Is vegas up or down on the year in NFL?

[BallDontLie]

My buddy has been trying to tell me the sportsbooks have been losing more weeks than not so far this year. I say hell no. But he's convinced.... Anyone know? Stats I can throw at him? Apprec.

[allabout the $$$]

your buddy is right think in the doc from Legends interview he said the books have had like 4 or 5 good weeks dont quote me on that tho. but it has been a players year so far that is a FACT

[4TH AND STUPID]

My buddy has been trying to tell me the sportsbooks have been losing more weeks than not so far this year. I say hell no. But he's convinced.... Anyone know? Stats I can throw at him? Apprec.

books never lose because of juice...


the term books "lose" refers more to the fact that they didnt "win"... meaning they left potential profit behind from what could've been if underdogs came through or if "square" sides lost...


so in terms of what i have described, yes books have been losing more often than not this year in NFL, but im sure they will make it in 1 good week.

[BrickJames]

books never lose because of juice...


the term books "lose" refers more to the fact that they didnt "win"... meaning they left potential profit behind from what could've been if underdogs came through or if "square" sides lost...


so in terms of what i have described, yes books have been losing more often than not this year in NFL, but im sure they will make it in 1 good week.

Books can go busto just like players. Why do you think Billy Walters cant get his own bets down.

I know for a fact that David Skalansky has busted at least one book.

[PAULYPOKER]

If I'm having a tuff year for maximum profit gains the books are also because I play on their side.........

[SportsMushroom]

errr

ask your friend these questions

'how many gamblers do you know?'

and then 'how many of them are up lifetime'

noone is up lifetime, thats how you know that vegas is way up lifetime

[byronbb]

vegas is surely winning at NFl this year. However I would be quick to agree they aren't having a great season. Now that the NFL is about "protecting the quarterback" scoring is up and that favours overs and public teams with good QBs.

[SportsPedagogy]

My grandfather used to run a book, then he quit the business but still works closely with a local, he said it has been an up and down season, there have been alot of sports where the public killed it. I am not sure if he is down though.

[EastSideLV]

errr

ask your friend these questions

'how many gamblers do you know?'

and then 'how many of them are up lifetime'

noone is up lifetime, thats how you know that vegas is way up lifetime

thats rediculous.. there are definitly people who are up lifetime. the vast majority of people are not and vegas is definitly up lifetime but there are people who make their living off betting.

[k13]

vegas is surely winning at NFl this year. However I would be quick to agree they aren't having a great season. Now that the NFL is about "protecting the quarterback" scoring is up and that favours overs and public teams with good QBs.

O/U is exactly 50%, public is around 45%

perception != reality

[Inkwell77]

SportsMushroom is a moron, dude probably has never even been in a sportsbook.

It all depends on what sportsbook you are talking about in Vegas. Some books, Cantor, Coast Casinos, maybe even Hilton cater to bigger bets and sharp action. Other books, Stations, Jerry's Nugget, South Point/Palms, cater to more parlay type of bettors and are most likely up. I know that Cantor actually stopped allowing 1st half totals and 1st half sides in the same game to be parlayed together this season, most likely because they lost a lot of money allowing sharp guys to correlate these 1st half bets for large amounts.

There are a lot of people that believe that Cantor is down this season with college and nfl. Only a few people actually know what the figures are. If you just follow line movement one might conclude certain books are down money, but who knows.

[Dutch]

Vegas never loses because of losing parlays and other bullshit bets.

[Tech N9ne]

Books can go busto just like players. Why do you think Billy Walters cant get his own bets down.

I know for a fact that David Skalansky has busted at least one book.

Billy Walters has beards to place bets for him. They are on payroll..

Btw books always win

[SportsMushroom]

SportsMushroom is a moron, dude probably has never even been in a sportsbook.

It all depends on what sportsbook you are talking about in Vegas. Some books, Cantor, Coast Casinos, maybe even Hilton cater to bigger bets and sharp action. Other books, Stations, Jerry's Nugget, South Point/Palms, cater to more parlay type of bettors and are most likely up. I know that Cantor actually stopped allowing 1st half totals and 1st half sides in the same game to be parlayed together this season, most likely because they lost a lot of money allowing sharp guys to correlate these 1st half bets for large amounts.

There are a lot of people that believe that Cantor is down this season with college and nfl. Only a few people actually know what the figures are. If you just follow line movement one might conclude certain books are down money, but who knows.

you can recognize a moron from just one post because you are one sir

[VegasPlayer]

Hilton has doubled minimum bet amount effective tommorrow, but you can play all the $2 parlay cards you want.

[UNCGQ]

Vegas never loses because of losing parlays and other bullshit bets.

this.

[PAULYPOKER]

Hilton has doubled minimum bet amount effective tommorrow, but you can play all the $2 parlay cards you want.

In English,the party is over for the betting public majority.....................

[Dutch]

Hilton has doubled minimum bet amount effective tommorrow, but you can play all the $2 parlay cards you want.

What wasthe minimum before?

[Ralphie Halves]

In English,the party is over for the betting public majority.....................

Disagree. Doubling the price of crack won't make crackheads quit. Most bettors who do minimums normally put down numerous bets. Now they may just half that while still putting up the same amount of cash.

[INVEGA MAN]

the minimum was $5 and jumped to $10. by the way, when denver/san diego game went into overtime and they said line was a pick. people went rushing up to bet and when game was over, only a handfull was in line to collect. they made a killing on that overtime game

[dfberger23]

The books always win.

[lakerboy]

vegas always loses. the public always wins

[BrigadierPudding]

Kornegay from the Hilton once said sportsbooks only have to win roughly 40% of the time to come out ahead due to parlays and other exotics.

This is probably a down year for them on CFB, but they're still ahead. They will always make a killing on the NFL. A donkey could take NFL bets and make money. If sportsbetting were a casino floor, the NFL would be the slot machines.

[jjgold]

Vegas down

Public winning

[gamble9-5]

down big time but they will make some back tomorrow because the sheep are on eagles

[Mr. Peepers]

For Vegas to be down in the short term is a blessing...How many gamblers do you know that are up longterm...they always come back and drop twice as much after a few wins..

[Leo Bello]

Books can go busto just like players. Why do you think Billy Walters cant get his own bets down.

I know for a fact that David Skalansky has busted at least one book.

Is he still around? Man, he has to be in his 60s. I think it's spelled Sklanski or Sklansky. Well, if he busted them, it's their fault. They should have booted him long ago. Sharp guy and nice fella. Poker used to be his forté about 20-25 years ago. Good mathematics guy.

[tblues2005]

I think the public has been making a killing on the colleges this year without a doubt. I think the pros the books have done well.