Any one here play poker more than 20hrs a week?

[helicopter23]

I use to play 40+ hours a week playing $220 sit n goes online. All of the profits I made (60k) I lost betting sports. I play now at pokerstars, but the competition is much better. Once your bankroll is lost it's hard to get back.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Do you realize the difference in the amount of +EG players in that leap? With $2/$5 NL and $5/$10 NL, I can effectively earn the same amount with much less variance. As I said, I look for games with -EG players and exploit them. They are much harder to find at high stakes tables in Vegas. I'll take shots here and there in bigger games but I've found these to be the best +EG situations in Vegas. Slow and steady wins the race. I would rather invest that money earned elsewhere. Hence, my involvement on this site. And eventually, I'll diversify into other realms as well.

[Man o' War]

I use to play 40+ hours a week playing $220 sit n goes online. All of the profits I made (60k) I lost betting sports. I play now at pokerstars, but the competition is much better. Once your bankroll is lost it's hard to get back.

I have a friend who actually did the same. It made him question why he was in sports to begin with as putting that same amount of time, effort and money into poker would yield much better results.

[helicopter23]

Do you realize the difference in the amount of +EG players in that leap? With $2/$5 NL and $5/$10 NL, I can effectively earn the same amount with much less variance. As I said, I look for games with -EG players and exploit them. They are much harder to find at high stakes tables in Vegas. I'll take shots here and there in bigger games but I've found these to be the best +EG situations in Vegas. Slow and steady wins the race. I would rather invest that money earned elsewhere. Hence, my involvement on this site. And eventually, I'll diversify into other realms as well.

What percentage do you think poker is luck?

[helicopter23]

I have a friend who actually did the same. It made him question why he was in sports to begin with as putting that same amount of time, effort and money into poker would yield much better results.

Poker gets very redundent, even when you're winning. Betting sports is like a soap opera with a different ending every time.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Also, FYI, there is no max buyin on any of the NL games at the Wynn ($1/$3, $2/$5, $5/$10, $10/$20, etc.). The same goes for the Venetian $2/$5+, MGM $5/$10+, Bellagio $2/$5, $10/$20+ (oddly they cap the $5/$10 there), and several other casinos. I've played $2/$5 NL games at the Wynn where rich old men will sometimes sit in with $10k behind and play EVERY hand to the river...

[VegasDave]

I'm not necessarily doubting you but if your running over 70% why don't you just play the $10/$20 NL (no max buy in) game at the Wynn and retire in 10 years?

Maybe the competition is stiffer?

Its all about finding an easy game.

[Man o' War]

Poker gets very redundent, even when you're winning. Betting sports is like a soap opera with a different ending every time.

I personally agree. I couldn't imagine just doing one or the other myself.

[MonkeyF0cker]

What percentage do you think poker is luck?

That question always gets an ambiguous answer from me because it simply depends on your competition. Against a poor player, maybe as low as 10%. Against an extremely skilled player, perhaps as high as 45%. Poor players will pay you off with weak hands, skilled players will not...

[helicopter23]

That question always gets an ambiguous answer from me because it simply depends on your competition. Against a poor player, maybe as low as 10%. Against an extremely skilled player, perhaps as high as 45%. Poor players will pay you off with weak hands, skilled players will not...

You're right, but I might bump that 10% up to 20% and say on a avg. close to 35%.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I guess that depends from which perspective you are looking at where luck factors in. If you were to look at it on a hand vs. hand basis, then I would agree. However, if you look at it in terms of greater longevity, luck plays less of a factor since you are generally offered multiple opportunities to capitalize on their mistakes. If I can consistently put my opponent on a hand with accuracy and they will pay me off with much weaker hands, I do believe that I will beat them 9 out of every 10 sessions.

[TheLock]

Also, FYI, there is no max buyin on any of the NL games at the Wynn ($1/$3, $2/$5, $5/$10, $10/$20, etc.). The same goes for the Venetian $2/$5+, MGM $5/$10+, Bellagio $2/$5, $10/$20+ (oddly they cap the $5/$10 there), and several other casinos. I've played $2/$5 NL games at the Wynn where rich old men will sometimes sit in with $10k behind and play EVERY hand to the river...

Right so doesn't this work for you're plan? What better than a bunch of rich apes with no skills playing K high to the river?

Doesn't this post back up what I said about playing the 10/20 game at the Wynn?



I'd be really shocked if there was some way that we could find out the win percentage for guys like Ivey/Farha/Antonius etc.

Id be real suprised if they were running 73%

[gm2022]

I cant wait til I go to vegas so I can play at the wynn!

[TheLock]

I cant wait til I go to vegas so I can play at the wynn!

I'm going out there next Sunday.

Im staying at the Palms (comped) but I'll be playing all my poker at Wynn and Venetian. Wynn is my favorite room by far as far as comfort, staff and surroundings.

A lot of people whine about the $3 chips but you get used to it fast. I stayed at the Wynn last year for 11 nights an logged about 90 hours of poker.

They only let me use $50 of my food comps though for one trip so if anyone goes there keep that in mind.

[TheLock]

Monkey are you there?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Right so doesn't this work for you're plan? What better than a bunch of rich apes with no skills playing K high to the river?

Doesn't this post back up what I said about playing the 10/20 game at the Wynn?



I'd be really shocked if there was some way that we could find out the win percentage for guys like Ivey/Farha/Antonius etc.

Id be real suprised if they were running 73%

No. Apparently you missed my previous post. The number of +EG players rises significantly in that leap. The fact that those "lower stakes" games have no max buyin creates a situation where less skilled players sit in but are still able to buyin for the same amounts. Would you rather be battling 9 +EG players and 1 -EG player or 6 and 4, respectively? As would be expected, of course the major pros don't have that high of a win percentage. This coincides with the fact that there are many more profitable players at every table at higher stakes. As I stated above, I would rather play with less variance and win at a steady clip...

[wtt0315]

here in daytona beach,fl and the track and i think its a state law you can play 1-2nl 2-4 nl and 5-10 no limit and the min and max buy is 100. yep you can only buy in for 100 at 5-10 nl. its a all in fest first couple hands

[jolub]

I play on-line poker every day. I'm ahead but my hourly rate sucks.