Is the Dallas Cowboys coach retarded?

[allabout the $$$]

Why are people even arguing against kicking the field goal.....I haven't seen a legit argument yet to NOT KICK there.

what difference does it make to kick the fg there for bailey to get you 3 points and for the game to go over thats the only reason

[MoneyLineDawg]

I'm agreeing that the field goal should have been kicked. I was asking those against it, if in a 2 score game they would play their backup defense. It would be stupid to do that.

Yeah I know....I was saying Cowboys weren't worried about injuries, nothing to suggest it

[allabout the $$$]

can the bucs score 2 tds and 2 point conversions then get another onside kick and kick a long field goal and tie the game?

[Cuse0323]

can the bucs score 2 tds and 2 point conversions then get another onside kick and kick a long field goal and tie the game?

doubtful, but zero chance they score three times after you kick the fg. had nothing on the game and didn't watch it but you kick the fg.

[MoneyLineDawg]

what difference does it make to kick the fg there for bailey to get you 3 points and for the game to go over thats the only reason

Makes it a 3 score game.


NO REASON NOT TO!!!!!

[MoneyLineDawg]

This argument is so dumb.....I can't believe I got involved in this stupid ass argument where there is no chance I'm wrong here

[allabout the $$$]

doubtful, but zero chance they score three times after you kick the fg. had nothing on the game and didn't watch it but you kick the fg.

dallas dominated the game tb did shit on offence are they gonna drive 90 yards with no timeouts in a min 30? then have to get an onside kick and score another td and 2 point conversion

[hels]

Here's an insert about the 'great comeback of all time in the nfl -- 2 scores is hard but 3 scores....

(Oct. 9, 2003) -- With the Indianapolis Colts behind by three touchdowns with four minutes to play against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, just about everyone watching last week's Monday Night Football game called it a night and stopped paying attention to the game.

Not the Colts. In less than 240 seconds, Peyton Manning & Co. scored thrice (that's three times) to push the game into overtime, where they would later win the game on a Mike Vanderjagt field goal. It has gone down as the greatest comeback victory in the shortest time span in NFL history.

So that got us thinking. We have some of the most prolific football players, coaches and analysts who chime in weekly here on NFL.com. Figuring that they've witnessed (and played in) some pretty amazing come-from-behind victories, we asked them what was the best rally they've witnessed. The responses were far-ranging, including a very special reaction by a man who knows a thing or two about great comebacks.

[allabout the $$$]

if you read my posts i said against an offence like the pats or colts i kick the field goal but against the bucs who have no offence i just get the game over

[allabout the $$$]

Here's an insert about the 'great comeback of all time in the nfl -- 2 scores is hard but 3 scores....

(Oct. 9, 2003) -- With the Indianapolis Colts behind by three touchdowns with four minutes to play against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, just about everyone watching last week's Monday Night Football game called it a night and stopped paying attention to the game.

Not the Colts. In less than 240 seconds, Peyton Manning & Co. scored thrice (that's three times) to push the game into overtime, where they would later win the game on a Mike Vanderjagt field goal. It has gone down as the greatest comeback victory in the shortest time span in NFL history.

So that got us thinking. We have some of the most prolific football players, coaches and analysts who chime in weekly here on NFL.com. Figuring that they've witnessed (and played in) some pretty amazing come-from-behind victories, we asked them what was the best rally they've witnessed. The responses were far-ranging, including a very special reaction by a man who knows a thing or two about great comebacks.

did they have no timeouts and get the 3 scores and dont say that doesnt make a difference

[MoneyLineDawg]

dallas dominated the game tb did shit on offence are they gonna drive 90 yards with no timeouts in a min 30? then have to get an onside kick and score another td and 2 point conversion

Why not make it a 3 score game though.....WTF

[Cuse0323]

dallas dominated the game tb did shit on offence are they gonna drive 90 yards with no timeouts in a min 30? then have to get an onside kick and score another td and 2 point conversion

that's not the debate, no they're not going to be able to do that but it's still a better move to kick the fg. you take the zero percent chance over the one percent shot.

[FindTheLock]

if you read my posts i said against an offence like the pats or colts i kick the field goal but against the bucs who have no offence i just get the game over

it should not matter who the other team is. A chance to seal the game without any chance of letting the other team back in the game should ALWAYS be capitalized on. ANY other NFL coach with a winning record goes for the throat and kicks the chip shot. There is NO argument against it, unless you're just trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

[hels]

dallas dominated the game tb did shit on offence are they gonna drive 90 yards with no timeouts in a min 30? then have to get an onside kick and score another td and 2 point conversion

The minute thirty td drive is possible, don't argue that. An onside kick is possible followed by a td is possible too.

All I'm trying to say is that a 60 yard td (off a pooch kick), followed by an onside kick leading to a 55 yard td, followed by another onside kick + 20 yard drive + 52 yard field goal is much more difficult.

[MoneyLineDawg]

that's not the debate, no they're not going to be able to do that but it's still a better move to kick the fg. you take the zero percent chance over the one percent shot.

Exactly.....guy is dense as hell

There is absolutely zero reason not to kick the field goal there

[BobHarvey]

Garrett should have taken the points at the end. I'm not sure but aren't some of the tiebreakers determined by points scored? It wouldn't hurt to have a few extra in your pocket.

And yes he cost me an over in that spot. My bad for even betting with the Cowboys.

[allabout the $$$]

those 3 scores in 4 minutes covered 175 yards you are asking the bucs to get 145 yards in 130.

colts 1st scoring drive covered 12 yards so turnovers helped

[hels]

A team down 16 with 1:37 left and a 90 yard drive will still attempt to score a td. They still have slight hope.

A team with less than 1:37 left and need to score td, td and fg will not believe they have any hope.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Garrett should have taken the points at the end. I'm not sure but aren't some of the tiebreakers determined by points scored? It wouldn't hurt to have a few extra in your pocket.

And yes he cost me an over in that spot. My bad for even betting with the Cowboys.

Yes, add another reason to kick the FG

Only person arguing against it is saying essentially "Well why should they?"

[allabout the $$$]

The minute thirty td drive is possible, don't argue that. An onside kick is possible followed by a td is possible too.

All I'm trying to say is that a 60 yard td (off a pooch kick), followed by an onside kick leading to a 55 yard td, followed by another onside kick + 20 yard drive + 52 yard field goal is much more difficult.

but it is possible thats the points the bucs were not gonna score 2 times in 130 with no time outs

[MoneyLineDawg]

those 3 scores in 4 minutes covered 175 yards you are asking the bucs to get 145 yards in 130.

colts 1st scoring drive covered 12 yards so turnovers helped

Bucs had almost no chance to come back down 16 there we established that.....my god

[hels]

those 3 scores in 4 minutes covered 175 yards you are asking the bucs to get 145 yards in 130.

colts 1st scoring drive covered 12 yards so turnovers helped

Try to understand.

A greater comeback would be scoring 3 times in 1:30 than scoring 2 times in 1:30.

If that goes over your head then I will not respond to you any further.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Auto-fade all about the $$$$ from now on.....Guy can't understand simple percentages

[allabout the $$$]

if you didnt have the over would you give a shit? or if you didnt have bailey on your team

you are probably the same guy who will argue laying 30.5 and a team is up by 28 and they shoot a 2 with 10 secs left they should have shot the 3 because i would have covered

[MoneyLineDawg]

if you didnt have the over would you give a shit? or if you didnt have bailey on your team

you are probably the same guy who will argue laying 30.5 and a team is up by 28 and they shoot a 2 with 10 secs left they should have shot the 3 because i would have covered

I sure as shit would not be arguing AGAINST IT for any reason because I understand simple math

[hels]

Auto-fade all about the $$$$ from now on.....Guy can't understand simple percentages

Agree. I will be searching for his pregame posts from now on.

He will be an asset.

[FindTheLock]

if you didnt have the over would you give a shit? or if you didnt have bailey on your team

you are probably the same guy who will argue laying 30.5 and a team is up by 28 and they shoot a 2 with 10 secs left they should have shot the 3 because i would have covered

that's just ridiculous. Not even remotely similar in comparison. A similar comparison would be the basketball team had a 6 point lead with 5 seconds left and they bricked their game sealing FT's on purpose.

[allabout the $$$]

Auto-fade all about the $$$$ from now on.....Guy can't understand simple percentages

ok bro thats fine fade me when i post your choice im gonna make peace with you here mld if you lose your ff league because of those 3 points you can meet me in ac for some drinks mlk weekend buy you some drinks and we can get some tail

[allabout the $$$]

same offer goes for you hels

[MoneyLineDawg]

ok bro thats fine fade me when i post your choice im gonna make peace with you here mld if you lose your ff league because of those 3 points you can meet me in ac for some drinks mlk weekend buy you some drinks and we can get some tail

.....I'm just mad because you are arguing for something that makes no sense......Give me a reason not to kick the field goal there please......And you can't answer with Bucs weren't coming back anyway or you wouldn't care if you didn't have Bailey or Over......Please try now

[allabout the $$$]

here is your fade for tomm over lions raiders 47.5

[Landscaper]

Auto-fade all about the $$$$ from now on.....Guy can't understand simple percentages

That clown is as dumb as they come

[hels]

if you didnt have the over would you give a shit? or if you didnt have bailey on your team you are probably the same guy who will argue laying 30.5 and a team is up by 28 and they shoot a 2 with 10 secs left they should have shot the 3 because i would have covered

If I had the Under I would be praising the stupidity of Garrett and thanking the lovely heavens for my fortunes. I would have posted this exact same thread but instead of I would have posted some praying emoticon.

Arguing about basketball garbage time and football meaningful time are 2 different things.

BTW did the 3 score vs. 2 score concept go over your head?

[allabout the $$$]

the game is over there is no way they score 2 tds if they get the first down thats a bonus

[MoneyLineDawg]

the game is over there is no way they score 2 tds if they get the first down thats a bonus

Unreal......