You Will Get Eaten Alive By Betfair Auto Traders

[aggieshawn]

Race?

Are you going to try and get greedy. Maybe bet something like a teaser on the Giants/Pats.
Keep your SF ticket alive with the cash on Giants/Pats. Or just juice and add point to the Giants.
1.5 @ 9.5 ?

[FourLengthsClear]

Are you going to try and get greedy. Maybe bet something like a teaser on the Giants/Pats.
Keep your SF ticket alive with the cash on Giants/Pats. Or just juice and add point to the Giants.
1.5 @ 9.5 ?

I dumped GBP 450 on the Saints ML when SF were up 17-7 on Saturday so my true 'equity' is not quite what it appears on that screen.

I have already bet the NYG ML such that a SF loss would give me a reasonable net gain but that is all I am planning unless there is a substantial line move.

[Santo]

I'd be more worried about people sitting courtside than computers to be honest. In Auckland they 'evicted' two people who were sitting courtside betting on matches. I did it myself a little in the 'good old days' and there was easy money there -- these days it's more competitive and the broadcast gap is slightly less, but there are the same people at every tournament worldwide so they must make some money at it!

[wtf]

I dumped GBP 450 on the Saints ML when SF were up 17-7 on Saturday so my true 'equity' is not quite what it appears on that screen.

I have already bet the NYG ML such that a SF loss would give me a reasonable net gain but that is all I am planning unless there is a substantial line move.

trade out of it to get your capital back of a thousand pounds at least

dont make the mistake i did getting the bears at 100-1 they drop to 15-1 and the fuker breaks his THUMB , opportunity lost

[Hareeba!]

trade out of it to get your capital back of a thousand pounds at least

dont make the mistake i did getting the bears at 100-1 they drop to 15-1 and the fuker breaks his THUMB , opportunity lost

He's already stated that he's got a reasonable net get should SF not win.

Unless you initially enter the market to trade your position, I'm a firm believer in letting it ride unless the odds get stupidly short.

[wtf]

He's already stated that he's got a reasonable net get should SF not win.

Unless you initially enter the market to trade your position, I'm a firm believer in letting it ride unless the odds get stupidly short.

yes i read that

but still a thousand pounds is still nothing to sneeze at-i think he should trade out, the game this weekend is 50/50

[Hareeba!]

yes i read that

but still a thousand pounds is still nothing to sneeze at-i think he should trade out, the game this weekend is 50/50

What's to "trade out" of?

If I'm reading his posts correctly he's already greened up.

And whether a thousand quid is to sneeze at or not is relative. For some punters that's just a fraction of a unit. To others it's more than a year's turnover.

[FourLengthsClear]

I'd be more worried about people sitting courtside than computers to be honest. In Auckland they 'evicted' two people who were sitting courtside betting on matches. I did it myself a little in the 'good old days' and there was easy money there -- these days it's more competitive and the broadcast gap is slightly less, but there are the same people at every tournament worldwide so they must make some money at it!

This is a good point. The delay on in-play bets entering the exchange on Betfair ranges from 1 second for UK horse racing to 10 seconds for 'obscure' soccer leagues.

The broadcast delay in the UK on some events can be as much as 6 or 7 seconds (I have seen as much as 9 seconds for a Formula 1 race where the official 'live timing' can be streamed in real-time). Obviously if someone has that degree of advantage on you, you have a real problem.

[wtf]

What's to "trade out" of?

If I'm reading his posts correctly he's already greened up.

And whether a thousand quid is to sneeze at or not is relative. For some punters that's just a fraction of a unit. To others it's more than a year's turnover.

he is still sitting on a 1000 pounds of exposure at 15-1, market at 4-1 now, he can get his 1000 pounds back and still have some exposure at 15-1 with zero risk

[FourLengthsClear]

he is still sitting on a 1000 pounds of exposure at 15-1, market at 4-1 now, he can get his 1000 pounds back and still have some exposure at 15-1 with zero risk

The reason for not simply laying some SF back at 4.3/4.4 on Betfair is related to Premium Charge. Generating substantial profits and losses in individual markets helps to boost/maintain the commission to profit ratio.

I have a bet on the Giants ML @ +130 which will result will win more than GBP 1450. If SF beat the Giants then the worst case scenario from an equity point of view is that they will meet the Patriots in the SB for whom the fair line would be around -170 (Baltimore would be around -125). If that comes to fruition I will decide what to do on the basis of the numbers on offer. It is not a case of being greedy (or being scared), just whether the position makes sense.

[chachi]

there is also the diagonal/related markets approach, where one can lay partials on the match odds for this weekend at lesser levels as a hedge against the SB winners market ... or 'to win the tournament' versus 'stage of elimination' versus 'match odds' etc

rather than lay stake back out on winners mkt id consider laying stake for sunday's game

[DitKent]

is it true that betfair allow corporate bookies that use the site to have a 4 second count down clock, inexchange for pumping liquidity into the popular markets? such as tennis slams, cricket etc?

[chachi]

anecdotally yes ... and their Malta operation allegedly does not suffer such a delay either

[tommygun]

wtf, since when can you use betfair JJ and also when did you become an
"expert"

[Fishhead]

wtf, since when can you use betfair JJ and also when did you become an
"expert"

wtf is no expert

Gawd almighty

[jjgold]

I am an expert researcher
One of things I do for Walker
Check books all over world

[tommygun]

I am an expert researcher One of things I do for Walker Check books all over world

You been on the Charlie again JJ?

[jjgold]

Tommy I can school you man
Be careful
Watch your back
I am a tough guy

[Fishhead]

I am an expert researcher
One of things I do for Walker
Check books all over world

Comparing you to WTF is like comparing a fine wine to a raison.............................

[tommygun]

Tommy I can school you man Be careful Watch your back I am a tough guy

[tommygun]

[jjgold]

Tommy call me to discuss issues

[tommygun]

Tommy call me to discuss issues

international calling, ur kidding urself!

[TennisProFrance]

I'm a full time trader/gambler and bots on betfair are no issue at all. They are just automated tools governed by rules who are used in the main by system hunters - you can even exploit them. Courtsiders are not a big issue either as only mugs leave money in play during important points. That said you have to be good to make it day in day out as they are sharp markets, more akin to stock market trading than gambling.

[tommygun]

must get a lot of Betfair action in FRANCE hey mate..?

[TennisProFrance]

It's banned in France as you well know.

[jjgold]

international calling, ur kidding urself!

email you number son

I will call

I am the real deal

[tommygun]

Hmmm give my number to the beast himself, ur not playing me for a fool Gold!

[jjgold]