Lazio are without as many as 10 players... I'm betting Cesena +706

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:30 PM

cesena went from +690 to +758 at one point.

Bbobbi · 02-09-12, 04:30 PM

i dont know if you guys are watching the siena napoli game but did siena score on his own goal?

GoodSun · 02-09-12, 04:32 PM

you guys are obsessed with "fixes" and line movements, smh.

p19101 · 02-09-12, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

the pregame odds movement was HUGE on lazio. HUGE! So do some more research.

No it wasn't, what are you smoking?

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:34 PM

if you guys don't think the Italian soccer league is corrupt then you don't know anything. I bet on this sport all the time, and crazy stuff happens in every sport, but the italian leagues are ridiculous to say the least. Look it up. There is evidence all over the internet that match fixing happens in Italy.

p19101 · 02-09-12, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

cesena went from +690 to +758 at one point.

That's NOTHING

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by p19101

No it wasn't, what are you smoking?

you don't call a 50 cent move big? what is big to you then? does it have to be from even money to 2-1? what is a big move in your eyes Mr. experience? haha

Wesley · 02-09-12, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

the pregame odds movement was HUGE on lazio. HUGE! So do some more research.

are you kidding?

http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/italy/serie-a-2011-2012/lazio-cesena-855915/

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:36 PM

well at least I pushed.

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:37 PM

you guys have fun betting on italian soccer. 3 goals a man down in less than 10 minutes then nothing for the next 30.

p19101 · 02-09-12, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

if you guys don't think the Italian soccer league is corrupt then you don't know anything. I bet on this sport all the time, and crazy stuff happens in every sport, but the italian leagues are ridiculous to say the least. Look it up. There is evidence all over the internet that match fixing happens in Italy.

Yeah apparently there is evidence all over the Internet that aliens have landed on earth, that USA was behind 9/11 and so on. Don't believe in anything you read and hear. YES, there has been fixed matches in Italy, but you'd be amazed how much BS is on the Internet about fix this fix that, that is complete any utter BS.

jules11 · 02-09-12, 04:39 PM

more like paranoid... i had Lazio -1 , not sure if i win my bet lol

p19101 · 02-09-12, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

you don't call a 50 cent move big? what is big to you then? does it have to be from even money to 2-1? what is a big move in your eyes Mr. experience? haha

Jesus!

a movement from -110 to +140 can't be compared to a move from +690 to +740. If it was a fix pre game you'd KNOW it because books would close the game down for betting, believe me. 5 Dimes for example actually increased the odds on Lazio before the game, that should be proof enough

Dad · 02-09-12, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

you guys have fun betting on italian soccer. 3 goals a man down in less than 10 minutes then nothing for the next 30.

Sorry boys.

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by p19101

Yeah apparently there is evidence all over the Internet that aliens have landed on earth, that USA was behind 9/11 and so on. Don't believe in anything you read and hear. YES, there has been fixed matches in Italy, but you'd be amazed how much BS is on the Internet about fix this fix that, that is complete any utter BS.

We will agree to disagree. It doesn't hurt my feelings if you think this is legit. GL the rest of the day.

spankie · 02-09-12, 04:43 PM

Rigged!

rig rig riggy riggster!

Mriceyman · 02-09-12, 04:43 PM

Im just astonished right now

Dad · 02-09-12, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by jules11

more like paranoid... i had Lazio -1 , not sure if i win my bet lol

You pushed.

cyclonebell · 02-09-12, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by jules11

more like paranoid... i had Lazio -1 , not sure if i win my bet lol

You pushed. These Serie A games are a crapshoot if you are dealing with a shit team like Cesana. Tough luck guys, make it up tonight in CBB!

Sunde91 · 02-09-12, 04:46 PM

soccer is the most erratic sport ever. team that is 2-0 probably -2500 odds they win the game then comeback to lose 3-2 or tie 2-2 all the time

just take alt totals of Over 3.5 +250 or w/e and I don't see how you lose long term

SportsMushroom · 02-09-12, 04:51 PM

HAHAHHA, just when I think people can not really be that stupid, they prove me wrong

so what are you saying, that someone paid a division 2 team to 'let' a perennial powerhouse win?

so they paid millionaires off so they can do what? pound a team at -600 odds

oh wait wait now I know what you are saying, they paid of lazio players, they each get paid millions per year, but they paid them enough to convince them to let the underdog take a 0-2 lead, get a red card, and then score 3 goals in the second half even though they are a man down, so that the fixers can bet on lazio live, they managed to bet down 1000 bucks on bet365, and another 1000 on 5 dimes, now they are like 10million in the hole cause they didnt get enough action

GoodSun · 02-09-12, 04:51 PM

im im not saying soccer fixes dont happen. all im saying things like this happen alot in soccer. you need to stop betting soccer if lose because of "fixes".weak teams like this are too incosistent. when looking at underdogs you should look at halves like separate games. if the game lost......the manchester, chelsea game was fix as well i guess

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spankie · 02-09-12, 04:53 PM

Rigged!!!!!!!!!!!!

SportsMushroom · 02-09-12, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by GoodSun

im im not saying soccer fixes dont happen. all im saying things like this happen alot in soccer. you need to stop betting soccer if lose because of "fixes".weak teams like this are too incosistent. when looking at underdogs you should look at halves like separate games. if the game lost......the manchester, chelsea game was fix as well i guess

.

people think that they can outsmart the books, oh yeah lazio is missing 10 players and the books are so stupid they dont realize they hand out cesena at +800, we are going to make so much money, dumb books we are going to bury you

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:56 PM

you're right guys it's all legit. The People getting arrested in italy for match fixing are all innocent. There is no italian mafia or any organized crime on this planet. We live in a utopia with no crime and everyone is honest and plays fair. There has never been a fixed match in the history of sports, and if there ever was one we all would know about it.

MatI · 02-09-12, 04:56 PM

Fellas, you need to stop calling 'rigged' every time you lose a bet.

Or maybe get on the right side of the fix. More profitable that way.

cyclonebell · 02-09-12, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by GoodSun

im im not saying soccer fixes dont happen. all im saying things like this happen alot in soccer. you need to stop betting soccer if lose because of "fixes".weak teams like this are too incosistent. when looking at underdogs you should look at halves like separate games. if the game lost......the manchester, chelsea game was fix as well i guess

.

So true, so true. See the Man U Chelsea game last week. Perfect example.

spankie · 02-09-12, 04:57 PM

im going out on a limb here and im going to say this game was..

RIGGED!!!!!!

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by MatI

Fellas, you need to stop calling 'rigged' every time you lose a bet.

Or maybe get on the right side of the fix. More profitable that way.

I didn't lose I pushed.

p19101 · 02-09-12, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Sunde91

soccer is the most erratic sport ever. team that is 2-0 probably -2500 odds they win the game then comeback to lose 3-2 or tie 2-2 all the time

just take alt totals of Over 3.5 +250 or w/e and I don't see how you lose long term

You're funny, they were -435ish, not -2500 when ahead 2-0. It's Cesena we're talking about...

MatI · 02-09-12, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

I didn't lose I pushed.

When up 0-2, im sure it feels like a loss.

MatI · 02-09-12, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by cyclonebell

So true, so true. See the Man U Chelsea game last week. Perfect example.

Oh, definately. Especially with Man Utd & Chelsea behind on their wage payments and all.

FindTheLock · 02-09-12, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by MatI

When up 0-2, im sure it feels like a loss.

yeah I can't lie though, I am not surprised to see this result. Even up 0-2 and a man, this is Italy.

jstblaze · 02-09-12, 05:06 PM

The fix comes in with the half time odds.

The ones that it appears no one here took advantage of.

I followed this thread too late to tail Dads play, but in time to get my half time play in on the other side.

Anytime you have a huge dog take a lead liek that into half time, you have to bet the other side.

MatI · 02-09-12, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

yeah I can't lie though, I am not surprised to see this result. Even up 0-2 and a man, this is Italy.

Yes, this is Italian Soccer. Big discrepancy between teams, Italian players with latin temperament. Cold weather at the moment, add in a red card happy ref. This is soccer..... but shit, I could be talking about A-League or any other league around the world.

i am not saying there are no fixes. But this is ridiculous. Every day one can open a thread in this forum and find 'rigged this', 'rigged that'. You know it would be a lot easier to people to fix a match in lower leagues. It costs money to fix matches, and it is much easier to find players/refs, who need the cash in lower levels.

You are more likely to see a fix or 'agreement' in high level series when a team needs a certain outcome. ie. avoiding relegation, or to make top 4 spot, or they need a certain goal differential, etc.

This just looks like a typical Italian soccer game to me, but i only saw the last half.