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  • Chi-Town
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-25-08
    • 49

    #1
    Got a BEEF with BLACKDOG / Rebatewager
    I recently attempted to open an account with BlackDog.
    I was given a 250.00 freeplay and was told I would have to verify my employment to get a regular credit account. That is no problem but I am self employed. I sell on EBAY and Amazon. I sent them records of my Paypal transactions as proof (600-800 cash a week). Amazon somewhere between 150-300 a week. I was told by SAM that he would have the credit department review my case and they would have a decision. In the mean time I was to play my freeplay. I play my freeplay and after 5 bets - I'm up 37.00 small dollars. I call today to find out what I should do. Sam tells me I am not eligible for a credit account but could have a post-up account ( thanks for allowing me to post up ). I tell him that is fine but can I just make a play with my 37.00 because I realize this is a minute amount to get a payout and I would rather just play with it. He tells me to just send in the difference between that and the 500 and we'll get an account going. I have better offers from books as far as posting-up. I was going to use this shop as a credit place.
    With that being said. Sam told me that 37.00 wasn't enough to make a payout. I told him to just open a rebate wager account for me ( same company Post-up side ) and deposit 37.00 in it. He said that they have their rules and i would have to make a deposit.
    Am I in the wrong to think this is garbage. I see that BigBlackDog posts here so I would like to get his response and figure out where i went wrong.
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    Hi Chi-Town,

    It sounds like Blackdog just decided you didn't meet their preferred criteria for a credit account, I think they look for more 9-5 jobs as more of an insurance whether right or wrong. As far as the $37, since it was a freeplay given during the account application period, if you aren't eligible for a credit account I'd say it only makes sense to post up before being able to access that figure.
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    • durito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-03-06
      • 13173

      #3
      What exactly is it that you want?

      The moneygram payout costs $30 for the free play payouts. You really want them to send you $7?

      Do you pay taxes? Send them a tax return with sufficient income and they might give you credit. I wouldn't.
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      • Richkas
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-03-08
        • 19396

        #4
        Originally posted by CrazyL
        Hi Chi-Town,

        It sounds like Blackdog just decided you didn't meet their preferred criteria for a credit account, I think they look for more 9-5 jobs as more of an insurance whether right or wrong. As far as the $37, since it was a freeplay given during the account application period, if you aren't eligible for a credit account I'd say it only makes sense to post up before being able to access that figure.
        I didnt have to.
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        • gm2022
          SBR MVP
          • 02-28-08
          • 4128

          #5
          has anyone confirmed if they are as fast on their payouts as they say they our?
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          • Chi-Town
            SBR Rookie
            • 08-25-08
            • 49

            #6
            Durito. I'm not looking for a 37.00 moneygram. I would just the same throw it on a parlay or something. Open a rebatewager account with my info and credit it 37.00. that isn't that tough.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              I think if Blackie see this he will credit the rebate wager account
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              • gm2022
                SBR MVP
                • 02-28-08
                • 4128

                #8
                Originally posted by Chi-Town
                Durito. I'm not looking for a 37.00 moneygram. I would just the same throw it on a parlay or something. Open a rebatewager account with my info and credit it 37.00. that isn't that tough.
                Its a promo/set up though. To get all of your 37 bucks they want you to put money in. They are giving you the 250 to make bets, but arent telling you to get your winnings you need to deposit money.
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                • bettilimbroke999
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-04-08
                  • 13254

                  #9
                  37 bucks

                  Just shows you how small-time Blackdog is that they would have arguments over 37 bucks the guy won, what a joke
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                  • durito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-03-06
                    • 13173

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                    37 bucks

                    Just shows you how small-time Blackdog is that they would have arguments over 37 bucks the guy won, what a joke
                    You think cris would send him $37? ($7 after the $30 fee)

                    They'd charge $250 to send it.
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                    • bettilimbroke999
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-04-08
                      • 13254

                      #11
                      Originally posted by durito
                      You think cris would send him $37? ($7 after the $30 fee)

                      They'd charge $250 to send it.
                      No, but he's not asking to cash it out, he's just asking for the chance to bet the 37 to turn it into something or lose it and they say if he doesn't post up he doesn't get it
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                      • durito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-03-06
                        • 13173

                        #12
                        Those are the rules of their promotion.

                        Maybe since he brought it to the forums they will bend their rules, it may just be $37, but he didn't put up a dime.

                        This is one of the few new books I actually think has a chance of succeeding, and it's specifically because of their strict policies on extending credit.
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                        • Chi-Town
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 08-25-08
                          • 49

                          #13
                          Durito your wrong. Where does it say in the rules you have to post up to cash in the promotion. I'm walking a fine line here because I don't want to bash the book. My cousin plays there and has had a great experience. I on the other hand have hit a bump. Thing is I am not ruling out ever playing at BlackDog. I may want to post-up there in the future but I'm not going to put money there when we hit a snag on such a small issue.
                          I'm not looking for a hand out but I will hold BlackDog to their word. they say this is a 250 freeplay " WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED " They also state they will pay within 3 days or they will give you a 500 freeplay. Something has got to give. 37 USD is nothing but there is a principle at hand.
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                          • gm2022
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-28-08
                            • 4128

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chi-Town
                            Durito your wrong. Where does it say in the rules you have to post up to cash in the promotion. I'm walking a fine line here because I don't want to bash the book. My cousin plays there and has had a great experience. I on the other hand have hit a bump. Thing is I am not ruling out ever playing at BlackDog. I may want to post-up there in the future but I'm not going to put money there when we hit a snag on such a small issue.
                            I'm not looking for a hand out but I will hold BlackDog to their word. they say this is a 250 freeplay " WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED " They also state they will pay within 3 days or they will give you a 500 freeplay. Something has got to give. 37 USD is nothing but there is a principle at hand.
                            Chi Town as much as I agree with you, I think your fighting an uphill battle. I hope for the best but yea Gl
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                            • durito
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-03-06
                              • 13173

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chi-Town
                              Durito your wrong. Where does it say in the rules you have to post up to cash in the promotion. I'm walking a fine line here because I don't want to bash the book. My cousin plays there and has had a great experience. I on the other hand have hit a bump. Thing is I am not ruling out ever playing at BlackDog. I may want to post-up there in the future but I'm not going to put money there when we hit a snag on such a small issue.
                              I'm not looking for a hand out but I will hold BlackDog to their word. they say this is a 250 freeplay " WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED " They also state they will pay within 3 days or they will give you a 500 freeplay. Something has got to give. 37 USD is nothing but there is a principle at hand.

                              I guess you are right:

                              WAGERING RULES

                              You must make five $50.00 wagers. You can make no more than five wagers. No more than one bet per game. NFL sides and totals only. No Money lines. No Hookups.

                              PAYOUT AND CONVERSION RULES

                              1. If you are up after five wagers you can either request a payout of your winnings or convert to a trial credit account. *

                              2. If you are down after five wagers your account balance will be zeroed out and you can apply for a trial credit account. *

                              3. Payout requests can only be made on Mondays and will be sent out on Tuesdays. Payouts will be processed via Express Check only and will be sent to the name and address listed on your sign up form. You will be charged all transaction fees.

                              * In order to qualify for a credit account you must make at least $50.000.00 a year and you must provide us with a copy of your most recent pay stub, personal information such as social security number and date of birth can be blacked out.

                              By participating in the reverse bonus promotion you indicate full acceptance and understanding of all BLACKDOG rules.
                              You are entitled to your $37 dollar payout minus the $30 fee. Blackdog owes you $7.
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                              • sofun
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 05-22-08
                                • 361

                                #16
                                can't believe it Chi town, why don't you post up 500 or 1000 and include your 37 win to transfer to rebate wager,

                                there is no dams free money for you just to come and get it broo
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                                • Chi-Town
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 08-25-08
                                  • 49

                                  #17
                                  Posting up 500-1000 isn't like picking a hooker at a 50.00 whorehouse. I usually post up at A-B books. I understand my cousin has had a good experience there but I haven't yet. Why would I send a nickel or dime to a book that has yet to prove itself to me? I'm probably not explaining right but the 37.00 is irrelevant what is relevant is whether or not I feel the book has done the right thing. So far SOFUN I can throw money in another book with a rating of A like I always have. I don't know if BlackDog has value other than being a credit shop.
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                                  • compaqDikk
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-08-05
                                    • 5699

                                    #18
                                    all blackie/rebatwagering credit checks are done thru youtube apps only. that way they can tell if you is lying


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                                    • BIGBLACKDOG
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 08-17-07
                                      • 389

                                      #19
                                      you will be paid what your are owed within 3 days

                                      Originally posted by durito
                                      I guess you are right:


                                      You are entitled to your $37 dollar payout minus the $30 fee. Blackdog owes you $7.
                                      are rules are clearly stated, you have made your 5 bets and you are up 37 we will send you a check for 2 wich the 37 minus the 35 processing fee.

                                      here are the reasons

                                      1. you don´t meet our credit requirements for bd.
                                      2. you are unwillingly to make the minimum deposit for rb.

                                      the 250 is free money, it gives you the chance to try out our product with no risk to you. if you win we will pay you but we´re not looking to bring people on that don´t meet our eligibility requirements.
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                                      • gm2022
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-28-08
                                        • 4128

                                        #20
                                        lol
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                                        • BIGBLACKDOG
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 08-17-07
                                          • 389

                                          #21
                                          rb promo rules

                                          Originally posted by Chi-Town
                                          Durito your wrong. Where does it say in the rules you have to post up to cash in the promotion. I'm walking a fine line here because I don't want to bash the book. My cousin plays there and has had a great experience. I on the other hand have hit a bump. Thing is I am not ruling out ever playing at BlackDog. I may want to post-up there in the future but I'm not going to put money there when we hit a snag on such a small issue.
                                          I'm not looking for a hand out but I will hold BlackDog to their word. they say this is a 250 freeplay " WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED " They also state they will pay within 3 days or they will give you a 500 freeplay. Something has got to give. 37 USD is nothing but there is a principle at hand.


                                          Now there are sportsbooks out there who’ll do anything to get your money upfront - they’re a dime a dozen. Then there’s us - we feel our product is so good we’re willing to wait for your deposit, and give you $250 to play with while you try us out.

                                          No strings. Just five free $50 bets. Once you get to know us (just try our customer service and unbeatably fast banking) we’re betting you won’t want to play anywhere else.

                                          GENERAL RULES


                                          You must be at least 18 years of age. One account per IP Address. One account per household.

                                          You can only participate once. You cannot have participated in our reverse bonus at any of our affiliate sites.

                                          WAGERING RULES


                                          You must make five $50.00 wagers. You can make no more than five wagers. No more than one bet per game. NFL sides and totals only. No Money lines. No Hookups.

                                          PAYOUT AND CONVERSION RULES


                                          If you are up after five wagers you can either request a payout of your winnings or become a member. In order to become a member you must deposit at least $500.

                                          If you are down after five wagers your account balance will be zeroed out and you will have to deposit at least $500 to become a member.

                                          Withdrawal requests can only be made on Mondays and will be sent out on Tuesdays. Payouts will be processed via Express Check only and will be sent to the name and address listed on your sign up form. You will be charged all transaction fees
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                                          • Chi-Town
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 08-25-08
                                            • 49

                                            #22
                                            BigBlackDog- Are you trying to embarrass me in front of my peers? I have respectfully pleaded my case on the forum. I did not bash you or the book. I even gave the other side of the coin and mentioned I knew other people that liked this book including a family member. I don't appreciate you treating me like joey Jerkoff and telling me you'll send a 2.00 check. To have a fellow poster respond to your post with a " LOL" is unprofessional. I have stated many times I'm not looking for a payout. Allow me ( since you stated it is my money ) to wager it. I have an account at BlackDog just enable the sports on it. I am a reasonable man and sending a 2.00 check is not an option for either of us. If you can't allow me to wager it what do you suppose we do?
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                                            • BIGBLACKDOG
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 08-17-07
                                              • 389

                                              #23
                                              principal

                                              Originally posted by Chi-Town
                                              BigBlackDog- Are you trying to embarrass me in front of my peers? I have respectfully pleaded my case on the forum. I did not bash you or the book. I even gave the other side of the coin and mentioned I knew other people that liked this book including a family member. I don't appreciate you treating me like joey Jerkoff and telling me you'll send a 2.00 check. To have a fellow poster respond to your post with a " LOL" is unprofessional. I have stated many times I'm not looking for a payout. Allow me ( since you stated it is my money ) to wager it. I have an account at BlackDog just enable the sports on it. I am a reasonable man and sending a 2.00 check is not an option for either of us. If you can't allow me to wager it what do you suppose we do?
                                              you mention principal and i am a man of principal. the only true solution to this situation is for us to send you the 2.00 that we owe you. money is not the issue here. you played in the promo, you knew the rules. you do not meet our credit requirements. we owe you 2.00. you will be paid.
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                                              • Chi-Town
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 08-25-08
                                                • 49

                                                #24
                                                Blackie. No need to send the check. Not worth the paper it's printed on. Honestly, please do not send payment. What you can do is tell Sam he is doing a good job. Nice guy to deal with. I will just take the high road. Hope you guys do well this season. Good luck with your endeavors.
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                                                • BIGBLACKDOG
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 08-17-07
                                                  • 389

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Chi-Town
                                                  Blackie. No need to send the check. Not worth the paper it's printed on. Honestly, please do not send payment. What you can do is tell Sam he is doing a good job. Nice guy to deal with. I will just take the high road. Hope you guys do well this season. Good luck with your endeavors.
                                                  chi town thanks for the offer but i´ve never not paid a winner and i don´t plan on starting now. you won you will be paid.
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                                                  • PureGuava
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-26-08
                                                    • 1294

                                                    #26
                                                    35 dollar processing fee on a 37 dollar check? looks like another failing book
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                                                    • BIGBLACKDOG
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 08-17-07
                                                      • 389

                                                      #27
                                                      fedex international fees

                                                      Originally posted by PureGuava
                                                      35 dollar processing fee on a 37 dollar check? looks like another failing book
                                                      we have no control over what fedex charges, its actually a bit more then $35.00. our regular customers get free payouts.
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                                                      • durito
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-03-06
                                                        • 13173

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by PureGuava
                                                        35 dollar processing fee on a 37 dollar check? looks like another failing book
                                                        it cost me $114 to have some documents fedex to me last week from the states.
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                                                        • gm2022
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-28-08
                                                          • 4128

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by durito
                                                          it cost me $114 to have some documents fedex to me last week from the states.
                                                          our you serious?
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                                                          • Dark Horse
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-14-05
                                                            • 13764

                                                            #30
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                                                            • pico
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 04-05-07
                                                              • 27321

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by durito
                                                              it cost me $114 to have some documents fedex to me last week from the states.
                                                              $1 for the fee plus $113 for ransom insurance for the fedex worker in case he got kidnapped by the Farc.
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                                                              • fiveteamer
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-14-08
                                                                • 10805

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by picoman
                                                                $1 for the fee plus $113 for ransom insurance for the fedex worker in case he got kidnapped by the Farc.

                                                                LOL pico.
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                                                                • durito
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                                  • 13173

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by picoman
                                                                  $1 for the fee plus $113 for ransom insurance for the fedex worker in case he got kidnapped by the Farc.
                                                                  the fedex workers in colombia are colombian, they don't have any insurance for them, they make 2$ an hour probably

                                                                  they'd be 1000x better off following the delivery and kidnapping me
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                                                                  • bettilimbroke999
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-04-08
                                                                    • 13254

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Mailing a $2 check at $35 expense , one of the all-time stupidest things I've ever heard of, can't you just send it regular mail for 42 cents
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                                                                    • durito
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                                      • 13173

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                                      Mailing a $2 check at $35 expense , one of the all-time stupidest things I've ever heard of, can't you just send it regular mail for 42 cents

                                                                      The book is not in the United States.
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