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  • probettor1
    SBR MVP
    • 04-22-11
    • 1985

    #1
    Why is USA going down so fast? My last post.
    Taxes?: There are always being taxes
    Medicare?: There has always been medicare and many countries like canada have free health care
    Real Estate Collapse?: In fact this is good, having to pay 2000 dollars of morgage makes cost of living too expensive, it force high salaries and consequently jobs going abroad looking for cheaper salarias.
    So what is the problem?
    The lost of freedom and equal rights in USA. If you have a bussiness you have to pay minimum salary, workeres compensation, health insurance, liability insurance ...., then some mother fucker go to china pays nothing for the work force, come back and sell the same thing you sell for half the price it cost you. Is that fair? americans losing their job on the basis of not having equal right, in the basis of having to compete with people who operate in a complete different basis.

    This is my good bye to the forum, my respect to the owners, who are very respectul of the freedom of speech, I love their policy, but I'm going nowhere here. Good luck. Love America.
  • k13
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-16-10
    • 18104

    #2
    four letters....
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    • itchypickle
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-05-09
      • 21452

      #3
      Prob you're correct on a few of the points.
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      • SBR_John
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-12-05
        • 16471

        #4
        What made America great was the constitution that laid out a framework of small government and personal freedom. It's sadly ironic that America has become the state it fought to escape. Eventually when we hit bottom like the Jimmy Carter era a leader will emerge to roll back the socialism and thirst to spend borrowed money. Until then we will endure a stagnant economy where working people are forced to dream about holding onto their job instead of prospering.
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        • SEAHAWKHARRY
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 11-29-07
          • 26068

          #5
          Never fukkin heard of ya pal
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          • marcojuiceman
            SBR MVP
            • 05-25-11
            • 2870

            #6
            Originally posted by SBR_John
            What made America great was the constitution that laid out a framework of small government and personal freedom. It's sadly ironic that America has become the state it fought to escape. Eventually when we hit bottom like the Jimmy Carter era a leader will emerge to roll back the socialism and thirst to spend borrowed money. Until then we will endure a stagnant economy where working people are forced to dream about holding onto their job instead of prospering.
            maybe you need to be voting for Ron Paul
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            • marcojuiceman
              SBR MVP
              • 05-25-11
              • 2870

              #7
              Originally posted by probettor1
              Taxes?: There are always being taxes
              Medicare?: There has always been medicare and many countries like canada have free health care
              Real Estate Collapse?: In fact this is good, having to pay 2000 dollars of morgage makes cost of living too expensive, it force high salaries and consequently jobs going abroad looking for cheaper salarias.
              So what is the problem?
              The lost of freedom and equal rights in USA. If you have a bussiness you have to pay minimum salary, workeres compensation, health insurance, liability insurance ...., then some mother fucker go to china pays nothing for the work force, come back and sell the same thing you sell for half the price it cost you. Is that fair? americans losing their job on the basis of not having equal right, in the basis of having to compete with people who operate in a complete different basis.

              This is my good bye to the forum, my respect to the owners, who are very respectul of the freedom of speech, I love their policy, but I'm going nowhere here. Good luck. Love America.
              you forgot about the overseas spending and wars that cost us so much
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              • itchypickle
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-05-09
                • 21452

                #8


                Designed by geniuses.....run by idiots
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                • jarvol
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-13-10
                  • 6074

                  #9
                  There has always been taxes and Medicare?

                  Your ignorance doesn't translate into facts.
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                  • MiAMiEDDY
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-14-11
                    • 277

                    #10
                    Probet, ill give you the answer your looking for in one word for the sake of not complicating such a complicated subject...

                    POLITICS.
                    Or 4 words,
                    IT'S ALL ******* POLITICS
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                    • marcojuiceman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-25-11
                      • 2870

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jarvol
                      There has always been taxes and Medicare?

                      Your ignorance doesn't translate into facts.
                      The Income Tax is Unconstitutional maybe you need to read more.. Also there is no money in SS so i would like to keep what i earn
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 103435

                        #12
                        Canada doesn't have FREE health care. Where do people get this stuff?
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                        • d2bets
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 39995

                          #13
                          Originally posted by marcojuiceman
                          The Income Tax is Unconstitutional maybe you need to read more.. Also there is no money in SS so i would like to keep what i earn
                          Maybe you read too much. The income tax is obviously not unconstitutional. It is explicitly allowed.
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                          • nick86
                            Restricted User
                            • 04-27-11
                            • 632

                            #14
                            The answer is extremely EXTREMELY simple.

                            Overspending on military.
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                            • Mike Huntertz
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-19-09
                              • 11207

                              #15
                              Same as Greece.
                              Spend more than you make.
                              Sense of entitlement...let someone else pay.
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                              • DwightShrute
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-17-09
                                • 103435

                                #16
                                Originally posted by nick86
                                The answer is extremely EXTREMELY simple.

                                Overspending on military.
                                simply not true
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                                • The Kraken
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-25-11
                                  • 28918

                                  #17
                                  America is fine. We're down from we're we normally are but we will be fine. Guys are taking this opportunity to bash the USA to get their agenda out there while they can, see Forskin21.

                                  Every emerging country must make tough decisions in their future and will likely find themselves in similar situations.

                                  Having been all over the world for most of my life I will tell you there is nowhere I'd rather call home than bible belt usa.
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                                  • Emily_Haines
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-14-09
                                    • 15917

                                    #18
                                    the usa sucks
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                                    • The Kraken
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-25-11
                                      • 28918

                                      #19
                                      Whats that say about you that you choose to live here?
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                                      • Smoke
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-09-09
                                        • 48111

                                        #20
                                        We are stronger than ever

                                        Nobody can touch us



                                        Obama 2012
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                                        • d2bets
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 39995

                                          #21
                                          USA is not going down fast. Just right wing propaganda.
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                                          • brooks85
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 44709

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                            USA is not going down fast. Just right wing propaganda.
                                            wow i was laughing at the original poster's post but this right here is just a special kind of stupid
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                                            • DwightShrute
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-17-09
                                              • 103435

                                              #23
                                              USA #1? 40 Embarrassing Things That America Is The Best In The World At




                                              Is the USA still #1? Well, there are many things that America is still the best in the world at, but unfortunately a lot of those categories are nothing to be proud of. Once upon a time the United States was the greatest nation on earth, but now we are a nation that is in a horrific state of decline. Just consider a few of the embarrassing things that America leads the world in: obesity, crime, divorce, teen pregnancy, child abuse deaths and government debt. The statistics that you are about to read below are incredibly disturbing. Most people that write these kinds of articles about the decline of America hate this country. But that is not the case with me. I was born and raised in America and I love this nation deeply. It is time to realize that we will never be able to start fixing our problems until we take a really good look in the mirror and realize just how far we have fallen. America is not the country that it once was. America is a complete and total mess and just "tweaking" a few things here and there is not going to return this nation to its former glory. We have forgotten the things that once made us great, and if we do not return to them we will continue to fall apart as a nation.
                                              With that being said, the following are 40 embarrassing things that America is the best in the world at....
                                              #1 America has the highest incarceration rate and the largest total prison population in the entire world by a good margin.
                                              #2 There are more car thefts in the United States than anywhere else in the world by far.
                                              #3 Of all the major industrialized nations, America is the most obese. Mexico is #2.
                                              #4 The average American drinks more than 600 sodas a year - the most in the world.
                                              #5 U.S. corporations sell more fast food and more soda than anyone else in the world by a wide margin.
                                              #6 Nobody watches more television per week (28 hours) than Americans do. Although to be honest, people living in the UK are tied with us.
                                              #7 The United States leads the world in CC fraud.
                                              #8 The United States has the highest percentage of one person households on the entire planet.
                                              #9 The United States has the highest divorce rate in the world by a good margin.
                                              #10 The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the world by far.
                                              #11 There are more school shootings in America than anywhere else in the world.
                                              #12 The United States has the highest child abuse death rate in the world.
                                              #13 There are more "deaths by reptile" in America than anywhere else in the world.
                                              #14 The United States has the most lawyers per capita in the entire world.
                                              #15 The United States produces more pornography than any other nation in the world.
                                              #16 Americans take more prescription drugs than anyone else in the world.
                                              #17 More is spent on prescription drug advertising in America than anywhere else in the world.
                                              #18 The percentage of women taking antidepressants in America is higher than in any other country in the world.
                                              #19 More people have been diagnosed with mental disorders in America than anywhere else on earth.
                                              #20 The United States has the highest rate of illegal drug use on the entire globe.
                                              #21 There is more CC debt in America than anywhere else in the world.
                                              #22 There is more mortgage debt in America than anywhere else in the world.
                                              #23 There is more student loan debt in America than anywhere else in the world.
                                              #24 The United States spends more money on government schools than any other nation on earth does.
                                              #25 U.S. citizens spend more time in school than anyone else in the world. So why are so many of us dumb as a rock?
                                              #26 Nobody in the world gets more plastic surgery done than Americans do.
                                              #27 The United States leads the world in eating disorder deaths.
                                              #28 According to nationmaster.com, the United States has the most total reported crimes in the world by far.
                                              #29 Nobody has more airport security thugs groping women and children than America does.
                                              #30 The United States spends much more on health care as a percentage of GDP than any other nation on the face of the earth.
                                              #31 The United States has the most complicated tax system on the entire planet.
                                              #32 The United States has the most laws on the entire planet.
                                              #33 The United States spends more on the military than the next 12 nations combined, and yet the Obama administration is considering plans to unilaterally slash the size of the U.S. nuclear arsenal by up to 80 percent.
                                              #34 The United States has the most foreign military bases in the world by far.
                                              #35 The United States exports more arms to other countries than anyone else in the world.
                                              #36 Americans spend more time sitting in traffic than anyone else in the world.
                                              #37 Americans spend more money on elections than anyone else does in the world by a very wide margin.
                                              #38 Every single year, the United States has the largest trade deficit in the world by far.
                                              #39 The U.S. government wastes more money than any other government on earth does.
                                              #40 The United States has accumulated the biggest mountain of government debt in the history of the world.
                                              So is the USA #1?
                                              Unfortunately, the answer way too often is yes.
                                              The goal of this list of embarrassing things is not to trash America.
                                              Rather, the goal is to wake Americans up and to get them to realize what has happened to us.
                                              We should be deeply humbled and embarrassed as a nation. We were once the best in the world and the envy of the entire globe, but now the whole world is laughing at us.
                                              America is supposed to be a beacon of liberty, freedom and prosperity for the entire planet.
                                              Instead, we are rapidly turning into a horror show.
                                              Wake up America. The condition of our country is absolutely shameful, and every single day it gets even worse.
                                              Please share this list with as many people as you can. The American people need a massive wake up call, and it is up to those of us that are awake to share the truth while we still can.
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                                              • Killer_Demo
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-15-08
                                                • 8409

                                                #24
                                                i just know its more expensive to do business in the USA with all the fee's/taxes/BS that comes along with owning a business. losing too many jobs overseas due to this reason
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                                                • Kindred
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-09-08
                                                  • 2901

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by probettor1
                                                  Taxes?: There are always being taxes
                                                  Medicare?: There has always been medicare and many countries like canada have free health care
                                                  Real Estate Collapse?: In fact this is good, having to pay 2000 dollars of morgage makes cost of living too expensive, it force high salaries and consequently jobs going abroad looking for cheaper salarias.
                                                  So what is the problem?
                                                  The lost of freedom and equal rights in USA. If you have a bussiness you have to pay minimum salary, workeres compensation, health insurance, liability insurance ...., then some mother fucker go to china pays nothing for the work force, come back and sell the same thing you sell for half the price it cost you. Is that fair? americans losing their job on the basis of not having equal right, in the basis of having to compete with people who operate in a complete different basis.

                                                  This is my good bye to the forum, my respect to the owners, who are very respectul of the freedom of speech, I love their policy, but I'm going nowhere here. Good luck. Love America.
                                                  gtfo


                                                  read weath of nations by adam smith..you're talking out your ass and totally ignorant on the topic. So read that book and you'll realize how much we benefit from free trade..and no it's not written by some rich douche bag it was first published in 1776

                                                  Next time you start a thread at least have a clue as to what you are talking about

                                                  And what job are you so worried about keeping your record clean but it is so unskilled it can be outsourced to China

                                                  later troll
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                                                  • probettor1
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-22-11
                                                    • 1985

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Kindred
                                                    gtfo


                                                    read weath of nations by adam smith..you're talking out your ass and totally ignorant on the topic. So read that book and you'll realize how much we benefit from free trade..and no it's not written by some rich douche bag it was first published in 1776

                                                    Next time you start a thread at least have a clue as to what you are talking about

                                                    And what job are you so worried about keeping your record clean but it is so unskilled it can be outsourced to China

                                                    later troll
                                                    Did Adam Smith mentioned that this trading would bring over 30 millions of unemployed to USA in 2012, an unknown and probably even larger number of underemployment and a a debt of over 52,000000,000000 dollars, mainly to those countries trading with us and taking our work force to their land. And even worst that the unemployment and debt would grow each day exponentially?.

                                                    I have a job, I'm a physical therapist tech in USA and a doctor in rehab medicine in many other countries, I have plenty of work to do and I also speak a few language, I'm not as worry about me as I'm with America. And yes many hospital will avoid hiring people with police record.

                                                    I love America, I love americans, I hate to see people lying and scamming americans and try to avoid idiots like you.
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                                                    • DOMINATER
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 3698

                                                      #27
                                                      the saying from the sixtys is love it or leave it ,and as the blacks say don't let the door hit you in the ass!
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                                                      • probettor1
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-22-11
                                                        • 1985

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DOMINATER
                                                        the saying from the sixtys is love it or leave it ,and as the blacks say don't let the door hit you in the ass!
                                                        This statement is similar to Fidel Castro's statement, "either with me or leave". And believe me, it works, but only for him.
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                                                        • FuzzyDunlop
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-15-11
                                                          • 2422

                                                          #29
                                                          Lobbyists have to go, all problems stem from them.
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                                                          • Pokerjoe
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 04-17-09
                                                            • 704

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                            What made America great was the constitution that laid out a framework of small government and personal freedom. It's sadly ironic that America has become the state it fought to escape. Eventually when we hit bottom like the Jimmy Carter era a leader will emerge to roll back the socialism and thirst to spend borrowed money. Until then we will endure a stagnant economy where working people are forced to dream about holding onto their job instead of prospering.
                                                            SBR_John isn't really this stupid, he just figures that if he spews nonsense like this he can lock up the right-wing moron constituency, and thus have a significant majority of sports bettors.

                                                            It's also good for the advertisers. They don't want intelligent customers. It's win-win, no doubt.

                                                            John, in "SBR" the "B" stands for "bigot" and the "R" stands for "racist," that much we know.

                                                            But what's the "S" for? Swastika? Stupid? Stormfront? Sucker? Sap? Silly? Shit? Sack? Sorry? Sarah?

                                                            I'm old enough to remember when Republicans were people like Reagan and George Bush Sr (whom I voted for). Now it's degenerated into LOL ignorance and hypocrisy, where hating America is called patriotism (if you don't love the brown Americans, the poor Americans, and the gay Americans, you don't love America, you just love your gated community) and hating Jesus is called Christianity (in the Republican bible, the phrase "Jesus healed" is followed by small print saying "unless it was a pre-existing condition.")

                                                            I'm also old enough to remember when sports betting forums were about sports betting, not promoting extremist agendas.

                                                            And yes I remember that in my last post I said I wasn't posting here any more because I didn't want to support such a hate site as John runs here. But I couldn't resist this response because his post above is proof that this site's bigotry reflects his mentality.
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                                                            • probettor1
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-22-11
                                                              • 1985

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                                              SBR_John isn't really this stupid, he just figures that if he spews nonsense like this he can lock up the right-wing moron constituency, and thus have a significant majority of sports bettors.

                                                              It's also good for the advertisers. They don't want intelligent customers. It's win-win, no doubt.

                                                              John, in "SBR" the "B" stands for "bigot" and the "R" stands for "racist," that much we know.




                                                              But what's the "S" for? Swastika? Stupid? Stormfront? Sucker? Sap? Silly? Shit? Sack? Sorry? Sarah?

                                                              I'm old enough to remember when Republicans were people like Reagan and George Bush Sr (whom I voted for). Now it's degenerated into LOL ignorance and hypocrisy, where hating America is called patriotism (if you don't love the brown Americans, the poor Americans, and the gay Americans, you don't love America, you just love your gated community) and hating Jesus is called Christianity (in the Republican bible, the phrase "Jesus healed" is followed by small print saying "unless it was a pre-existing condition.")

                                                              I'm also old enough to remember when sports betting forums were about sports betting, not promoting extremist agendas.

                                                              And yes I remember that in my last post I said I wasn't posting here any more because I didn't want to support such a hate site as John runs here. But I couldn't resist this response because his post above is proof that this site's bigotry reflects his mentality.
                                                              pokerjoe can you help here, where is is John comment stupid or racist? We have over 30 millions unemployed, and the largest growing debt ever seen, john has a great bussiness, and it will get better as the economy keep getting worse. Right now sports betting is as good as any bussiness as most bussiness are colapsing. where to invest now? Real estate?, most people dont even have to pay rent and no one knows where it is going yet, and the banks are not lending much. Stock market, 99% of people have been losing money as the economy collapsed. The only thing I see in your post is envy and nonsense. People who are fustrated with the current economy are the people who love America the most. If you have 30 millions americans unemployed, and 200 millions afraid of losing their jobs and you are happy you are whether stupid or you hate americans. Any one offended with my post is just worry about those countries sucking America. It would take a few month to make america shine once again, but we might need people like john to guide us. I'm not trying to kiss John ass. I said sport betting was illegal, I bet he doesn't want people saying so here and i can't care less. But I cant blame him for that. Pokerjoe I suspect that you are one of the ones taking amerinas jobs offshores and that's the reason you are so upset.
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                                                              • baskets
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-24-11
                                                                • 11691

                                                                #32
                                                                I have never seen a guy so butt hurt. wtf?

                                                                This guy loses money gambling and so he takes it out on others and rages against gambling being illegal? lol

                                                                sure sign of a little bitch


                                                                If you lose your money, accept it. So be it. But to blame others and attack others on a gambling site for your losses ... and then rave against gambling b/c it's illegal/legal b/c you lost money....


                                                                prob, are you Asian?
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                                                                • probettor1
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-22-11
                                                                  • 1985

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by baskets
                                                                  I have never seen a guy so butt hurt. wtf?

                                                                  This guy loses money gambling and so he takes it out on others and rages against gambling being illegal? lol

                                                                  sure sign of a little bitch


                                                                  If you lose your money, accept it. So be it. But to blame others and attack others on a gambling site for your losses ... and then rave against gambling b/c it's illegal/legal b/c you lost money....


                                                                  prob, are you Asian?
                                                                  Baskets I'm starting to like you as your posts are completely childish. I was like you when I was 7.
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                                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                                    • 103435

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                                                    SBR_John isn't really this stupid, he just figures that if he spews nonsense like this he can lock up the right-wing moron constituency, and thus have a significant majority of sports bettors.

                                                                    It's also good for the advertisers. They don't want intelligent customers. It's win-win, no doubt.

                                                                    John, in "SBR" the "B" stands for "bigot" and the "R" stands for "racist," that much we know.

                                                                    But what's the "S" for? Swastika? Stupid? Stormfront? Sucker? Sap? Silly? Shit? Sack? Sorry? Sarah?

                                                                    I'm old enough to remember when Republicans were people like Reagan and George Bush Sr (whom I voted for). Now it's degenerated into LOL ignorance and hypocrisy, where hating America is called patriotism (if you don't love the brown Americans, the poor Americans, and the gay Americans, you don't love America, you just love your gated community) and hating Jesus is called Christianity (in the Republican bible, the phrase "Jesus healed" is followed by small print saying "unless it was a pre-existing condition.")

                                                                    I'm also old enough to remember when sports betting forums were about sports betting, not promoting extremist agendas.

                                                                    And yes I remember that in my last post I said I wasn't posting here any more because I didn't want to support such a hate site as John runs here. But I couldn't resist this response because his post above is proof that this site's bigotry reflects his mentality.
                                                                    you're in denial and delusional.

                                                                    SBR John has it right. He obviously poses something you do not. Common sense.
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                                                                    • probettor1
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-22-11
                                                                      • 1985

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Baskets, you can read some of my posts talking about betting, people posting lousy posts here like NHL pro capper and darkhat has been exposed thanks to my analysis of their picks. I started losing money when I started to bet in a daily basis, but before that I won over 80% of my picks. I'll be back. I'm just focusing in school matters right now. You should probably do the same.
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