Don't play at SBG if you want to get paid

[Nicky Santoro]

they outright stiffed me for 18,300 for no reason.. i beat them badly and they just decided to not pay me.. owner told me to go fukk myself.

this after they called me 200x soliciting me on the phone begging me to play with them..


THIS IS A FRAUD BOOK.. IF YOU WIN, THEY WON'T PAY YOU.. TRUST ME..

but the previous years, i was losing big to them and they totally loved me.. rolled out the red carpet for me.. offered me big bonuses to come back..

then when i came back, i got hot as hell.. made what i lost back, and a bit more.. i even gave them good action.. never played steam, just played their off lines before game time.. and when i started winning, they kept on lowering my limits each week, more and more.. then at the end, they tell me, go fukk yourself, you will not see a penny


BOYS, IF YOU ARE A 10$ DOLLAR TO 200$ BETTOR, YOU MIGHT BE OK.. BUT IF YOU ARE A 500 DOLLAR OR MORE BETTOR AND YOU GET HOT,

YOU WILL NOT GET PAID

TRUST ME ON THIS.


THIS IS A SCAM BOOK.

[bigboydan]

I believe you on this Mr.Nicky. I've seen SBG steal a lot more than just your 18+ dimes over the years.

[donjuan]

Why would you leave 18k in SBG? Pinnacle, sure, but SBG?

[Nicky Santoro]

bbd, they really will steal your money, and they have no remorse. they love to collect, but hate paying..


donny, i am naive i guess. this was about 3 yrs ago.. when everyone was raving about how sbg is now a solid book.. i had no idea they would steal this money.. sbg was a pretty big name back then.. now, all i hear is people getting stiffed there.

STAY AWAY BOYS..

[Panic]

That fvckin sucks. Sorry to hear that, Nicky.

[jjgold]

We just downgraded them to an F

I heard no one is getting paid there

Are they bankrupt?

[Nicky Santoro]

thanks panner

jj, this was 3 yrs ago, i don't know anymore how they are.. but once a stiff, always a stiff..

they are bad news boys

STAY AWAY.. they don't care.. they will just tell you to go fukk yourself and not pay you.. if you win money there..

but if you intend on losing money, then they will be your best book, cause they are great at collecting money.. they collect with open hands and a smile. the only problem is when they lose.. then you have a problem.

[jjgold]

Nicky I heard they owe a few guys over 10k and said they do not have the money to pay

This book might be closing

[durito]

they just stole $500,000 from someone recently

[durito]

Nicky I heard they owe a few guys over 10k and said they do not have the money to pay

This book might be closing

they wont close. they just stiff big winners and idiots like the jrichshow keep playing there because they never win.

[InTheHole]

Nicky...WagerWeb called me and offered a 75% reload. Should I hammer them?

[bigboydan]

bbd, they really will steal your money,

They only thing they love to do more than stealing your money is rewriting there own rules during the middle of your rollover in order to do it.

[accuscoresucks]

i wouldnt keep more than 2k in each book 3 books tops and thats @ a+ rating
anything more would be foolish

[JC]

Try taking it to Shrink/EOG.

They used to be an advertiser there so he may be able to help you get your money.

[durito]

i wouldnt keep more than 2k in each book 3 books tops and thats @ a+ rating
anything more would be foolish

well, that's just ridiculous

you can keep as much as you want in pinnacle/matchbook, etc.

[sofun]

BBD, SBR can't do anything about this to help this guys out, if not then at least they deserve FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF rating or a big banner with Scam book.

[accuscoresucks]

well, that's just ridiculous

you can keep as much as you want in pinnacle/matchbook, etc.

thats all i need to play with
the rest i stick under fluffy my pillow woman

the banks can suck me to ran by a corrupt goverment

[Nicky Santoro]

inner,

stay away from wageweb.. they too are calling me off the hook.. they used to be great back in early 2000's. had tons of $$ there.. never a problem. today, things have changed..

bbd, they changed rules on me too. the day i finally reached rollover after 1.5 months, the next day, they closed my acct and took my bonus too.. they said they wont give me any money or bonus because i only play weak lines, which they said i was a professional.. so nicky, go fukk yourself, you are not seeing a cent..

but when i was losing big to them the previous year, i was playing same style, and they totally loved me and offered me bigger bonuses.

i am telling you boys, i dont know any book that loves taking your money more than sbg.. they are great at taking deposits, i'll give them that much credit. the only problem is when you now start to win.. now it's trouble..

[JC]

They are also a BIG advertiser at the RX, they were even a main sponsor of the Rx bash, I guess on your dollar.

Please post it over there since they only allow first hand negative posts about advertisers and maybe Wilheim can help you.

[Nicky Santoro]

thanks jc, but shrink hates me.. he might actually collect the money for me, then take a vacation with it with his wife..

i agree that pinny and matchy and wsex are 3 books that i sleep like a baby at night knowing my money is safe.. aside from that, maybe olympic is still good.. but no more..

that's it.. i dont care.. no other books would i sleep like a baby knowing my money is there. i dont trust anymore books. i hve been with every book out there.. and i have seen some solid books go under..

[Chi-Town]

SCAM BOOK. I deposited with a CC. Just happened to be a PayPal debit card but it was at the time accepted like a regular CC. I won 2 dimes went to collect. They wanted a fax of the card . NO PROBLEM. I faxed it and they saw paypal and confiscated the winnings because Paypal is not used for gambling purposes. I fought it but got nowhere. It was way before I was member of forum or else I would have filed complaint.

[Nicky Santoro]

jc,

when it happened, i went to wilheim right away, and he emailed me and said, sorry pal, they wont budge. i tried and tried..they said no.. then i tried asking (forgot his name) another mod. (he's indian and from ottawa).. i emailed him, he told me he'd call them and get back to me.. he never responded to me again.. he completely ignored 8 straight emails of mine.

and these 2 guys knew me well too. we were tight.. especially me and willie back in the days.

but these guys were protecting sbg.. cause they never took em off their list.. jc, they love them and stick by them

[SBR_John]

Damn what a shame.

If they can't beat the player they end up stealing the money. They stole 60 dimes from Shrink so not even forum owners are safe at this scambook.

[Nicky Santoro]

i swear johnny, 1 yr prior to that, i couldn't win a game.. i was getting smoked, and they loved me.. they literally rolled out the red carpet for me.. they even offered me a free trip to their offices with hotel and all.. i was singlehandedly paying their rent, employees.. they loved me.. when i called to speak to someone, once i said my acct #, their tone changed. hi sir, how are you sir.. i felt like a sucker..

then it all changed.. when i started to get hot.. they started hating me.. i never asked for a payout.. so they still liked me a bit. and still kept taking bets from me. .then when i finally asked for a payout.. they shut down my acct and told me i was a pro and they are not paying me, and to go fukk myself. i am not a pro, i just happened to beat them playing their weak lines that they were not moving ever.

all was good until i finally made a request for a payout.. that's when the trouble started. had i never requested a payout till today, i might still be playing there and thinking they are a solid book..

stay away from sbg boys, and you will thank me

[SlickFazzer]

Good info Nicky.

Only a small handful of books worth doing business with anymore.

[JC]

You really need to post this at The Rx and put some public pressure on them.

[Spanks]

Damn Nick that sucks...Why would you play at a book rated -D for awhile now...i think its at F now...

[Bill Dozer]

i swear johnny, 1 yr prior to that, i couldn't win a game.. i was getting smoked, and they loved me.. they literally rolled out the red carpet for me.. they even offered me a free trip to their offices with hotel and all.. i was singlehandedly paying their rent, employees.. they loved me.. when i called to speak to someone, once i said my acct #, their tone changed. hi sir, how are you sir.. i felt like a sucker..

then it all changed.. when i started to get hot.. they started hating me.. i never asked for a payout.. so they still liked me a bit. and still kept taking bets from me. .then when i finally asked for a payout.. they shut down my acct and told me i was a pro and they are not paying me, and to go fukk myself. i am not a pro, i just happened to beat them playing their weak lines that they were not moving ever.

all was good until i finally made a request for a payout.. that's when the trouble started. had i never requested a payout till today, i might still be playing there and thinking they are a solid book..

stay away from sbg boys, and you will thank me

Nicky,

Didn't SBR assist you getting 5 figures of that back some months later? I do remember your case and it was blatant theft. 18k sounds like the amount in winnings they stiffed you for.

[Spanks]

I hope you get it back Nicky...

[Nicky Santoro]

thanks spanky.. but it was 3 yrs ago and sbg was a c book then..

yes billy, i failed to mention that you did help me get back about 9500 for me.. thanks..so my acct was much higher than 18,300 and the only reason they paid me he told me was the girl who processed the NETeller withdraw was not supposed to do it, as there was a note saying to freeze my acct. so i got so lucky back then to have gotten 9500 extra..

billy, i know you would tell me to forget it, it's a dead cause.. but JC is telling me to go to rx.. but i did go to rx 3 yrs ago and they all completely avoided me for 8 emails straight.

i have forgotten about it completely.. i just wanted to tell everyone here to be careful, cause i saw one guy playing there today and happy, so i wanted to remind everyone to stay away.
i had no intentions of this thread at all..

[SBR_John]

A good reminder.

You go on a roll at SBG like Nicky did, you GET rolled and smoked.

[fiveteamer]

therx is really at fault here because they help to legitimize scam operations like this.

What a bunch of ****ing scumbags.

[madmaxx]

but they just sent me something in the mail saying how awesome they are

[mminkovski]

Thank you guys for the sharing the experience with this bookie! They have a juicy 30% promo for new customers but I would never sign up after checking the forum and SBR reviews.

[Karla]

I'm also trying to sign up but since i read this forum and heard several "not so good rumors" about them. I'd rather choose other books and I'm lucky that I didn't encounter this in my current books @ "188bet and 12bet". Gudluck all bros outa der!!