 PM

Jacksonville is a solid team, Indy nothing special and banged up

Take the points

treece · 09-21-08, 12:45 AM

Jags plus the points is the right play. Jags need a win or their season is pretty much over. Peyton playing like sht and no Bob Sanders, Colts might win by 3 or 4 points if they're lucky.

McBa1n · 09-21-08, 06:05 AM

The Jags RBs are not 100%, the line is down 3 starters (the 3 backups are due to be exposed at some point - it's just the Colts don't have the personnel to exploit them).

I think the Jags will be able to run the ball a bit - but I'm more concerned about their big play ability, which has saved their ass many times and kept them in games versus the Colts. Jones Drew's ankle is hurting and Freddie T is knicked up - certainly not a recipe for victory.

The Jags can manage ballgames and stay close - which makes the points inviting.
Jeff Saturday is back as is Dallas Clark. Both are not 100%. The Colts rushing attack is NOWHERE where it was the past 2 years - where they were essentially a 'run first' type of ballclub. Manning can win games, yes, but they are really struggling in their ground game. Saturday being back will help. Further - the Colts are also struggling in their protection. Manning has to get the ball out quick, keeping explosive plays to a minimum.

I think this game is won/lost with the Jags secondary and their ability to pick some balls off - which they will have to do. Peyton doesn't throw many picks, so - it's going to be tough. I like the Colts in this regard - but the Jags will be able to pressure Manning, although, it concerns me how vanilla their defensive scheme has been (it's really been a base D most of the time).

You already know what you're going to get with the Jag's offense. If it's possible, their receiving corps are worse this year - and they've easily been the worst in the NFL for a couple of years now - actually since Jimmy Smith retired. Garrard has a lot of pressure on his shoulders every week and win/lose, he's usually in the game - even though he has not been very successful this season, forcing some throws because his receivers can't get any seperation.

I really think it's a tight game - Indy likely winning by 4-7 points. It's a no play for me outside of a 10 pointer (took the jags, even though I really wish I had Indy - the Jags are not capable of blowing out the Colts right now).

LT Profits · 09-21-08, 06:11 AM

Colts are far from a sure thing on ML. I like Jags + the points because I don't think Indy will be able to stop Jax running game with Sanders out. Heck, they never did stop either AP or Chester Taylor last week, and the Vikings would have won that game of they didn't inexplicably have Jackson passing (ARGH!) in the fourth quarter. As long as the Jags commit to the run and stick to it, they could potentially dominate Time of Possession here. Advantage Underdog.

SBR Lou · 09-21-08, 09:59 AM

With Clark and Saturday back I think Indy will have enough in the tank to breeze past Jax. Jax o-line is completely dismantled and riddled with injury, Garrard has not played well at all and whose to say he suddenly rights the ship in Indy where they've lost the last how many of games played?

Fishhead · 09-21-08, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by CrazyL

With Clark and Saturday back I think Indy will have enough in the tank to breeze past Jax. Jax o-line is completely dismantled and riddled with injury, Garrard has not played well at all and whose to say he suddenly rights the ship in Indy where they've lost the last how many of games played?

With Clark and Saturday back, coupled with the loss of Sanders defensively...........take a look at the OVER.

SBR Lou · 09-21-08, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

With Clark and Saturday back, coupled with the loss of Sanders defensively...........take a look at the OVER.

That crossed my mind, but Jax can't win in a shootout. Only way they could is having Jones Drew and Taylor explode like they did against Indy in that rout a season or so ago, but their o-line is so messed up and Garrard out of form I don't see them keeping pace if Indy plays more like Indy.

LT Profits · 09-21-08, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by CrazyL

With Clark and Saturday back I think Indy will have enough in the tank to breeze past Jax. Jax o-line is completely dismantled and riddled with injury, Garrard has not played well at all and whose to say he suddenly rights the ship in Indy where they've lost the last how many of games played?

Um, that doesn't say anything about the Colts inability to stop the run.

The Jags will run the ball all day just like the Vikings should have kept doing, and last I checked, it is hard for a team to score when their offense is on the sidelines.

I do lean to the Under using the very same logic, but I think the safest play here is just taking the points.

element1286 · 09-21-08, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Um, that doesn't say anything about the Colts inability to stop the run.

The Jags will run the ball all day just like the Vikings should have kept doing, and last I checked, it is hard for a team to score when their offense is on the sidelines.

I do lean to the Under using the very same logic, but I think the safest play here is just taking the points.

The Jags beat up offensive line makes me think twice that they are a guarantee to run the ball. Plus the fact the Colts know they have to run the ball, if they stop it on the first few drives, and the Colts build a lead, they should cover.

SBR_John · 09-21-08, 10:20 AM

I love the Jags, my best bet. Both teams are out of sync. I like a tight game here. The 4.5 points is 3 too many. Jags get it done.

SSLP · 09-21-08, 10:23 AM

I agree with SBR Johnny

Colts are missing
Bob Sanders
Tony Ugoh
Jeff Saturday
Dallas Clark

And the Jags got a chip over their shoulder great plays Jacksonville +4

SBR Lou · 09-21-08, 10:30 AM

Looks like I can't find a soul to agree with me here.

Starting to think you guys might be onto something, but I will stick with my gut here and be the odd man out.

element1286 · 09-21-08, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by CrazyL

Looks like I can't find a soul to agree with me here.

Starting to think you guys might be onto something, but I will stick with my gut here and be the odd man out.

I with Crazyl, although there is always a way they can lose, but I think it is a good play.

laxdjock · 09-21-08, 10:36 AM

If Indy gets out early....it's over. The problem with playing JAX is that they seem to hang close against Indy. I have Indy -5, as I bet early on thinking people wouldn't be as high on JAX, go figure.

Italia_NYC · 09-21-08, 10:36 AM

I think the safe play here is the Under, IMO.

arpeggiomeister · 09-21-08, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by CrazyL

Looks like I can't find a soul to agree with me here.

Starting to think you guys might be onto something, but I will stick with my gut here and be the odd man out.

I always say trust your instincts. Sometimes all the research and statistics just can't match a good old fashion gut feeling. Good luck.

Mr Handicapable · 09-21-08, 10:59 AM

Didn't check the numbers but the Colts did slow down AP in the 2nd half even after Sanders went out plus their O-line is 10X better than the injured/shot Jags O-line! Jax has no WRs to stretch the field plus the Colts are supposed to get Clark/Saturday back. Colts opponents so far have blitzed the middle repeatedly and w/Clark in the mix that won't happen because he gets behind the LBs down the middle so well! If Clark/Sat. play....Colts win by 7+

ryanXL977 · 09-21-08, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

i am taking jax ml tmrw
i know they havent been good but the colts havent either
should be a tight game

colts arent the team they used to be

pavyracer · 09-21-08, 05:51 PM

2:00 min left Colts on 4th down