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  • RogueJuror
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-08-08
    • 10010

    #1
    Betfair Premium Charge.. (VIDEO)
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    Betfair had a changed in their TOS that will affect some people. Terrible decision on their part.





  • pico
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 04-05-07
    • 27321

    #2
    damn right. **** them. i don't have account there anyways.
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    • woodg8
      SBR MVP
      • 06-21-08
      • 1349

      #3
      Straight Ghetto.

      Betfair are cunts, I'm moving over to Betdaq right now. Why should we get charged for being good at gambling? **** right off Betfair
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      • HeeeHAWWWW
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-13-08
        • 5487

        #4
        Try betmate, same market as betdaq but 3% commission, 2% asians.
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        • betplom
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-20-06
          • 13444

          #5
          Rogie:

          At least you can have a betfair account, most guys here can't even play there.

          When you start complaining about pinnacle you know you got it good.
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          • RogueJuror
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-08-08
            • 10010

            #6
            The talk is a migration to Betdaq, lets see how many folks make a stand.

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            • durito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-03-06
              • 13173

              #7
              Rogue

              I've been reading about this on the betfair forums. Sounds like a real shitty deal for winners. I just started playing around there recently as I couldn't before from gringoland, so I don't understand exactly what's going on.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Roguey what d you have in there $400??

                I will tell you what pal, I will send you the $400 not to hear you moan about them.

                Thanks
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                • bigboydan
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 55420

                  #9
                  This was a extremely bad decision made by BetFair IMO. This is the second increase from them within roughly a year.
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                  • RogueJuror
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-08-08
                    • 10010

                    #10
                    Durito, basically Betfair has decide they will get 20% of your profits either by commisions or this imaginary charge. If you have paid less then 20% of your profits in commisions they will take away the difference up to 20%. For the folks that strategist to pay the lowest amount of commisions and maximise their profits this will be a major screw to them.

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                    • betplom
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-20-06
                      • 13444

                      #11
                      I have a Betdaq account but I'm waiting for hockey before I use it again.

                      Hopefully liquidity will be good for NHL.

                      Anyone else using betdaq?
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                      • durito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-03-06
                        • 13173

                        #12
                        20% on top of the 35+% i owe the US gov't, guess i'm not going to look to hard at starting to trade at betfair
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                        • Panic
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-06-08
                          • 10367

                          #13
                          durito, I say this with all sincerity, loosen up. Have a few drinks. You analyze to many positions about to many things.
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                          • durito
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-03-06
                            • 13173

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Panic
                            durito, I say this with all sincerity, loosen up. Have a few drinks. You analyze to many positions about to many things.
                            i spent the last 10 years drunk

                            now it's time to work
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                            • Panic
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-06-08
                              • 10367

                              #15
                              Originally posted by durito
                              i spent the last 10 years drunk

                              now it's time to work

                              lol. fair enough. But just remember...all work and no play makes durito a dullboy.
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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Panic
                                lol. fair enough. But just remember...all work and no play makes durito a dullboy.
                                it makes me cranky. i think i'll go to the massage parlor tomorrow
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                                • Panic
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-06-08
                                  • 10367

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by durito
                                  it makes me cranky. i think i'll go to the massage parlor tomorrow

                                  I'm in. And my treat.
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                                  • acw
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-29-05
                                    • 576

                                    #18
                                    Latest news, sport, business, comment, analysis and reviews from the Guardian, the world's leading liberal voice


                                    At least one of Betfair's winners, though, took a different view. "It's the best news I've had for ages, as it's not going to cost me a penny," Harry Findlay, professional punter and owner of Denman, said. "I'm a gambler, so the way I bet, it won't make a difference. The people who will be screaming will be the maths professors with computer models, the ones who just never lose. If they clear off, it should be even easier for me to make money."
                                    He is 100% right!
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                                    • sheffieldscimita
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 09-15-08
                                      • 2

                                      #19
                                      No he's NOT right. The only reason he wins decent money is because he is a millionaire. If he bet in £50 notes he would hardly make any money at all. His loss rate is nearly as high as his wins which is why he already pays enough.
                                      There are plenty of proper punters with a better ratio than that and many of them are affected, Betfair just dont want to let anyone know about this and pretend its the bot users and traders, dont fall for their spin.
                                      Brilliant video at the top mate, feel the same way, would love to do one myself but couldnt have put it any better.
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                                      • acw
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-29-05
                                        • 576

                                        #20
                                        Welcome to the forum, sheffieldscimita.

                                        If you are a small gambler (paying at least 4% commission) and NOT a trader, no way you will be effected by the new rule. I had a close look at it and it does indeed mainly effect traders or maybe very successful gamblers (of whom Harry is one and he does not complain).

                                        My main problem is that it does not go far enough! I rather see BetFair take out the whole trading element where commission is being charged only on the nett result of a market. They should charge on every single bet being made in the same way as transactions are being charged for those gambling on the stock exchange.
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                                        • sheffieldscimita
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 09-15-08
                                          • 2

                                          #21
                                          Harry isnt making a massive percentage on the money he circulates though, I make more than him percentage wise but have a much smaller pot to play with, hence it penalises me more than him. I would have to pay 3k extra next year with the new charges. I dont trade but I often back a few in the same race against the others so dont tend to lose as often. I think many more smaller punters are affected than most people are thinking. In fact Ive just had another decent win at the weekend so it will probably go up even higher now. I think I'm moving to Betdaq anyway for a while where its 2% and see what happens, I dont have massive lumpy bets either so might be able to get accommodated over there. Thanks for the greeting anyhow, good luck to you all.
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                                          • acw
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-29-05
                                            • 576

                                            #22
                                            Ok, so who had its first charges?
                                            Screen shots please!
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                                            • acw
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 08-29-05
                                              • 576

                                              #23
                                              RogueJuror,

                                              No charges?
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                                              • RogueJuror
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-08-08
                                                • 10010

                                                #24
                                                I bet 5 quids per game mate, and live in a mud hut in the second porest nation in the western hemisphere.

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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82897

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RogueJuror
                                                  I bet 5 quids per game mate, and live in a mud hut in the second porest nation in the western hemisphere.
                                                  Two nights ago you said you were living in Miami and wanted to take Robyn and Teela to the jungle in Nicaragua. Today you say you live in a mud hut in some pour country.

                                                  When do the lies actually end?
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                                                  • pimike
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 03-23-08
                                                    • 37140

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Roguey what d you have in there $400??

                                                    I will tell you what pal, I will send you the $400 not to hear you moan about them.

                                                    Thanks
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                                                    • flyingillini
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                      • 41219

                                                      #27
                                                      Roguester! You know how I feel about this. Do I need to lay it out in Spanish?
                                                      המוסד‎
                                                      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                      • pavyracer
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-12-07
                                                        • 82897

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by flyingillini
                                                        Roguester! You know how I feel about this. Do I need to lay it out in Spanish?
                                                        Here is very fluent in English. Don't need to. And I can read spanish.
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                                                        • purecarnagge
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-05-07
                                                          • 4843

                                                          #29
                                                          Next time we want the camera on your face not your waist. Thank you very much in advance.
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                                                          • Chi_archie
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-22-08
                                                            • 63172

                                                            #30
                                                            not many people have the balls to post vids....

                                                            everyone has the balls to be a critic though
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