$550 on the Lions -1 @ Oakland Next Sunday

[Burgo]

I'd be happy to take the Lions anything up to -7 really

Can't see how they can lose / win this by less than

[Big Bear]

should be an exciting game. This is basically a playoff game, the loser is likely out of the playoff picture.

[k13]

Falling for the trap like with Atlanta huh...

LOL at some of these clowns saying they would take it up to -7....

As always everyone just remembers "last week"

[Serbone]

I could care less if this goes to -2 or +1. I took this at JustBet while it was there.

There is a lot of concern on the Raiders squad as to who will be playing next week. Free safety Michael Huff is most likely out. McFadden could be back but with how long he has been sitting, I don't think he will be in game shape by next week. If you return early from injury, that could hurt, more than help your team.

Jacoby Ford and Hayword Bay are both banged up, but I expect at least 1 of those guys to play.

Suh is back for the lions and this is going to be a nightmare matchup for Palmer with Fairly now in the rotation with Avril and VanDenBosh. With SD and Greenbay after this, I think this is by far the most significant game of the season for the Lions. If they win this game they have a great shot to make the playoffs.

Also what leads me to believe the lions will win this game is the matchup with Calvin Johnson. I don't see anyone on oakland being able to guard this guy. Their best corner is Routte, who is probably the most penalized cornerback in the NFL. I can see him getting his hands all over Calvin because he won't be able to physically stay with this guy, causing lots of penalties.

Michael Bush is a good runner but he has no explosiveness on the edges where the lions can be exposed. Good luck sending Bush right down the middle against a play in Suh who had to sit back and watch the lions play the last two games. The guy is going to come to play on Sunday, and its going to be a nightmare for Palmer, trust me.

You have to throw the ball to beat the lions, plain and simple. We saw what happened with Tebow and co when Lions came to town. Tebow scored 1 touchdown in the garbage minutes, and had one of the worst games of his career just like I predicted in that thread.

I don't believe Palmer can throw the ball under pressure. I have no faith in the guy.

The Raiders were down 31-0 to the packers in the first 20 minutes of the game. Pitiful. Their linebacking core is atrocious. I mean, Ryan Grant busted a nut on this team.

I don't know who will be in for RB for Detroit, but with the way they run the gun almost every play it won't really matter. Kevin Smith would be a huge bonus if he can play. Delmas at the FS position would also be great.

The lions will be prepared and focused this week.

This is also the week that Lakerboy will lose his thread where he said Lions won't win more than 1 game after Dec 1st. He also said Lions won't beat the Raiders.

Good write up I apprecitate the assessment.
Most around here just lob out "Detroit is a LOCK" like we should take their word for it...
Agree with your points, I think waiting on injury status will be impt to determine the SIZE of the wager.
Ford is a huge difference maker, Bay is a factor, too, McFadden even if he comes back will not be sharp. Also,if RB Smith can play for Detroit that is huge.
Suh will be full of energy and the whole DL will rush up the gut on Palmer. The Detroit WR's will eat Raiders alive. If knucklehead Titus Young can use his head he is dangerous, too, not just Johnson.
Decision for me will be whether to bet Detroit small-medium-big, depending upon injury updates.
Thanks!

[richard1214]

Raiders suck right now

[No coincidences]

You know I don't agree with you at all here, but I've said my peace.

BOL anyway.

[Serbone]

TRAP OF THE YEAR!!!!!!

never trust a michigan team with a way off line like this. so much funny-business goin on in michigan sports these days. you have been warned.

of course detroits a better team and of course vegas already knows that. staying far away.

Vegas?
When the better team is the visitor against a respectible home team, the line is small. Happens all the time. It is not some big TRAP.
Public teams win a lot, too, GB this weekend 80+% had 'em. New Orleans. Others.
Handicap the game, matchups,letdowns, coming off a loss, home/away, injuries, motivation, O, D, QB's, turf, weather, coaching, etc, dont think every game is a goddam super conspiracy TRAP set by VEGAS.

[No coincidences]

Vegas?
When the better team is the visitor against a respectible home team, the line is small. Happens all the time. It is not some big TRAP.
Public teams win a lot, too, GB this weekend 80+% had 'em. New Orleans. Others.
Handcap the game, matchups, injuries, motivation, O, D, QB's, turf, weather, coaching, etc, dont think every game is a goddam super conspiracy TRAP set by VEGAS.

Glitch is so far opposite of this.

I love how when a single, isolated game or play is mentioned as a possible trap, the overreaction is "not every game is a conspiracy." Who said it was? He was commenting on this one particular game, and he's far from a conspiracy theorist.

I'm a Detroit fan. I bet with my head. Goat bets with his heart. He's lost God knows how much backing the Wings this year. I've been a Lions fan for over three decades, and this is not a good spot for them. Take that for what it's worth, which may be next to nothing for some.

[Mr Handicapable]

The Raiders were down 34-0 to Matt Moore two weeks ago. The Lions just gave up 29 first downs and 425 yards to a 2 win team. The 2 most undisciplined teams in the NFL as well. No way I play Detroit if McFadden ever makes it back. Bush is a grinder but he can't hurt you like McFadden. If no Mac then take the better QB and receivers with Detroit.

[k13]

Vegas?
When the better team is the visitor against a respectible home team, the line is small. Happens all the time. It is not some big TRAP.
Public teams win a lot, too, GB this weekend 80+% had 'em. New Orleans. Others.
Handicap the game, matchups,letdowns, coming off a loss, home/away, injuries, motivation, O, D, QB's, turf, weather, coaching, etc, dont think every game is a goddam super conspiracy TRAP set by VEGAS.

Reminds me of the Ohio State vs Duke thread....I guess getting all those points was not a trap...lol

You just said it means nothing. Everything means something.

It's not completely that vegas sets a trap, its people who trap themselves.
You have a pk'em game, why would so many people like one team over the other? In theory it's 50/50....

Then you have a game like bal/sd where the line is off, a game where they could make it -4.5 and everyone would still love Baltimore.

So what's the current record of the public in the nfl? What about following line moves?
No one seems to have any facts.

[t-wizzle]

I like Oakland at home in this spot Goat.

[Jonah]

"Vegas" has very little injury information. You can bet your bottom dollar (and I wouldn't doubt that you do every week) that you have the edge on them there!

Good one, Monk. You got me there. If I really thought someone was making the point that Vegas is less aware of injuries than the public, I would not dignify it with a response, much less get all excited like I just scored a major point or something.

I seriously have more respect for the rampant grammatical errors and remedial posts of other posters than someone with this type of intellect...by a country mile.

What I am saying is they don't get all "hot and bothered" by it as the average bettor does, or do not put as much stock in it. Often, this is to their benefit. See NBA.

[riskyProps]

After the Lions poor performance against the Vikings, I would not consider them a locked in win. Yeah, the Raiders got blown out by the Packers, but that was the Undefeated Packers! Oh wait, Miami crushed them too. Forget what I said, this game ain't even worth the bet. LOL!

[RyanLeafOfBets]

I think Lions will beast

[MonkeyF0cker]

Good one, Monk. You got me there. If I really thought someone was making the point that Vegas is less aware of injuries than the public, I would not dignify it with a response, much less get all excited like I just scored a major point or something.

I seriously have more respect for the rampant grammatical errors and remedial posts of other posters than someone with this type of intellect...by a country mile.

What I am saying is they don't get all "hot and bothered" by it as the average bettor does, or do not put as much stock in it. Often, this is to their benefit. See NBA.

LOL. Right. That's exactly what you said.

Monkey, give it a rest. Isn't there less juice if you bet another poster anyway?

This is not a a fishy line...If anyone here loves Detroit, you have the green light to pound away...There are reasons this line is close...Raiders played the Vikings better away than the Lions did at home. They beat the Bears- another team they both played -w/o Cutler, I know. Both played GB bad. Sometimes Vegas doesn't take injuries into as much account as we do. Raiders are depleted. Vegas and others still remember their better days.

You do realize that your post is still there. Right?

Did you get dropped on your head as a child (off of a skyscraper) by chance?

[a4u2fear]

Always like the write ups goat, with you on this one.

[fergie's balls]

NoCoin, not sure name of it, but i truely believe homers are more pessimistic when handicapping their squads then any other team...because as a fan of course you are watching every minute, every game, and the bad sticks with you when they lose, more then the good. im hoping this is the case as i really like Detroit this week BOL with your picks, i always follow and respect your input. cheers

[PAULYPOKER]

Detroit Lions auto-fade will be positive cashflow for rest of season.....

[Goat Milk]

Falling for the trap like with Atlanta huh... LOL at some of these clowns saying they would take it up to -7.... As always everyone just remembers "last week"

look at this troll. I posted 12/16 winners ats this week and all you can think about is the 1 thread i lost in atl two weeks ago. good contributions by you as usual.

[Goat Milk]

I like Oakland at home in this spot Goat.

why

[k13]

look at this troll. I posted 12/16 winners ats this week and all you can think about is the 1 thread i lost in atl two weeks ago. good contributions by you as usual.

That's the one that was fresh in my mind.

What about all those RedWings threads?

You must be a Detroit fan so this thread is biased.

[Goat Milk]

That's the one that was fresh in my mind. What about all those RedWings threads? You must be a Detroit fan so this thread is biased.

It's fresh in your mind because you only focus on losses. I've made money on the wings and they've all been posted. Not gonna respond to you anymore unless you have somehting to say about the game. Go ahead and take the raiders.

[Jonah]

I won already, Wankey. Those statements were essentially the same thing. Tomato/Tomato. Saying that Vegas seems to remember their better days means their input factors do in fact come from games earlier in the season.

[lakerboy]

Good Luck Goat. Why do you have to mention my name all the time?


BTW this bet wont win.

[riskyProps]

These are the two most penalized teams in the NFL this year. This game might last longer than a football game should.

If McFadden is back, the Raiders will be in beast mode. However, there are other plays better than this one.

[freakydave]

Good Luck Goat. Why do you have to mention my name all the time? BTW this bet wont win.

Detroit is officially endorsed by LB

[aggieshawn]

Lots of penalties = lots of drives saved = lots of points.
Thinking of the taking the over.

[Ibanezalk3]

Detroit ATS and the over sound like locks to me.. CJ is due for a big game and Staffords finger injury looks to be something of the past.. With that said, OAK will put up points against DET, whether its mcfadden or bush running, Det defense is not that great against the run.. Well its really not that great agaisnt anything, but DET is hungry for a playoff spot.. We do have a few good defensive players coming back from injury/suspension lol.. Det has the upside here... DET 37 OAK 31

[Ibanezalk3]

Also remember Palmer is not mobie like Ponder and Webb.. DET obviously has little answers for QB's with a little bit of speed.. DLine might give Palmer a rough day and force him to make throws he shouldn't.. So after more thought.. DET 37 OAK 23

[a4u2fear]

Fade the Raiders, Detroit gets the win, I teased them for safety.

[Goat Milk]

BTW this bet wont win.

What is your reasoning? That historically the lions suck on the road? Raiders are one of the worst teams in the AFC. They probably won't win another game this season.

[t-wizzle]

why

Let me ask you this first: Why does Detroit deserve to be a 1 point fave @ Oak?

[Goat Milk]

Let me ask you this first: Why does Detroit deserve to be a 1 point fave @ Oak?

Because of everything mentioned in the initial writeup. Didn't the raiders get blown out by the chiefs and the dolphins and the packers? One of the worst teams in the AFC, perhaps the entire NFL. Their schedule has been a joke and the last few games says it all about this team. They have no heart. The Lions worst loss in the last 2 years has been a 17 pt loss to the saints.

[k13]

Because of everything mentioned in the initial writeup. Didn't the raiders get blown out by the chiefs and the dolphins and the packers? One of the worst teams in the AFC, perhaps the entire NFL. Their schedule has been a joke and the last few games says it all about this team. They have no heart. The Lions worst loss in the last 2 years has been a 17 pt loss to the saints.

Talking about last week and the past leads to future failures.

#4 toughest schedule as of now.

How did the worst team in the AFC beat Houston? (insert your excuses) See how the past is pointless.

[t-wizzle]

Because of everything mentioned in the initial writeup. Didn't the raiders get blown out by the chiefs and the dolphins and the packers? One of the worst teams in the AFC, perhaps the entire NFL. Their schedule has been a joke and the last few games says it all about this team. They have no heart. The Lions worst loss in the last 2 years has been a 17 pt loss to the saints.

Or a 24 point loss to the Bears. And why bring up the packers? They just dismantled the lions on halloween. The chiefs game? Pretty sure kyle boller started that one.

Oakland will pound away all game in this one. On the other side, you beat the Raiders by running the ball. When have the Lions shown that they can run the ball?

I think you are forgetting that it isn't easy to travel cross country in what is pretty close to a must win game. That's especially tough for such a young team like Detroit.