What's better? Tailing hot players or going against losers?

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  • Automoto
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-09-12
    • 252

    #1
    What's better? Tailing hot players or going against losers?
    I noticed that there are many posts with players that seem to be very successful and they have their followers but is it better to tail them of find the worst players and go against them?

    Your thoughts?


    Automoto

  • RyanLeafOfBets
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-10
    • 8164

    #2
    It's all about short-term gain. In the long run, it'll all end up close to the same. I'd rather tail someone successful than fade someone who is struggling though.
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    • bobby heenan
      SBR MVP
      • 03-20-09
      • 4120

      #3
      i keep watching the lang fade over on the service players board....its fuckin gold....but i know the minute i start tailing dime for dime he will go on one of those months where he actually profits like 300 dimes
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      • Automoto
        SBR Sharp
        • 01-09-12
        • 252

        #4
        Who is Lang?
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        • bobby heenan
          SBR MVP
          • 03-20-09
          • 4120

          #5
          Originally posted by Automoto
          Who is Lang?
          go over to the service plays board...ask around...theyll explain...too much for me to type right now...fading him is a gold mine though...im just too chicken shit cause once in awhile hell have a good month and if i jump and he gets hot ill be pissed
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          • Automoto
            SBR Sharp
            • 01-09-12
            • 252

            #6
            LOL... I just found him.... Brandon Lang 7-19-1
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            • PAULYPOKER
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-06-08
              • 36581

              #7
              Originally posted by Automoto
              LOL... I just found him.... Brandon Lang 7-19-1
              yes. if you do not trust your own picks there is nothing on this forum more profitable than fading lang.............
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              • bobby heenan
                SBR MVP
                • 03-20-09
                • 4120

                #8
                Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                yes. if you do not trust your own picks there is nothing on this forum more profitable than fading lang.............
                pauly...tell me why im such a pussy..i know fading this guy is like printing money...a key to my financial success/happiness.....yet i cant fuckin hop on the train

                im afraid ill jump on at the wrong time....lang ll hit for like 300 dimes of a profit and ill never forgive myself and will have been owned by that fuckin clown
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                • Automoto
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 01-09-12
                  • 252

                  #9
                  It looks like he is streaky... so I will fade him while he is losing.
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                  • bobby heenan
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-20-09
                    • 4120

                    #10
                    auto...the thing is...yer just looking at his numbers from this year.....go back and look at last years numbers....or the year before....the guy has winning months.....but overall if you stay in the race you are making tons of fuckin money...im just scared to hop in and get buried alive
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                    • PAULYPOKER
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-06-08
                      • 36581

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bobby heenan
                      pauly...tell me why im such a pussy..i know fading this guy is like printing money...a key to my financial success/happiness.....yet i cant fuckin hop on the train im afraid ill jump on at the wrong time....lang ll hit for like 300 dimes of a profit and ill never forgive myself and will have been owned by that fuckin clown
                      I don't fade him but I make sure he is not on any of my plays before I place them and if he by chance is on the other side I double up on them...........

                      If you do fade him though,you have to do it for the long haul and you will be successful as long as you do not add your own or other plays.....
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                      • bobby heenan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-20-09
                        • 4120

                        #12
                        ya i think youd need a nice 10k bankroll to start...in case he has a hot month or two off the bat.....10 bucks a dime and you should be golden
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                        • FourLengthsClear
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-29-10
                          • 3808

                          #13
                          Logic would suggest that it is every bit as 'hard' to hit at 45% as it is to hit at 55% and just as it is nigh on impossible to hit at 60% (long term) it is equally improbable to flounder at 40%. However there is plenty of evidence that 'the public' as a whole hits at slightly below 50% meaning that fading the ultimate hamburger should produce slightly better results than tailing a superstar.
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                          • RonPaul2008
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-08-07
                            • 6741

                            #14
                            Tailing Pinnacle
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                            • HoulihansTX
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 02-12-09
                              • 30566

                              #15
                              Lang Mighty Quinn Brock Landers etc
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                              • Dutchie
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-15-11
                                • 722

                                #16
                                try to make my own plays unless I read a write up and points info that I hadnt considered
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                                • Automoto
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-09-12
                                  • 252

                                  #17
                                  Hi All!

                                  Great info! I appreciate them all! I will definitely look at their picks after I make mine to be sure I am not thinking like them on a particular game.

                                  You guys all rock!!
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                                  • smoke a bowl
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-09-09
                                    • 2776

                                    #18
                                    Both strategies are obviously garbage. Put more time into gathering a few outs and shopping the best prices on what ever side it is you want and your results will instantly get better.
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                                    • pattymayo
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-19-09
                                      • 10221

                                      #19
                                      Tailing/Fading is for guys who are already established losers IMO. They can't pick their own winners, so the next logical step is to do zero work, and just tail/do the opposite of someone whose doing worse than them.

                                      Problem is, people never know when to jump on the tail/fade train.
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                                      • big0mar
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-09-09
                                        • 3374

                                        #20
                                        Finding your own +ev plays is the best way to make money
                                        [B][B]They key isn't getting rich quick. The key is getting rich slowly, and enjoying it.

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                                        • Inkwell77
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-03-11
                                          • 3227

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                                          Tailing Pinnacle
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                                          • Big Bear
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-01-11
                                            • 43253

                                            #22
                                            i would recommend both. but dont bet heavy if u r doing either of these strategies.

                                            you gotta trust yourself if you are going to go big. B/c afterall its "your money" GL
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                                            • Big Bear
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-01-11
                                              • 43253

                                              #23
                                              i will tell you what i do is if i like a game already and then I see Tracer is on it I go fukking huge.

                                              only use other peoples opinions to give you reassurance for your own leans
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                                              • mathdotcom
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-24-08
                                                • 11689

                                                #24
                                                fade my pucks plays and tail jjgold's picks when he posts a thread
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                                                • cant call it
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-29-10
                                                  • 8817

                                                  #25
                                                  If you want to make good $ wait for Lang, Brock Landers, and Henryhill all to be on the same play.
                                                  It works 60% of the time, everytime.
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                                                  • ChalkyDog
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-02-11
                                                    • 9598

                                                    #26
                                                    Lang is the best capper alive. I doubt it is possible to be so consistently wrong and not have a job in government.

                                                    You're just looking at his picks wrong.
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                                                    • ChalkyDog
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-02-11
                                                      • 9598

                                                      #27
                                                      Everyday, I look at who lang is on, and the only way I am not on the otherside, is if I can't rationally think of the otherside hitting.

                                                      i.e. going against Wichita State the other day.
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