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  • M0RPH
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-03-08
    • 24

    #1
    Refused payout from A rated book
    I am being refused a payout from a well known A rated book.

    I signed up at this book and took the initial bonus on offer understanding that I would need to wager so much to release this. Unfortunately I lost all of my money and the bonus. After a while I got some more money in here, won a bit, and requested a withdrawal. They are refusing, saying I still need to complete the rollover for the initial deposit, totally ignoring the fact that I lost all of my money and that bonus.

    Surely this is not right and any wagering should be reset when losing. Can anyone confirm what is the standard practice here?
  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #2
    This must be some type of mixup or misunderstanding, hard to speculate just exactly whats causing this without knowing all the details. If you deposit $X, receive a deposit bonus, you'd have to clear whatever rollovers in place, but if you LOSE your deposit that bonus expires because you went bust before completing the rollover.

    I think you should fill out this complaint form just so some more light can be shed on this matter.
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    • pimike
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 03-23-08
      • 37140

      #3
      Lets hope this is a mix up, sounds like it. Who is the book?
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      • M0RPH
        SBR Rookie
        • 07-03-08
        • 24

        #4
        CrazyL, this is exactly what happened.

        I put in $2.5k and they upped it to $3k with the bonus. Then I went and blew all of this. Now they are saying I still need to finish the rollover for that initial deposit.

        The book is on recommended list - A+ !!!
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        • M0RPH
          SBR Rookie
          • 07-03-08
          • 24

          #5
          Originally posted by CrazyL
          I think you should fill out this complaint form just so some more light can be shed on this matter.
          I never used this before, will this be the best way for me to sort this out?
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          • betplom
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-20-06
            • 13444

            #6
            I'll guess its WSEX.
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            • fiveteamer
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-14-08
              • 10805

              #7
              -350 this is Tony's.
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              • SBR Lou
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-02-07
                • 37863

                #8
                Originally posted by M0RPH
                I never used this before, will this be the best way for me to sort this out?
                If you've asked to speak to an account manager and this has done nothing, then yes filing a complaint form would be your next step.
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                • dwaechte
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-27-07
                  • 5481

                  #9
                  Morph,

                  So you didn't receive any bonus on your 2nd deposit? Have you rolled over the 2nd deposit atleast 1x?
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                  • M0RPH
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 07-03-08
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dwaechte
                    Morph,

                    So you didn't receive any bonus on your 2nd deposit? Have you rolled over the 2nd deposit atleast 1x?
                    The rollover they are quoting is puely for the sign up bonus.
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                    • poetwarrior41
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 06-20-08
                      • 963

                      #11
                      Once you lost the money on the original deposit, your contract with them has been completed. If you didnt receive a second bonus on the deposit you won money on, they are totally in the wrong. That has to be a mistake by the customer service person, if you are indeed telling us the truth?
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                      • dwaechte
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-27-07
                        • 5481

                        #12
                        Originally posted by M0RPH
                        The rollover they are quoting is puely for the sign up bonus.
                        Fair enough.

                        Sounds like a mix up on their part if the 2nd deposit came after the initial balance was lost as you say. If they really think you should have to meet that rollover I think most would agree that's pretty stupid.

                        Can you name the book please?
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                        • fiveteamer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-08
                          • 10805

                          #13
                          this is what happens when books pay CR locals $2.45 hr. You get idiots working there.
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                          • M0RPH
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 07-03-08
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dwaechte
                            Fair enough.

                            Sounds like a mix up on their part if the 2nd deposit came after the initial balance was lost as you say. If they really think you should have to meet that rollover I think most would agree that's pretty stupid.

                            Can you name the book please?
                            I quite like the book so don't want to name them at the moment. However, I have spoken to 3 different people and they all claim to have liased with the payments department.

                            Why would I not be telling the truth poetwarrior41?
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                            • M0RPH
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 07-03-08
                              • 24

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CrazyL
                              If you've asked to speak to an account manager and this has done nothing, then yes filing a complaint form would be your next step.
                              I tried filling in this form CrazyL but it "failed verification", so I sent in an email to the help address.

                              Is this ok?
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                              • Steeltown
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 384

                                #16
                                Im guessing betOnline. Im almost sure of it. i once had the clerk try this on me and then it was cleared up so Im guessing its them.
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                                • SBR Lou
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-02-07
                                  • 37863

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by M0RPH
                                  I tried filling in this form CrazyL but it "failed verification", so I sent in an email to the help address.

                                  Is this ok?
                                  That's fine.
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                                  • jtuck
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-18-08
                                    • 2051

                                    #18
                                    It would have to be a book that gives a 20% signup bonus and is an A+, shouldnt be too hard to figure out. Whichever it is I'm sure it'll get worked out.
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                                    • HedgeHog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 10128

                                      #19
                                      Name the book at least. If not, go straight to the complaint form and avoid starting a thread. Makes you think a ghost started the thread.
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                                      • M0RPH
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 07-03-08
                                        • 24

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                        Name the book at least. If not, go straight to the complaint form and avoid starting a thread. Makes you think a ghost started the thread.
                                        I already submitted the complaint now.

                                        And the book in question is Legendz.
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                                        • Mudcat
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 07-21-05
                                          • 9287

                                          #21
                                          I have heard of lower rated books trying to make this kind of thing fly but it doesn't sound like the Legendz I know.

                                          Either we are missing some key information or this should be sorted out with one quick phone call from SBR (if not sooner).



                                          Either that or Legendz is turning over a new cheesier leaf.
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                                          • dwaechte
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-27-07
                                            • 5481

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jtuck
                                            It would have to be a book that gives a 20% signup bonus and is an A+, shouldnt be too hard to figure out. Whichever it is I'm sure it'll get worked out.
                                            He didn't specify A+, and even if he had there'd still be 4 that fit that description just off the top of my head. But you're right, it doesn't really matter since I'm sure it'll get worked out, I was just curious more than anything.
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                                            • durito
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-03-06
                                              • 13173

                                              #23
                                              I was gonna guess legendz.

                                              The issue is most surely clerical and probably can be cleared without SBR. Just call and find someone competent to talk too.
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                                              • bigboydan
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 55420

                                                #24
                                                This matter should be resolved after a simple phone call if it's indeed the case sir.
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                                                • pimike
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-23-08
                                                  • 37140

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by durito
                                                  I was gonna guess legendz.

                                                  The issue is most surely clerical and probably can be cleared without SBR. Just call and find someone competent to talk too.
                                                  I had a problem with my bonus, spoke to the supervisor yesterday, bonus situation all taken care of. Very simple.

                                                  I think you should have done that before you started this thread.
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                                                  • Justin7
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                    • 8577

                                                    #26
                                                    I would always call and verify that the bonus doesn't "carry over" when you redeposit at some place you blew out.

                                                    Bonus sharks can tear up books by repeatedly blowing out their bonus, and redepositing.

                                                    Knowing nothing more, I think you're getting a raw deal.
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                                                    • big joe 1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-01-08
                                                      • 19380

                                                      #27
                                                      Legendz is SOLID !!! They always give me a clear understanding on what I need to deposit to get a bonus, after I have gotten payouts. They are the only book in which all the CS clerks are on the same page!!!
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                                                      • purecarnagge
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-05-07
                                                        • 4843

                                                        #28
                                                        send in a complaint and watch SBR work its magic
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