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  • Hawkeye2011
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-12-11
    • 840

    #141
    Originally posted by stevenash
    This campaign speech last night was supposed to be the “bookend” to Obama’s class warfare speech he made in Osawatomie, Kansas last year. In that speech, Obama talked about the need for “fairness” fifteen times. Last night, he paired it back to only six mentions of the need for “fairness” or millionaires to pay their “fair share.” Obammus DID managed to mention the other F-word once: freedom. Someone also snuck the word liberty – once – into the speech. Must have been a mistake No mention of personal responsibility, but only the responsibility of rich people to pay their fair share.
    We also have the “I” word. Obama used that one 45 times. And some people seem to have a problem with people telling them what they “should” and “shouldn’t” do. That word showed up 28 times.
    But let’s go through some of the more absurd assertions in Obama’s campaign speech:
    Jobs
    Obama claims: “In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than three million jobs.”
    The truth: Yes, 3 million new jobs were created. But during the same period 5 million jobs were lost. Even a government school student can do this math. That means a net loss of 2 million jobs. The fact is that there are fewer Americans working today than there were when Obama took office. Our labor force has shrunk from a participation rate of 64.6% to 64% in just two years. In fact, if the same number of Americans were looking for jobs today as were in 2007, our unemployment rate would be closer to 11%. And that doesn’t even take into account the number of Americans who are underemployed at the moment.
    At one time an effective line to be used on someone from the moocher class demonizing the rich was: “Well, then why don’t you go get a job from a poor person when you decide to actually start looking?” Now the response is “I don’t need to. The government is supposed to get me a job.”
    Jobs Overseas
    Obama says: “Right now, companies get tax breaks for moving jobs and profits overseas. Meanwhile, companies that choose to stay in America get hit with one of the highest tax rates in the world. It makes no sense, and everyone knows it. So let's change it.”
    The problem: Obama is absolutely right. Our corporate tax rate is the highest among industrialized nations. Notice, though, that Obama’s solution doesn’t include lowering that rate! Duhhhhhh! Instead of lowering tax rates at home to perhaps attract foreign investment in America, Obama’s solution is to punish the people who are already here. He wants to erect an economic Berlin Wall --- not as much to keep other businesses out, but to keep American businesses locked in. If you keep these jobs here you’ll have to pay our absurdly high corporate income tax rates. If you try to move your manufacturing processes overseas we’ll punish you with some more confiscatory tax rates. That’s the way to create jobs in America.
    Let me make this absolutely clear: The jobs belong to the businesses .. not to Obama ... not to the workers .. not to the government. I’m sure many of them would ideally like to create jobs in America, but until we get serious about tax reform (and not just trimming around the edges with some incentives), those jobs will be created wherever the company feels is best and that is absolutely their prerogative.
    Teachers
    Obama says: “At a time when other countries are doubling down on education, tight budgets have forced States to lay off thousands of teachers.”
    The problem: Despite what the Democrats may claim, we actually have more teachers in the classrooms than ever before. The number of teachers has increased at a faster pace compared to student enrollment. Does that really make any sense? From 1971 to 1984, the number of students in government school actually declined by 15%, while the number of teachers increased by 7%. In 1955, the number of students per teacher was at 26.9. By 2010, that figure has been lowered to 15.6 students per teacher. It seems that the higher the student-teacher ratio the worse our system works. Now I would maintain that the REAL problem is the bloated number of administrators, but that doesn’t make as sexy of an applause line as teachers getting fired.
    Higher Education
    Obama says: “Higher education can't be a luxury — it's an economic imperative that every family in America should be able to afford.”
    The problem: Yet another entitlement to add to the growing list of things that libs and proggies believe they should receive by virtue of the fact that they exist and they want it. Not everyone needs to go to college. Some of our most successful entrepreneurs, in fact, bailed out after high school to pursue their dreams.
    Illegal Immigration
    Obama claims: “I believe as strongly as ever that we should take on illegal immigration. That's why my Administration has put more boots on the border than ever before. That's why there are fewer illegal crossings than when I took office.”
    The truth: Obama gets this one half right. You can read the fact checking here from Poli-fact on the number of boots on the ground at the border. But where Obama gets it wrong is that there aren’t fewer illegals coming to this country because of these agents … the illegals aren’t coming because our economy is in the crapper! The reason they were coming illegally in the first place is because of the giant magnet of American economic opportunity. Thanks to Obammus, we aren’t worried about opportunity. We are now worried on equality. Let’s see how far THAT gets us.
    Oil
    Obama claims: “Right now, American oil production is the highest that it's been in eight years.”
    The truth: What Obama doesn’t tell you is that this has nothing to do with his administration or his policies. In fact, oil production on federal land is DOWN by 40%. Oil production is high because of those evil, private oil companies increasing production on PRIVATE, not government lands. These private lands are not subject to the same level of government regulation as are federal lands. The lesson here is pretty easy to comprehend. More government, less production. Less government, more production. How about another duhhhhhhh.
    Regulations
    Obama claims: “In fact, I've approved fewer regulations in the first three years of my presidency than my Republican predecessor did in his.”
    The truth: It’s not the number of regulations, it’s the regulations themselves .. the oppressiveness and affect on private business. According to the Heritage Foundation: “During its first 26 months—from taking office to mid-FY 2011—the Obama Administration has imposed 75 new major regulations with reported costs to the private sector exceeding $40 billion. During the same period, six major rulemaking proceedings reduced regulatory burdens by an estimated $1.5 billion, still leaving a net increase of more than $38 billion … No other President has burdened businesses and individuals with a higher number and larger cost of regulations in a comparable time period.”
    Wall Street
    Obama claims: “I will not go back to the days when Wall Street was allowed to play by its own set of rules.”
    The truth: Wall Street has never been able to play by its own set of rules. This is a line that liberals use in order to divert attention from the real culprit: the federal government. And unfortunately, the Obama administration hasn’t done anything to make it better. The structural problems from 2008 have only been compounded and are now worse under Dodd-Frank. Meanwhile, don’t bother expounding on the fact that it was Democrats who blocked reforms of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the entities responsible for the housing collapse and the ensuing financial crisis.
    Taxes
    Obama claims: “Right now, we're poised to spend nearly $1 trillion more on what was supposed to be a temporary tax break for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans.”
    The truth: Don’t you just love that liberals view the money that you’ve earned as money that THEY are spending? The official government phrase is “tax expenditures.” The concept is that you belong to the government, and therefore the money that you earn belongs to the government. Money that you earn that remains in your pocket is money “spent” by the government. Obama is tired of “spending” all this money on you.
    Debt
    Obama claims: “Do we want to keep these tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans? Or do we want to keep our investments in everything else — like education and medical research; a strong military and care for our veterans? Because if we're serious about paying down our debt, we can't do both.”
    The truth: This is not, and never should be, an either/or scenario. The fact is that increasing taxes on the rich … or in prog-talk that’s “letting tax cuts expire for wealthy Americans … is no way to pay down our debt. Our government is spending too much, that’s the problem! The truth is that the only way for the government to solve its fiscal issues with revenue would be to confiscate every single dollar from every single American making $200,000 or more per year. Taxing the nation’s millionaires at 50% – even eliminating loopholes and deductions – would only reduce the deficit by 8% and the national debt by 1%.
    The Buffett Tax
    I think we’ll need another Nuze entry to tackle this one ...



    THE FACTS: This is at least Obama's third run at stripping subsidies from the oil industry. Back when [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]fellow [COLOR=blue !important]Democrats[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] formed the House and Senate majorities, he sought $36.5 billion in tax increases on oil and gas companies over the next decade, but Congress largely ignored the request. He called again to end such tax breaks in last year's State of the Union speech. And he's now doing it again, despite facing a wall of opposition from Republicans who want to spur domestic oil and gas production and oppose tax increases generally.
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    OBAMA: "Our health care law relies on a reformed private market, not a government program."
    THE FACTS: That's only half true. About half of the more than 30 million uninsured Americans expected to gain coverage through the health care law will be enrolled in a government program. Medicaid, the federal-state program for low-income people, will be expanded starting in 2014 to cover childless adults living near the poverty line.
    The other half will be enrolled in private health plans through new state-based insurance markets. But many of them will be receiving federal subsidies to make their premiums more affordable. And that's a government program, too.
    Starting in 2014 most Americans will be required to carry health coverage, either through an employer, by buying their own plan, or through a government program.
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    OBAMA: "Tonight, I want to speak about how we move forward, and lay out a blueprint for an economy that's built to last - an economy built on American manufacturing, American energy, skills for American workers, and a renewal of American values."
    THE FACTS: Economists do see manufacturing growth as a necessary component of any U.S. recovery. U.S. manufacturing output climbed 0.9 percent in December, the biggest gain since December 2010. Yet Obama's apparent vision of a nation once again propelled by manufacturing -- a vision shared by many Republicans -- may already have slipped into the past.
    Over generations, the economy has become ever more driven by services; not since 1975 has the U.S. had a surplus in merchandise trade, which covers trade in goods, including manufactured and farm goods. About 90 percent of American workers are employed in the service sector, a profound shift in the nature of the workforce over many decades.
    The overall trade deficit through the first 11 months of 2011 ran at an annual rate of nearly $600 billion, up almost 12 percent from the year before.
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    OBAMA: "The Taliban's momentum has been broken, and some troops in Afghanistan have begun to come home."
    THE FACTS: Obama is more sanguine about progress in Afghanistan than his own intelligence apparatus. The latest National Intelligence Estimate on Afghanistan warns that the Taliban will grow stronger, using fledgling talks with the U.S. to gain credibility and stall until U.S. troops leave, while continuing to fight for more territory. The classified assessment, described to The Associated Press by officials who have seen it, says the Afghan government hasn't been able to establish credibility with its people, and predicts the Taliban and warlords will largely control the countryside.
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    OBAMA: "On the day I took office, our auto industry was on the verge of collapse. Some even said we should let it die. With a million jobs at stake, I refused to let that happen. In exchange for help, we demanded responsibility. We got workers and automakers to settle their differences. We got the industry to retool and restructure. Today, General Motors is back on top as the world's number one automaker. Chrysler has grown faster in the U.S. than any major car company. Ford is investing billions in U.S. plants and factories. And together, the entire industry added nearly 160,000 jobs."
    THE FACTS: He left out some key details. The bailout of General Motors and Chrysler began under [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]Republican [COLOR=blue !important]President[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] George W. Bush. Obama picked up the ball, earmarked more money, and finished the job. But Ford, which Obama mentions as well, never asked for a federal bailout and never got one. It's managed to get along on its own. Also, as part of its restructuring, Chrysler is not really a U.S. automaker anymore. Italian automaker Fiat now owns a 30 percent share, and it will eventually go to 51 percent under terms of the U.S. bailout and its bankruptcy restructuring.
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    • Hawkeye2011
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-12-11
      • 840

      #142
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      • King Mayan
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-22-10
        • 21326

        #143
        Originally posted by Hawkeye2011
        Every president has a movie reel of lies...

        Sorry guy..

        The biggest liar was Reagan and you fukk idolize him.. So stop with the hypocrisy..
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        • Hawkeye2011
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-12-11
          • 840

          #144
          Originally posted by King Mayan
          Every president has a movie reel of lies...

          Sorry guy..

          The biggest liar was Reagan and you fukk idolize him.. So stop with the hypocrisy..
          I am pretty sure I haven't meantioned Reagan once ever in my time on SBR. Just another Dem making crazy statement with no facts to make things sound good
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          • Hawkeye2011
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-12-11
            • 840

            #145


            Here is an other one while I am at it
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            • Carseller4
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-22-09
              • 19627

              #146
              Originally posted by Andy117
              Look at the chart, gas prices were high during most of Bush's presidency and only dropped like a rock in October of 08 thru Election Day and December. If you blame Obama for the price now, did you blame Bush then?
              I still blame Obama.

              Because these high gas prices are caused by environmentalist wackos, and Obama supports their views.
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              • King Mayan
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-22-10
                • 21326

                #147
                Originally posted by Hawkeye2011
                I am pretty sure I haven't meantioned Reagan once ever in my time on SBR. Just another Dem making crazy statement with no facts to make things sound good
                you have facts??

                All I see is YouTube videos and copy and paste posts..

                You don't idolize Reagan? Wow I found one..
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                • Hawkeye2011
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-12-11
                  • 840

                  #148
                  Originally posted by King Mayan
                  you have facts??

                  All I see is YouTube videos and copy and paste posts..

                  You don't idolize Reagan? Wow I found one..
                  not worth my time
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                  • ttwarrior1
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 06-23-09
                    • 28454

                    #149
                    a professor on a ghost account and on sbr all day
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                    • itchypickle
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-05-09
                      • 21452

                      #150
                      Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                      a professor on a ghost account and on sbr all day
                      Univ of Phoenix Sit back and grade from the message boards and Blackboard platform.
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                      • Balco10
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-11-10
                        • 5478

                        #151
                        Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                        this is some good stuff
                        If you are listening. I would love to know what you disagree with what he is saying.

                        He can't pass anything because republicans are greedy people that only think of themselves and are only for the rich.

                        Obama is not saying one negative thing about an republican and only saying good stuff

                        Step up people and answer if your a republican. What do you disagree with???

                        You can say he is all talk, but he can't pass this stuff if congress won't let him and make up lies.

                        When are the republicans going to start talking about the issues instead of talking about releasing taxes??
                        Everything he said was untruthful! It was recycled from his previous address....Obama is a far left socialist and is out is destroy our country. Unbelievable that you can not see that! I refuse to show documents to show prove cuz your a far left loon with one mind!
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                        • Balco10
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-11-10
                          • 5478

                          #152
                          Obama is out to destroy the American way! He is following in his father foots steps that told him to destroy America!
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                          • MoneyLineDawg
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-01-09
                            • 13253

                            #153
                            Originally posted by Balco10
                            Everything he said was untruthful! It was recycled from his previous address....Obama is a far left socialist and is out is destroy our country. Unbelievable that you can not see that! I refuse to show documents to show prove cuz your a far left loon with one mind!
                            His presidency has been overall one of a moderate republican......Socialist my ass
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                            • Balco10
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-11-10
                              • 5478

                              #154
                              His Father was a very socialist guy that was never invited to visit American. He hated our ways and now we have his son as our current president to destroy the USA. I am sure his dad is very proud of him!
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                              • Balco10
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-11-10
                                • 5478

                                #155
                                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                His presidency has been overall one of a moderate republican......Socialist my ass
                                You are clearly misguided!
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                                • Balco10
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-11-10
                                  • 5478

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                  His presidency has been overall one of a moderate republican......Socialist my ass
                                  What do you watch the local news! Or maybe you don't watch news! Or maybe you do and its MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX, or NPR!

                                  You are clearly ******* miss guided!
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                                  • MoneyLineDawg
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-01-09
                                    • 13253

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Balco10
                                    You are clearly misguided!
                                    No. What has he done as president so far that is socialist? Please name atleast 3 notable things.....It shouldn't be hard for such a big socialist, right?
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                                    • Balco10
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-11-10
                                      • 5478

                                      #158
                                      Barack Obama Sr. (Dad)
                                      *Communist who saw nothing wrong with government ‘taxing 100%’ so long as the people got benefits…
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                                      • Balco10
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-11-10
                                        • 5478

                                        #159
                                        *Abandoned Barack Obama Jr. when he was 2 years old to continue at Harvard (teaching son that ideology is more important than family)
                                        Stanley Ann Dunham (Mom)
                                        *Communist sympathizer
                                        *Practiced ‘critical theory’ (aka Marxism)
                                        *Influenced by Nietzsche and Freud
                                        *Left Hawaii for Indonesia, Pakistan
                                        *Attended a leftist church nicknamed the ‘little red church’ because of its Communist sympathies
                                        *Left Barack Obama Jr.
                                        Mentor
                                        *Barack’s grandparents introduced Barack Obama Jr. to poet and communist Frank Marshall Davis (Link)
                                        *Davis becomes a mentor as young Barack struggled with abandonment by parents
                                        College & Church
                                        *Admittedly sought out ‘Marxist’ professors (Link)
                                        *Admittedly attended ‘socialist conferences’ (Link)
                                        *Began attending a Marxist church – led by pastor Jeremiah Wright (attended for 20 years) (Link)
                                        Career
                                        *Tragedy of the Warren Court: No redistributive change (Link)
                                        *Voted for TARP (Link)
                                        *$787 billion stimulus redistribution bill
                                        *Healthcare bill admittedly about ‘redistributing the wealth’
                                        *Single Payer Healthcare proponent (Link)
                                        *President Obama now also President of GM & Chrysler
                                        *President Obama seizes control of insurance giant AIG
                                        *President Obama is leading America to single payer healthcare
                                        *President Obama seized control of Student Loan industry in order to ‘cut out middle man’
                                        *President Obama seizes control in massive land grabs
                                        *Repeatedly vilifies ‘the rich’
                                        *Obama believes race problems can be solved through redistribution of wealth… he said "race is still an enormous factor in our society. But economics can overcome a lot of racial division."
                                        *Trying to regulate the Internet via FCC
                                        *Forces mortgage co’s to cover people who aren’t paying mortgage (Link)
                                        *Extends unemployment benefits to 99 weeks (Link)
                                        *Told Joe the plumber ‘it’s better when you spread things around’ (Link)
                                        Family, Friends, Advisors & Administration
                                        *Wife Michelle Obama said “The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.”
                                        *Jim Wallis, Obama’s spiritual advisor & forced redistribution of wealth advocate
                                        *Van Jones, disgraced Green Jobs Czar & Communist
                                        *Ron Bloom, Manufacturing Czar & anti-free market
                                        *John Holdren, pro-redistribution of wealth
                                        *Andy Stern, SEIU President & redistribution of wealth fan
                                        *Anita Dunn, fan of Chairman Mao
                                        *Mark Lloyd, FCC ‘Diversity Czar’
                                        *Carol Browner, socialist
                                        *Robert Creamer, socialist
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                                        • Balco10
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-11-10
                                          • 5478

                                          #160
                                          Does it make any sense after his state of the union what he is after now?
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                                          • Hotdiggity11
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-09-09
                                            • 4916

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Balco10
                                            Does it make any sense after his state of the union what he is after now?

                                            Yes, policies that benefit the middle class. Quite the relief.
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                                            • andywend
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-20-07
                                              • 4805

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                              Im not a democrat and i did disagree with obama care. I think most people, even myself understood it.
                                              When a die-hard liberal democrat like ttwarrior says "I'm not a democrat", that speaks volumes.
                                              Republicans could care less about the blacks, poor, low , low middle or even the middle class.
                                              The #1 goal of the democratic party is to make sure that poor people remain poor and giving people government handouts for doing absolutely nothing GUARANTEES it.
                                              Rich get richer and take from everyone else if republicans get back in office.
                                              Please explain exactly how the rich get richer by taking from everyone else? If Obama said the moon was made of green cheese, you would defend that statement as an absolute fact.
                                              Im not saying give handouts, but they bailed out the rich banks didnt they?
                                              Which party voted against the bailout the 1st time around only to be pressured by liberal democrats into supporting it the 2nd time around? The democrats were "chomping at the bit" to bail out the banks because they knew full well that once that was done, the chances of passing all of their socialistic crap down the road got a hell of a lot better.

                                              Not surprisingly, Obama and the democrats were finally able to push through ObamaCare a year later.
                                              TTWarrior, you're absolutely clueless.
                                              You would vote for him because you are a broke **** democrat living in a tool shed
                                              JerseyLove, very well stated.
                                              I could care less about lazy people, black or white, that dont want to work but have kids so they get welfare and a free cell phone. They dont deserve anything and feel entitled to everything
                                              I would take your statement a step further and wish there was some way to time-warp these disgusting lazy leeches to a different century.

                                              The federal and state governments need to draw a line in the sand RIGHT NOW. If you work full-time (40 hours per week or more), then you're eligible for federal assistance if needed along with medical care, etc.

                                              Minimum wage laws need to be repealed until the unemployment rate falls below 5%. Let an employer pay their employees $5/hour and abolish all labor unions. Businesses will expand and jobs will open up all over the place. Supplement minimum wage earners with all the benefits described above and our weak economy will turn around and our country will once again begin to flourish.

                                              For all of this to happen, there needs to be the harshest of penalties for those who refuse to work full-time and that means leaving them to rot in the streets.
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                                              • MonkeyF0cker
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-12-07
                                                • 12144

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by andywend
                                                Which party voted against the bailout the 1st time around only to be pressured by liberal democrats into supporting it the 2nd time around? The democrats were "chomping at the bit" to bail out the banks because they knew full well that once that was done, the chances of passing all of their socialistic crap down the road got a hell of a lot better.
                                                Are you talking about the Bush/Paulson bailout plan? I think you are.
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                                                • mikejamm
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 08-24-09
                                                  • 11045

                                                  #164
                                                  Doesn't matter what you brain washed republicans think! He's up in the polls after last nights state of the union address. He once again put Seal Team 6 into action and rescued two Americans from ignorant dumbass solmali pirates, killing 9 of those worthless scum and no loss of American soldiers. Of course I'm sure you wont hear any republicans give him credit for it! He told congress to send him a bill stoping profit making on insider trading by politicians. Lets see if the republican controlled congress fuks will do it, I lay 2-1 odds, those shit heads will never give up their gravy train! Bottom line, Obama kicks ass! He's not taking any shit from anybody and he's a smart black man. Just burns your republican ass to have a guy with some actual intelligence in the White house doesn't it? Go ahead, send up your best bitch boy nominee, Obama will fuk'in slaughter him!

                                                  Do you actually believe the American pubic is gonna vote for a rich ass, out of touch, millioniare mormon, who hides his millions and didn't have the balls to release his 15% bullshit tax returns until his rivals called his ass out? What a pussy! By all means, waste your vote!

                                                  Which brings us to Mr. Fat boy racist fuk fig Newton! Who would certainly bring back slavery, child labor and title it, "Jobs for Black Peoples!" Education? Your kids don't need no education, we'll just fire and deport the Mexican janitor and give your kid a broom. "There you go son, you have a job, not the one you want, but since you were born poor and black with no sliver spoon in your mouth, fuk you." And how about his latest, "The day I'm elected, we'll have a space station on the Moon and Mars." Wow really Newt? Looks like you rich fuk's will have a place to run to when you finish ass fuking the planet! Hang on to that dream bud, hang on! The only thing Newt douchebag is gonna win is that blonde bimbo wife he's got now, and she must be pretty damn air headed to climb up and fuk that fat piece of greasy rich republican shit!
                                                  Obama his all the minority voters, Black, Hispanic, Asians, he has all the women voters, he's got all the gay voters, he has the military voters, because he actually did what the fuk he said he was gonna do and brought our boys home. He's taken out several radical islamic muslim piece of shit terrorists. And most of all, he has the balance of Americans in our country who are sick and tired of rich fuks who don't want to pay their fair share!

                                                  Stick a fork in your ass republicans....you're fuk'in done! I'm already look'in forward to the mid terms when America votes out the rest of those non comprimising assholes and we take back control of the house! Just like the recall vote up in Wisconsin that's gonna send republican governor dick head scott walker out the fuk'in door! Firemen, policemen, teachers, nurses and other hard working people are tired of having bullshit agendas jammed down their throats, for the benefit of rich lobbyists who line the pockets of pricks like him!
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                                                  • andywend
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-20-07
                                                    • 4805

                                                    #165
                                                    Are you talking about the Bush/Paulson bailout plan? I think you are.
                                                    Bush had very little to do with the bailout plan other than signing it into law but considering he was an extremely liberal republican, I wasn't surprised how much he supported it.

                                                    Liberal democrats like to refer to the TARP bailout plan as something only the republicans wanted and nothing could be further from the truth.

                                                    The democrats overwhelmingly supported it and the republicans strongly opposed it so it did NOT pass the first time around. Only after intense pressure was applied did the republicans cave and voted for it on the 2nd attempt.

                                                    MikeJamm, it doesn't really matter if Obama gets re-elected president as nothing could help the failure-ridden democratic party support base like yourself. The democrats controlled all 3 branches of government in 2009 and 2010 and did you see any improvement in your pathetic life or the lives of other democrats? Of course not!!!

                                                    Very little has changed since the 2010 mid-term elections where your democrats got their ASSES HANDED TO THEM ON A SILVER PLATTER. The voters made it clear they wanted the republicans to stop Obama and thats exactly what they have done. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that the upcoming 2012 election is going to go well for the democrats and the real money markets say exactly the same thing:

                                                    <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#333333><TBODY><TR class="darkTH FontSmall" align=center><TH>Contract</TH><TH>B Qty</TH><TH>Bid</TH><TH>Ask</TH><TH>A Qty</TH><TH>Last</TH><TH>Vol</TH><TH>Chge</TH></TR><TR id=row639654 bgColor=#d2e5fe><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title639654 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 Senate Control The Democrats to control the Senate after 2012 Congressional Elections" noWrap>Trade SENATE.DEM.2012 </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=bidSize639654 class=quant>1</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=bidPrice639654 class=price title="" align=right>19.2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=offerPrice639654 class=price title="">26.3</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=offerSize639654 class=quant>3</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=ltp639654 title="">20.1</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=vol639654>863</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=change639654 noWrap>0</TD></TR><TR id=row639655 bgColor=#eff0f0><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #eff0f0; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title639655 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 Senate Control The Republicans to control the Senate after 2012 Congressional Elections" noWrap>Trade SENATE.REP.2012 </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidSize639655 class=quant>320</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidPrice639655 class=price title="" align=right>75.0</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerPrice639655 class=price title="">77.2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerSize639655 class=quant>2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=ltp639655 title="">75.0</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=vol639655>3121</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=change639655 noWrap>0</TD></TR><TR id=row639656 bgColor=#ffffff><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title639656 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 Senate Control Neither Party to control the Senate after 2012 Congressional Elections" noWrap>Trade SENATE.NEITHER.2012 </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=bidSize639656 class=quant>8</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=bidPrice639656 class=price title="" align=right>5.0</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=offerPrice639656 class=price title="">5.4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=offerSize639656 class=quant>2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=ltp639656 title="">5.0</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=vol639656>855</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=change639656 noWrap>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

                                                    <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#333333><TBODY><TR class="darkTH FontSmall" align=center><TH> Contract</TH><TH>B Qty</TH><TH>Bid</TH><TH>Ask</TH><TH>A Qty</TH><TH>Last</TH><TH>Vol</TH><TH>Chge</TH></TR><TR id=row639651 bgColor=#d2e5fe><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title639651 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 House of Representatives Control The Democrats to control the House of Representatives after 2012 Congressional Elections" noWrap>Trade HOUSE.DEM.2012 </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=bidSize639651 class=quant>2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=bidPrice639651 class=price title="" align=right>29.7</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=offerPrice639651 class=price title="">33.8</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=offerSize639651 class=quant>2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=ltp639651 title="">33.4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=vol639651>6966</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=change639651 noWrap>0</TD></TR><TR id=row639652 bgColor=#eff0f0><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #eff0f0; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title639652 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 House of Representatives Control The Republicans to control the House of Representatives after 2012 Congressional Elections" noWrap>Trade HOUSE.REP.2012 </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidSize639652 class=quant>2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidPrice639652 class=price title="" align=right>67.2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerPrice639652 class=price title="">70.6</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerSize639652 class=quant>2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=ltp639652 title="">70.9</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=vol639652>4370</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=change639652 noWrap>0</TD></TR><TR id=row639653 bgColor=#ffffff><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title639653 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 House of Representatives Control Neither Party to control the House of Representatives after 2012 Congressional Elections" noWrap>Trade HOUSE.NEITHER.2012 </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=bidSize639653 class=quant>10</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=bidPrice639653 class=price title="" align=right>0.4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=offerPrice639653 class=price title="">0.5</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=offerSize639653 class=quant>25</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=ltp639653 title="">0.4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=vol639653>263</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=change639653 noWrap>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

                                                    20% chance the democrats hold onto the senate. 30% chance they take back the house. I LOVE THOSE NUMBERS!!!

                                                    Even your food stamp president Obama only has a 55% chance of winning re-election (Bush was trading around 65% at this point in time in 2004)

                                                    <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#333333><TBODY><TR class="darkTH FontSmall" align=center><TH>Contract</TH><TH>B Qty</TH><TH>Bid</TH><TH>Ask</TH><TH>A Qty</TH><TH>Last</TH><TH>Vol</TH><TH>Chge</TH></TR><TR id=row743474 bgColor=#d2e5fe><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title743474 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012" noWrap>Trade 2012.PRES.OBAMA </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=bidSize743474 class=quant>15</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=bidPrice743474 class=price title="" align=right>54.8</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=offerPrice743474 class=price title="">55.9</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=offerSize743474 class=quant>4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=ltp743474 title="1:14:08PM GMT">54.9</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=vol743474>93.0k</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #d2e5fe" id=change743474 noWrap>-0.1</TD></TR><TR id=row743475 bgColor=#eff0f0><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #eff0f0; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title743475 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012" noWrap>Trade 2012.PRES.ROMNEY </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidSize743475 class=quant>2</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidPrice743475 class=price title="" align=right>34.5</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerPrice743475 class=price title="">34.9</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerSize743475 class=quant>4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=ltp743475 title="1:14:08PM GMT">35.4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=vol743475>72.9k</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=change743475 noWrap>+1.3</TD></TR><TR id=row743479 bgColor=#ffffff><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #ffffff; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title743479 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) Newt Gingrich to be elected President in 2012" noWrap>Trade 2012.PRES.GINGRICH </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=bidSize743479 class=quant>30</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=bidPrice743479 class=price title="" align=right>4.4</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=offerPrice743479 class=price title="">5.7</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=offerSize743479 class=quant>30</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=ltp743479 title="1:14:08PM GMT">4.8</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=vol743479>87.7k</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffffff" id=change743479 noWrap>-0.7</TD></TR><TR id=row743483 bgColor=#eff0f0><TD style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; BACKGROUND: #eff0f0; OVERFLOW: hidden" id=title743483 title="Politics 2012 US Elections 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) Ron Paul to be elected President in 2012" noWrap>Trade 2012.PRES.PAUL(RON) </TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidSize743483 class=quant>286</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=bidPrice743483 class=price title="" align=right>2.0</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerPrice743483 class=price title="">2.5</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=offerSize743483 class=quant>44</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=ltp743483 title="1:14:08PM GMT">2.0</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=vol743483>70.0k</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #eff0f0" id=change743483 noWrap>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65461

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                      Let's be real here......Obama walked into a complete shitstorm when he was elected...

                                                      Ronnie Reagan walked into a bigger shitstorm created by Jimmy Carter, but unlike the Imam in the White House, Ronnie fixed that mess.

                                                      Let's be real here.

                                                      Real leaders lead.
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                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                        • 12144

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by andywend
                                                        Bush had very little to do with the bailout plan other than signing it into law but considering he was an extremely liberal republican, I wasn't surprised how much he supported it.

                                                        Liberal democrats like to refer to the TARP bailout plan as something only the republicans wanted and nothing could be further from the truth.

                                                        The democrats overwhelmingly supported it and the republicans strongly opposed it so it did NOT pass the first time around. Only after intense pressure was applied did the republicans cave and voted for it on the 2nd attempt.
                                                        So Bush didn't actually PROPOSE the bailout? Paulson wasn't orchestrating the entire thing? Next you're going to tell me that Bush didn't bailout the automakers with TARP money.

                                                        The voting aligned with MONEY. Like it always does.

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                                                        • DwightShrute
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-17-09
                                                          • 103093

                                                          #168
                                                          Tuesday's speech: When you talk about everything ... you end up saying nothing. It was one of lowest watched state of the union speeches and for good reason ... Americans are fed up with his bullshit.
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                                                          • MC PICKS
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-10-10
                                                            • 6644

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            Ronnie Reagan walked into a bigger shitstorm created by Jimmy Carter, but unlike the Imam in the White House, Ronnie fixed that mess. Let's be real here. Real leaders lead.
                                                            Bingo, took reagan 16 months to dig us out of the hole. Economy was booming by summer of 82 and is the main reason bill clinton had it so good in the 90's, no doubt reagan was the greatest president of all time. Obama has dug us even deeper in 3 years and we are about to go over the 16 trillion mark in the deficiet and he criticized bush for it going up 4 trillion in his 8 years. It was 9 trillion the day obama took office so he has increased it 7 trillion in just 3 years, obama is a fukking trainwreck.
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                                                            • falconticket
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-05-10
                                                              • 3414

                                                              #170
                                                              Democrat party is continuing to do what they have done best for 200 years. Keep the minorities in control. They will vote for us. Keep up the distributions and the rhetoric.
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