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No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

<table class="data" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="info_line_alternate1"><td class="left" width="109">01/08 09:07 PM</td><td width="86">PK -125</td><td width="86">PK +105</td></tr></tbody></table>5Dimes

It went up to +2 a minute before that and closed at +1.5 a minute later according to SBRodds, and the ML never once dipped in NIU's favor.

Are you sure that line move actually happened? My book is 5Dimes and I never saw it go to PK.

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Look right above your head

Weird that it shows a move to PK for a few seconds at 5Dimes but literally nowhere else. And again, the ML never moved.

There was no RLM here Pauly.

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

It went up to +2 a minute before that and closed at +1.5 a minute later according to SBRodds, and the ML never once dipped in NIU's favor. Are you sure that line move actually happened? My book is 5Dimes and I never saw it go to PK.

It was my fukkin bet know it happened............

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:15 AM

I see what happened now -- it went to PK at +105. In other words, no real difference between that and the +1.5's everywhere else; just an alternate number that 5Dimes typically throws out there. The ML never moved in NIU's favor.

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

It was my fukkin bet know it happened............

You got the PK at +105 though.

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I see what happened now -- it went to PK at +105. In other words, no real difference between that and the +1.5's everywhere else; just an alternate number that 5Dimes typically throws out there. The ML never moved in NIU's favor.

was not an alternate it was the reduced juice offer at the moment.........
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</td><td>Pending</td><td>1/8/12 9:00pm College Football 268 Northern Illinois pk +100* <small>vs</small> Arkansas State </td></tr></tbody></table>

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

was not an alternate it was the reduced juice offer at the moment.........
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</td><td>Pending</td><td>1/8/12 9:00pm College Football 268 Northern Illinois pk +100* <small>vs</small> Arkansas State </td></tr></tbody></table>

You got it at +100, it closed at +110 a few minutes later, and I'm supposed to believe this was the right play because of "RLM"?

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:23 AM

Since we're talking about 5Dimes, NIU's opening ML there was -103 with a +110 close.

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

You got it at +100, it closed at +110 a few minutes later, and I'm supposed to believe this was the right play because of "RLM"?

So I guess you can see into the future knowing where a line is going to close at.

It was RLM at a critical time of action, end of story........

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

So I guess you can see into the future knowing where a line is going to close at.

It was RLM at a critical time of action, end of story........

Come on Pauly. That argument is ridiculous. There was no RLM. Public was, for all intents and purposes, split. ML closed 13 cents in Arkansas State's favor.

You were on the right side. Let's just leave it at that.

jgray · 01-09-12, 12:28 AM

Men, there's a game going on here. Can someone explain the QB sneak at 3rd and 10?

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by jgray

Men, there's a game going on here. Can someone explain the QB sneak at 3rd and 10?

I'm

on that one

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Come on Pauly. That argument is ridiculous. There was no RLM. Public was, for all intents and purposes, split. ML closed 13 cents in Arkansas State's favor. You were on the right side. Let's just leave it at that.

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</th><th class="trends" width="40">Side</th><th class="trends" width="40">Money</th><th class="trends" width="40">Total</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="time"> <td colspan="12" class="">01/08/2012 9:00 PM EST</td> </tr> <tr class="team odd"> <td style="text-transform:uppercase" class="name">267 ARKANSAS STATE</td><td>-1 </td><td class="">
</td><td class="">-1 </td><td class="">-1.5 </td><td class="">-1.5 </td><td class="">-1 </td><td class="">-1.5 -01</td><td class="">
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</td><td class="">66</td><td class="">64</td><td class="">63.5</td><td class="">64</td><td class="">64o08</td><td class="">
</td><td class="trends">41%</td><td class="trends">
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PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:32 AM

Ya it was split all right

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Ya it was split all right

So less than 60% of the public being on a side and getting slaughtered by the closing number now = RLM?

jgray · 01-09-12, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

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Maybe I'm reading your info wrong, but the line didn't move in reverse. Money (59%) was coming in on AKS and the line moved from -1 to -1.5.

UNCGQ · 01-09-12, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by jgray

Men, there's a game going on here. Can someone explain the QB sneak at 3rd and 10?

Some people can't be bothered to try too hard I suppose. It def made me look up and go 'wait, what?'

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

So less than 60% of the public being on a side and getting slaughtered by the closing number now = RLM?

Bingo!!!

especially when it was 55/50 20 min before kickoff,coin I thought you were smarter than what you are portraying tonight......

UNCGQ · 01-09-12, 12:39 AM

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by jgray

Maybe I'm reading your info wrong, but the line didn't move in reverse. Money (59%) was coming in on AKS and the line moved from -1 to -1.5.

This was the closing line RLM to a pk was while the ATS %age was climbing on Ark......

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:42 AM

Class is over!!!!!!

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Bingo!!!

especially when it was 55/50 20 min before kickoff,coin I thought you were smarter than what you are portraying tonight......

You are really, really reaching here.

I don't know what's worse: this argument or your Steelers thread where you did an about-face after calling everyone idiots for being on Denver earlier in the week.

jeffdane · 01-09-12, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by jgray

Maybe I'm reading your info wrong, but the line didn't move in reverse. Money (59%) was coming in on AKS and the line moved from -1 to -1.5.

pauly said he got niu pk +100, so with a line move of +1.5 to pk, with 41%, it is rlm. only going off what he said

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

This was the closing line RLM to a pk was while the ATS %age was climbing on Ark......

It didn't close at PK. Not even close.

It moved for a few seconds in favor of NIU, you took the play, it shifted huge in the other direction right before kickoff and closed 13 cents in Arkansas State's favor from open, but you cashed anyway. No big deal; again, you were on the right side. It just had absolutely nothing to do with RLM. You got the worse number possible unless you locked it in about four weeks ago.

jgray · 01-09-12, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by jeffdane

pauly said he got niu pk +100, so with a line move of +1.5 to pk, with 41%, it is rlm. only going off what he said

I get that. It's just that the info doesn't show the line at pk. I get his explanation from above (not saying I buy it though) but based on his chart, he wasn't betting RLM, he was betting an off (read bad) number.

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

You are really, really reaching here. I don't know what's worse: this argument or your Steelers thread where you did an about-face after calling everyone idiots for being on Denver earlier in the week.

4...3...2...1... what is this>

Broncos and the points are the play I hate to...

Well the line dropped to 7 which means Denver is...

I will tell you what it is,

It is called understanding line movement,maybe you should have learned from me instead of LB..........

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

4...3...2...1... what is this>

Broncos and the points are the play I hate to...

Well the line dropped to 7 which means Denver is...

I will tell you what it is,

It is called understanding line movement,maybe you should have learned from me instead of LB..........

Like I said, you did an about-face after calling everyone idiots for backing Denver earlier in the week. Why were they all idiots then but so smart today?

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Like I said, you did an about-face after calling everyone idiots for backing Denver earlier in the week. Why were they all idiots then but so smart today?

Coin,I.m a Steeler fan plus players talk is 90% clueless and it is fun to poke,you seriously take it way too serious.........

No coincidences · 01-09-12, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

Coin,I.m a Steeler fan plus players talk is 90% clueless and it is fun to poke,you seriously take it way too serious.........

Pauly, you know your shit. I'm not arguing otherwise. I just think your in spin control with this faux RLM crap argument here and in that Pittsburgh thread. That's all.

PAULYPOKER · 01-09-12, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Pauly, you know your shit. I'm not arguing otherwise. I just think your in spin control with this faux RLM crap argument here and in that Pittsburgh thread. That's all.

You did have me worked up a little.............

jgray · 01-09-12, 01:01 AM

Congrats NIU backers. On to the next one....the last one.