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  • fiveteamer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-14-08
    • 10805

    #1
    How safe is USC SU?
    Enough to risk 6 units to get back 1.5?
  • SlickFazzer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-22-08
    • 20209

    #2
    Absolutely not.
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    • fiveteamer
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-14-08
      • 10805

      #3
      ok, this is good.

      please talk me out of it.

      because my finger is on the trigger.
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      • bmw530i
        Restricted User
        • 04-19-08
        • 4058

        #4
        5teamer...I looked at this...it's just waaaay to much risk..dude...maybe buy points to get it under 10...to 9.5...we should all be fine.
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        • VegasDave
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-03-07
          • 8056

          #5
          Ohio States defense is very good...

          USC's running game was excellent against Virginia but that was 4 brand new D-lineman... Ohio State's D-Line will be much better, and their LBs can sniff out and stop big plays. The passing game will not be as easy, either, as the run will be harder to establish.

          USC could roll here, sure. But it could also be a defensive struggle and in games of that nature, whoever gets the bounces comes out on top.
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          • fiveteamer
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-14-08
            • 10805

            #6
            Ok, this is why sbr is great.

            last time i bet that much chalk on the ML, THIS HAPPENED.

            That was a 5 figure loss.

            Wish I knew of sbr then...
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            • ryanXL977
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-24-08
              • 20615

              #7
              ohio state eh
              when has a big ten team ever won a game vs a good team
              usc kills em
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              • fiveteamer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-14-08
                • 10805

                #8
                ryan makes some valid points there...

                I'm thinking about it again...

                I just don't want to end up punching babies after this game...
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                • VegasDave
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-03-07
                  • 8056

                  #9
                  You definitely SHOULD win. But there just isn't much value here.
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                  • accuscoresucks
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-03-07
                    • 7160

                    #10
                    i would consider ohio state ml
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                    • SlickFazzer
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-22-08
                      • 20209

                      #11
                      Why put that much risk on a team that you have only seen play 1 game?
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                      • VegasDave
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-03-07
                        • 8056

                        #12
                        I still think theres some value in an Ohio State/Under parlay or teaser.
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                        • fiveteamer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-08
                          • 10805

                          #13
                          I haven't seen them play at all.

                          Actually if all they did was smack around Virginia, that is not very encouraging at all.

                          Virginia is pathetic.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Actually, I think ML is VERY safe here, as USC wins this game about 85% of the time. That translates to -567, so believe it or not, there is some value on USC in the upper 400s right now.
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                            • LT Profits
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-27-06
                              • 90963

                              #15
                              Oh and I personally feel 85% is being conservative here, but I will play it safe and keep my projection there although I honestly have no idea how Ohio State could win this game outright. The "great" OSU defense will be exposed outside of the Big Ten once again as they do not have the team speed to match up with the Trojans offense.
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                              • ryanXL977
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-24-08
                                • 20615

                                #16
                                listen, unless usc makes 4 turnovers, they wont lose

                                this isnt rutgers unc here or something questionable
                                this is the best team, year after year, vs a team on the road possibly without its best player

                                ohio state ****ing sucks vs good teams

                                they barely beat OHIO
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                                • daggerkobe
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-25-08
                                  • 10744

                                  #17
                                  Michitgan did beat FL last season.

                                  USC should win but u know what they say about should woulda couldas....... helps bookies send their kids to private schools.

                                  I would put 1.5 units on Ohio St +pts that way u still win even if USC wins.
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                                  • ryanXL977
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-24-08
                                    • 20615

                                    #18
                                    when did michigan beat florida? are you sure about that? was this a bowl game? refresh me, i forgot, you may be right
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                                    • VegasDave
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-03-07
                                      • 8056

                                      #19
                                      Yes, it was the bowl game last year.
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                                      • SBR_John
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-12-05
                                        • 16471

                                        #20
                                        I wouldnt.

                                        USC has a history of taking games off...a long history.

                                        I'm laying the points. My reasoning is if they come to play they will win like 38-10. If they dont then they will figure out a way to lose su.
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                                        • ryanXL977
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-24-08
                                          • 20615

                                          #21
                                          what history is that johnny?
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                                          • LT Profits
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SBR_John
                                            I wouldnt.

                                            USC has a history of taking games off...a long history.

                                            I'm laying the points. My reasoning is if they come to play they will win like 38-10. If they dont then they will figure out a way to lose su.
                                            Oh they'll come to play with all of the hype surrounding this game.
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                                            • SBR_John
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-12-05
                                              • 16471

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                              what history is that johnny?
                                              Saturday 10/06/07 Stanford L 23-24 Week 6 L -39
                                              Saturday 10/28/06 @ Oregon State L 31-33 Week 9 L -10.5
                                              Saturday 12/02/06 @ UCLA L 9-13 Week 14 L -10.5
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                                              • ryanXL977
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 20615

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                Saturday 10/06/07 Stanford L 23-24 Week 6 L -39
                                                Saturday 10/28/06 @ Oregon State L 31-33 Week 9 L -10.5
                                                Saturday 12/02/06 @ UCLA L 9-13 Week 14 L -10.5
                                                fair enough
                                                2 of those were road games and all 3 were vs shitty teams
                                                they have no history of not showing up for big games though
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                                                • fiveteamer
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-14-08
                                                  • 10805

                                                  #25
                                                  I couldn't name a single player on either team.

                                                  If Ohio State wins, they would probably play for the national title. Even if they went on to lose a game.

                                                  If USC loses this game, they could still probably play for the national title, might end up like 3rd, or some shit like that.

                                                  Right?
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                                                  • durito
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                    • 13173

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                    Oh and I personally feel 85% is being conservative here, but I will play it safe and keep my projection there although I honestly have no idea how Ohio State could win this game outright. The "great" OSU defense will be exposed outside of the Big Ten once again as they do not have the team speed to match up with the Trojans offense.
                                                    there's no way it's that high. edges of 5%+ are extremely unlikely at -415 with full limits.
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                                                    • MJFtheGenius
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 05-31-07
                                                      • 7257

                                                      #27
                                                      line is inflated due to the peformance from ohio st last week

                                                      If i play it it will be Ohio st + points
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                                                      • HedgeHog
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-11-07
                                                        • 10128

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                        Enough to risk 6 units to get back 1.5?
                                                        Was last year's game with Stanford a lock? How stupid are you?
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                                                        • SBR_John
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-12-05
                                                          • 16471

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                          I couldn't name a single player on either team.

                                                          If Ohio State wins, they would probably play for the national title. Even if they went on to lose a game.

                                                          If USC loses this game, they could still probably play for the national title, might end up like 3rd, or some shit like that.

                                                          Right?
                                                          Actually the UCLA game was big and it was like a home game.

                                                          I would agree they show up in the big games. I think I took them as a best bet this week. I like them minus the points. Just dont like them laying 5 bets to win 1 on a su affair.
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                                                          • JRS21386
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 04-13-08
                                                            • 2213

                                                            #30
                                                            Extremely Safe...
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                                                            • fiveteamer
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-14-08
                                                              • 10805

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                              Was last year's game with Stanford a lock? How stupid are you?
                                                              I don't even remember that game last year, what was the line? I'm guessing it was probably -30 or something, if so, I'm sure USC just underestimated their opponent. This is a totally different scenario here.
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                                                              • donjuan
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-29-07
                                                                • 3993

                                                                #32
                                                                I don't even remember that game last year, what was the line? I'm guessing it was probably -30 or something, if so, I'm sure USC just underestimated their opponent. This is a totally different scenario here.
                                                                ~40 IIRC
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                                                                • Kingctb27
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-16-08
                                                                  • 2258

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                                  Ok, this is why sbr is great.

                                                                  last time i bet that much chalk on the ML, THIS HAPPENED.

                                                                  That was a 5 figure loss.

                                                                  Wish I knew of sbr then...
                                                                  Yeah that's sad. Esp when your team has 405 total yards to their 130.

                                                                  Ouch
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                                                                  • treece
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-28-07
                                                                    • 6298

                                                                    #34
                                                                    USC is not safe at all. They lost last year at home vs Stanford as a 41 point chalk. What were they on the ml -30000?
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                                                                    • nysmoneyman
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-13-08
                                                                      • 3101

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                                      Enough to risk 6 units to get back 1.5?
                                                                      if u can live with the loss of 6 bills go for it
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