How to Handicap Horses Part 5: Race Styles and Pace

thezbar · 08-17-08, 09:17 PM

Very good. When handicapping horse races the first thing I do is locate the frontrunners in the race. I divide the closers into two groups / Stalkers and late runners. Then I try to see how the race pattern sets up. For anyone new to this game I would suggest trying these methods. One of the best bets in horse racing is a lone frontrunner running on a speed favoring surface. Another situation I like is when you see a stalker who can sit behind a group of speed burners and get first jump on the late closers. A textbook example of this was Heatseeker's win in this years Santa Anita handicap.
Keep the videos rolling along Dave!

VegasDave · 08-17-08, 11:39 PM

Definitely thezbar this stuff won't be new to vets like you... just hoping to help out my fellow gamblers and simplify some of the tougher aspects of handicapping

englishmike · 08-17-08, 11:42 PM

Good stuff Dave, I'm a Santa Anita regular and your vids have been very useful to me, thanks.

madmaxx · 08-17-08, 11:46 PM

When ENERGY popped up i thought you were gonna put "the ability to do work" underneath...

nice job again

Nicky Santoro · 08-17-08, 11:48 PM

usky is a good guy..

RogueJuror · 08-18-08, 12:03 AM

dave i'll check out your vid later, im f up right now, peace,

accuscoresucks · 08-18-08, 12:05 AM

good one dave
alot of info in those vids

VegasDave · 08-18-08, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by englishmike

Good stuff Dave, I'm a Santa Anita regular and your vids have been very useful to me, thanks.

Ah didn't realize you were local! We'll have to meet up out there some time and make some cash

englishmike · 08-18-08, 02:01 AM

I'm there all the time Dave, Santa Anita meet and Oak Tree, love the track and love the standard of racing. I've tried to get the same vibe about Hollywood park but I just can't do it, those two tracks are like chalk and cheese. Anytime you're headed down to Arcaida PM me or post a thread on here, I'm always up for Santa Anita and one of the biggest sporting events of the year for me is the Breeders Cup, the euros have got some ammo this year, I'm making New Approach at 10-1 in the Breeders Cup Turf my bet of the YEAR! Should be good, you going?

bettilimbroke999 · 08-18-08, 02:04 AM

Track is a great place to have fun and lose money, but rest assured it is a -EV betting opportunity, 20% vig should be illegal

englishmike · 08-18-08, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

Track is a great place to have fun and lose money, but rest assured it is a -EV betting opportunity, 20% vig should be illegal

I don't disagree but it is what it is, just gotta live with it. Having been round gambling for most of my life, in my opinion the atmosphere at a busy racetrack is the best gambling atmosphere there is.

madmaxx · 08-18-08, 02:18 AM

Pacific Classic this sunday will be a great race

englishmike · 08-18-08, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by madmaxx

Pacific Classic this sunday will be a great race

I'd love to go but I've got a bash to go to!

bbyhill · 08-18-08, 09:23 AM

another good vid Dave.

VegasDave · 08-18-08, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by madmaxx

When ENERGY popped up i thought you were gonna put "the ability to do work" underneath...

nice job again

Haha Physics 101... that would have been awesome.

VegasDave · 08-18-08, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santauro

usky is a good guy..

That is nice of you to say bud appreciate it

VegasDave · 08-18-08, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by RogueJuror

dave i'll check out your vid later, im f up right now, peace,

Ever sober up bud?

englishmike · 08-18-08, 04:01 PM

October 25th 2008. New Approach WILL win the Breeders Cup Turf at Santa Anita, this will be a steering job. You heard it here first.

madmaxx · 08-18-08, 04:42 PM

Azul Leon in the Juvenile and Well Armed in the dirt mile (if he skips the classic)

englishmike · 08-18-08, 04:44 PM

Have you seen how deep the turf is this year with Euro raiders? Weve got the first three in the betting. You yanks have got your hands full this year, best Breeders Cup in many years.

madmaxx · 08-18-08, 04:48 PM

I will be in attendance for sure

englishmike · 08-18-08, 04:49 PM

Me too.

pico · 08-18-08, 04:57 PM

nice video

VegasDave · 08-18-08, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by picoman

nice video

Thank you sir

RogueJuror · 08-18-08, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by usckingsfan31

Ever sober up bud?

yeah it makes alot more sense now, well done man !!

VegasDave · 08-18-08, 09:17 PM

Glad you liked it bud!

Remember to rate it if you have a youtube account! Makes it look more legit with some 5 star ratings

Thanks guys!

VegasDave · 08-19-08, 07:07 AM

Mike and MadMaxx, we'll all have to get together for a beer at Santa Anita

englishmike · 08-19-08, 10:22 AM

Youre on.

VegasDave · 08-19-08, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by englishmike

Youre on.

Can't wait for the horses to come back to Santa Anita and Hollywood Park... SA is about a 40 min trip for me, Hollywood Park is a mere 15 mins away (I worked in the Casino at one point actually).

Del Mar at an hour and a half away is just too damn far with gas and money being what it is today.

englishmike · 08-19-08, 05:04 PM

Del Mar is probably worth the drive. I'm about an hour from Santa Anita, I love everything about that track, I love the christmas meet that starts on the 26th, always a good card. I can't wait for the Breeders, it looks really deep and if Big Brown can get there that'll give it the publicity push it needs. Should be the best in years, I'll pm you nearer the time, we'll have a beer.

VegasDave · 08-19-08, 05:44 PM

The Breeders will be S - I - C - K... thats the kind of racing that you don't even need to bet on to enjoy.

Del Mar is worth the drive, just sucks on a limited bankroll to drive out there and lose. Its a looooong drive home.

VegasDave · 08-20-08, 12:19 PM

Morning crowd.