Basketball Teases vs Football Teases

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  • Baseball Ted
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-30-11
    • 294

    #1
    Basketball Teases vs Football Teases
    Not sure which forum to post this in so will post here.....

    No one has ever had a good explanation or even a solid rationale for me on this topic...ever

    Why is a Football Tease 6 points and a Basketball Tease only 4 points??

    Football's a game where typically anywhere from 40-55 points will be scored total in the game, with points much more at a premium than basketball, which can range from 150 points for college to 200+ in the NBA.

    Always seemed to me that Basketball Teases should be the 6 pointers, and Football only at 4

    Does anyone know why this is?
  • kgindy
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-19-10
    • 590

    #2
    Points in football range from 6, 3, 2, 1. Basketball 3, 2, 1. So why give 6 points when avg basket is 2 points.
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    • Baseball Ted
      SBR Sharp
      • 04-30-11
      • 294

      #3
      I understand the logic but you are saying that a 6 point lead in football is equivalent to a 2 point lead in Basketball?
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      • Sniperpicks
        SBR MVP
        • 01-14-11
        • 4717

        #4
        simple answer ................. its what the books came up with years ago to offer something that looks like a LOCK WINNER but is really hedged in their favor, they got #'s guys who would make our heads spin
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        • Thunder Gulch
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-30-10
          • 996

          #5
          They are both total sucker plays so the answer is don't rack your brain figuring out the odds.
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          • Hmelly
            SBR Sharp
            • 12-03-11
            • 297

            #6
            Ive been posing that same question for years and that is why in 10yrs I have never done a basketball teaser. I must admit I sometimes like to try my luck at football teasers for very little money knowing that they are complete suckers bets. I end up mad half the time I hit a teaser because when they hit you could usually have won with a parlay anyway (and you should never feel disappointed after winning haha).
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            • big0mar
              SBR MVP
              • 01-09-09
              • 3374

              #7
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              • Jeff from Indy
                SBR High Roller
                • 05-07-10
                • 147

                #8
                Football games score in big chunks and have a higher std dev of results from expected results (the line)

                Basketball games score in smaller chunks and have a tendency to converge to the line (smaller std dev)

                Here's a thought experiment to understand this:

                Many NFL games end up with one team doubling the score on another or more, like JX 41-14 over TB yesterday

                Not many (none) NBA games are 90-44

                Hopefully that helps some - GL - Jeff from Indy
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                • BettingWizard
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-28-09
                  • 6522

                  #9
                  you just explained why basketball teasers are worthless
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                  • HoulihansTX
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-12-09
                    • 30566

                    #10
                    Never tease basketball, especially college hoops.
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                    • dfberger23
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-08-10
                      • 5069

                      #11
                      Basketball teasers are massive sucker bets.
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                      • iifold
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-25-10
                        • 11111

                        #12
                        I've always wondered how much value teasers lose in games with higher totals...(hoop and football)

                        Seems like teasing a football game with a total of 35 would make a ton more sense than teasing a game with a total in the 70's...

                        Same with hoop, teasing a Wisconsin college hoop game seems to make more sense than teasing a Warriors/Wizards game...

                        Yet they are the same
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                        • FourLengthsClear
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-29-10
                          • 3808

                          #13
                          They are calculated based on "push probabilities".

                          If we compare NFL to NBA using a base of -10.5, the following are (approximate) likelihoods:

                          NBA
                          Team wins by 10 - 4.9%
                          Team wins by 9 - 4.7%
                          Team wins by 8 - 4.5%
                          Team wins by 7 - 4.4%

                          Total in the range teased 18.5%

                          NFL
                          Team wins by 10 - 5.3%
                          Team wins by 9 - 1.2%
                          Team wins by 8 - 2.0%
                          Team wins by 7 - 6.3%
                          Team wins by 6 - 3.5%
                          Team wins by 5 - 1.8%

                          Total within the range teased is 20.1%

                          As you can see the NFL teaser is a better deal for the player, but likewise the book increased the point value to 5 (nevermind 6) it would be giving the player an edge. The 'breakeven' point for the player in terms of calculating the "range teased" is 20.6% if on a 2-teamer paying +100.
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                          • FourLengthsClear
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-29-10
                            • 3808

                            #14
                            Originally posted by iifold
                            I've always wondered how much value teasers lose in games with higher totals...(hoop and football)

                            Seems like teasing a football game with a total of 35 would make a ton more sense than teasing a game with a total in the 70's...

                            Same with hoop, teasing a Wisconsin college hoop game seems to make more sense than teasing a Warriors/Wizards game...

                            Yet they are the same
                            If you are talking about teasing the total then you are, of course, right.

                            In broad terms you give the book around 0.6% for every 7 points the total goes up.
                            I don't know the equivalent in basketball because buying points is nearly always a better proposition than teaser.
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