arrested 17 in serie B match-fixing

PittsburghPlayer · 12-19-11, 08:15 AM

Just like everyone in prison is innocent - Sports are no way and have never been fixed. It would be impossible!!

jjgold · 12-19-11, 08:27 AM

follow line movements closely in soccer

richie360 · 12-19-11, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

follow line movements closely in soccer

Or just leave italian football alone, certainly the lower divisions!!

escou · 12-19-11, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

follow line movements closely in soccer

It depends very much on the league, but deffinetely the right approach

HeeeHAWWWW · 12-19-11, 10:03 AM

Been happening for years in Italian Serie B.

Does prove how much money distorts markets though - when this happened, it was always very visible.

Wordsworth · 12-19-11, 10:05 AM

Don't bet on anything south of Stuttgart

griz · 12-19-11, 10:26 AM

cant trust italians with anything

PittsburghPlayer · 12-19-11, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by griz

cant trust italians with anything

Has nothing to do with nationality, Everything to do with money and greed Ya racist prick!

ebbearsfb1 · 12-19-11, 10:46 AM

lol and people say sports ain't fixing.. lmao..the packers ml dropped 300 yesterday at 5 dimes... boom... shock a locka

OGUCCI-SBR · 12-19-11, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

lol and people say sports ain't fixing.. lmao..the packers ml dropped 300 yesterday at 5 dimes... boom... shock a locka

TODAY it's the most rigged it's ever been. Sadly.

Dirty Sanchez · 12-19-11, 10:59 AM

Not surprising....Greece and Turkey are brutal as well....but Blatter says everything is fine.....no worries

Wiesnak · 12-19-11, 11:11 AM

fifa, uefa and all major leagues script their own games so when outside groups try to bribe players and fix games they disturb the script

jjgold · 12-19-11, 11:33 AM

You need to follow Asian books where lines move and limits higher

I think easy to get 5k down on a B match Asian handicap

Mr. Jones · 12-19-11, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer

Just like everyone in prison is innocent - Sports are no way and have never been fixed. It would be impossible!!

LOL PPlayer. I am amazed by the naivete of some of our younger posters. I have an extensive library of sports betting books and especially books about sports fixes. I am fascinated by the subject and always have been.

Just walked over to the shelves and pulled out 3 that all in this business would find fascinating to read, but sadly won't for whatever reason..

How Jack Molinas Almost Destroyed the Game of Basketball: The Wizard of Odds by Charlie Rosen. Also The Game They Played by Stanley Cohen. The latter is the story of the City College team and the notorious 1949-50 college baskets season.

Want more contemporary? A good read is Gaming The Game by Sean Patrick Griffin. These reads are just the tip of the iceberg.

Have a Happy Holiday season Pittsburgh Player.

jjgold · 12-19-11, 12:42 PM

More fixes in soccer vs any other sport including horses in todays world

why??

Ability to get decent money down in Europe Bookies
Player wages not great
organized crime more prevalent in foreign countries

pellumb341 · 12-19-11, 02:19 PM

SOCCER IS DEFINITELY DEAD !!! I am from Albania and i have made a screenshot of an Albanian super league match...it was 86-th minute ,the result was 4-1 and the "over" odd... was just 1.36 WTF

i want to share it ,is it possible to upload ?

pellumb341 · 12-19-11, 02:20 PM

match ended 4-2 ,what a surprise

stevenash · 12-19-11, 02:21 PM

Why would one bet on a sport where the players promote books on their uniforms?

showtiime · 12-19-11, 03:16 PM

because if you know your stuff soccer can be a very profitable sport.

stevenash · 12-19-11, 03:18 PM

^
You could know everything there is about it, but if you don't know what side the fix is in on, you don't really know shit, do you ?

showtiime · 12-19-11, 03:37 PM

thats true, but while fixes are rare, they do tend to happen in the lower divisions of some leagues, not going to shy away from a sport as a whole because of shifty business that you very rarely get caught out on.

Daveyboy · 12-20-11, 07:03 AM

Cristiano Doni. Anyone else famous?

PittsburghPlayer · 12-20-11, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Jones

LOL PPlayer. I am amazed by the naivete of some of our younger posters. I have an extensive library of sports betting books and especially books about sports fixes. I am fascinated by the subject and always have been. Just walked over to the shelves and pulled out 3 that all in this business would find fascinating to read, but sadly won't for whatever reason.. How Jack Molinas Almost Destroyed the Game of Basketball: The Wizard of Odds by Charlie Rosen. Also The Game They Played by Stanley Cohen. The latter is the story of the City College team and the notorious 1949-50 college baskets season. Want more contemporary? A good read is Gaming The Game by Sean Patrick Griffin. These reads are just the tip of the iceberg. Have a Happy Holiday season Pittsburgh Player.

Mr Jones, I have not read many of your posts, though the ones that I have a full of decency and respect. The post of mine that you highlighted was of me being silly, laughing at those that do not believe that games can be and are manipulated.
A Happy Safe Holiday Season right back at you Sir. Now I need to go track down the song "Mr Jones" by the Talking Heads!!
Good Day and Good Luck!!

PittsburghPlayer · 12-20-11, 08:30 AM

I just re read your post, I was mistaken, I understand now that you get it. Carry and/or Rock on Sir.

stevenash · 12-20-11, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer

Now I need to go track down the song "Mr Jones" by the Talking Heads!!

ehp6737 · 12-20-11, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

Why would one bet on a sport where the players promote books on their uniforms?

Exactly. Half the euro soccer teams have bookies for sponsors and promote them on their jerseys and somehow people are shocked gambling affects outcomes of games and some matches are fixed.

This is exactly why no major North American sports league will allow a franchise in Vegas, much less be sponsored by a gambling entity.

MatI · 12-21-11, 07:39 PM

Not surprising, but more stories of fixing - http://www.sportal.com.au/football-n...utd-tie-153327

eleuropeano · 12-21-11, 08:11 PM

Just never bet on lower tiers in any sport. Whoever said don't bet on anything south of Stuttgart, this is bull, just a few years ago was the the bundesliga scandal with the referee fixing matches in the 2nd bundesliga and the regionalliga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesl...dal_%282005%29). And it is not just soccer, the lower level of tennis is the same thing. In the US there is isnt an NFL lower divisions, and you cant easily bet on obscure games like DIII college sports, but still every now and then comes out a story about point shaving.

It is quite simple, at lower level of sport the risk/reward tradeoff is easily skewed in favor of fixing, so it will always happen, any sport, any country.