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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #71
    Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
    the dumbest bet ever just won patty ................. why is this ?
    shouldnt of won pal u all got lucky dumb bets win too sometimes stick to mlb moneylines pal spreads are for squares

    - pat
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    • armyoflovers
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-26-07
      • 714

      #72
      I had USA -29.5 at Greek....AND WON!!!! Just had $50 on it but a win is a win!!!
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      • VegasDave
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-03-07
        • 8056

        #73
        Oooh I was close!
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        • SBR Lou
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-02-07
          • 37863

          #74
          Originally posted by armyoflovers
          I had USA -29.5 at Greek....AND WON!!!! Just had $50 on it but a win is a win!!!
          I think this calls for a disgusting post.
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          • durito
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-03-06
            • 13173

            #75
            Originally posted by usckingsfan31
            How do you become a line maker?

            How are these guys so fvking good at setting lines? Its so god damn impressive
            No really, it's not.
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82865

              #76
              Originally posted by pat venditto
              china was a terrible bet. you needed every thing to go your way to win. this was a hail mary terrible. didnt wager anything on it just sayin that was a horrible lucky win
              That's why you will always be a loser. You can't even admit you were wrong after the play cashed.
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              • rm18
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-05
                • 22291

                #77
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                That's why you will always be a loser. You can't even admit you were wrong after the play cashed.
                I guess it cashed, US covered both the opening and closing lines, and China was lucky to cover anything.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82865

                  #78
                  Originally posted by rm18
                  I guess it cashed, US covered both the opening and closing lines, and China was lucky to cover anything.
                  When you bet the -2.5 football line and you win the bet in overtime by 3 points do you consider it a victory?

                  What do you mean it just cashed? I have been touting the +32.5 and later +33.5 line for 2 weeks now.
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                  • pat venditto
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-07-07
                    • 14347

                    #79
                    exactly. the key to winning in gambling is having the best of it. china needed everything to go right to win. usa was the correct play that was a bad beat.
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                    • BeatTheJerk
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-19-07
                      • 31794

                      #80
                      Originally posted by durito
                      No really, it's not.
                      i like how durito always comes acrossed as he is the ultimate Gambling God ...............
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                      • VegasDave
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-03-07
                        • 8056

                        #81
                        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                        i like how durito always comes acrossed as he is the ultimate Gambling God ...............
                        Seriously, I didn't say anything about the lines being unbeatable or anything, just said they were very impressive.

                        But he is above acknowledging that linemakers do a great job setting lines and spreads
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                        • rm18
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-20-05
                          • 22291

                          #82
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          When you bet the -2.5 football line and you win the bet in overtime by 3 points do you consider it a victory?

                          What do you mean it just cashed? I have been touting the +32.5 and later +33.5 line for 2 weeks now.
                          The money is the same, I'm just saying a 31 point loss does nothing to prove you right, just like a 34 point loss doesn't mean it was a horrible play.
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                          • pavyracer
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82865

                            #83
                            Durito behaves like a God. I've never seen him post a play, yet he always knows after the games where over whether the lines were sharp or not.

                            On a different note I think the oddsmakers are not sharp. Look at the lines they posted for Croatia -3.5, Germany -11.5 and Spain -6.5 all won by almost 20 points the set line.
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                            • pat venditto
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-07-07
                              • 14347

                              #84
                              usa should of won by 40 +
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82865

                                #85
                                Originally posted by pat venditto
                                usa should of won by 40 +
                                If you say it about 50 times more they will replay the game. You don't want to get on my signature like Deuce and Nicky. It will be the end of your posting career at SBR like Deuce's and Nicky's careers that are dormant.
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                                • VegasDave
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-03-07
                                  • 8056

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  Durito behaves like a God. I've never seen him post a play, yet he always knows after the games where over whether the lines were sharp or not.

                                  On a different note I think the oddsmakers are not sharp. Look at the lines they posted for Croatia -3.5, Germany -11.5 and Spain -6.5 all won by almost 20 points the set line.
                                  Not necessarily olympics, I meant in general (pro football for example)... Hard to cap olympics, can't possibly know how some of these teams will play with chemistry etc.
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                                  • rm18
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-20-05
                                    • 22291

                                    #87
                                    4 of the 6 games went down to the last minute on the spread, Spain Greece was a ten point game, pretty decent.

                                    Also there will always be variance, if Croatia and Australia play tomorrow, line is 5 tops despite the blowout
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                                    • durito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-03-06
                                      • 13173

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                      i like how durito always comes acrossed as he is the ultimate Gambling God ...............
                                      Seriously, I didn't say anything about the lines being unbeatable or anything, just said they were very impressive.

                                      But he is above acknowledging that linemakers do a great job setting lines and spreads
                                      I like how you people spend a ton of time gambling and on this website, yet don't know what a point spread is, how it's set, or what it's purpose is.
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                                      • VegasDave
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-03-07
                                        • 8056

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by durito
                                        I like how you people spend a ton of time gambling and on this website, yet don't know what a point spread is, how it's set, or what it's purpose is.
                                        I know exactly what its purpose is; to invite close to equal action on both sides. I know that this number is not always a true indication of how they believe the game will go.

                                        If a book was constantly putting out super soft and beatable lines, booking wouldn't be nearly as profitable. It is seriously your belief that lines in professional sports aren't strong?

                                        Honestly dude I like your posts most of the time you are intelligent and seem to know your stuff... but that doesn't mean you have to be such an elitist though.
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                                        • durito
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-03-06
                                          • 13173

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by usckingsfan31
                                          I know exactly what its purpose is; to invite close to equal action on both sides. I know that this number is not always a true indication of how they believe the game will go.
                                          Not true.

                                          Originally posted by usckingsfan31

                                          If a book was constantly putting out super soft and beatable lines, booking wouldn't be nearly as profitable. It is seriously your belief that lines in professional sports aren't strong?
                                          They don't have to beat super soft to be profitable, advantage sports betting is about finding small edges wherever they exists (which you are right is much harder in major professional sports - not that that has anything to do with bookmakers, rather the market)


                                          Originally posted by usckingsfan31

                                          Honestly dude I like your posts most of the time you are intelligent and seem to know your stuff... but that doesn't mean you have to be such an elitist though.
                                          I am not trying to be an ass. You don't know what you want to do with your life but you love gambling? Do yourself a favor, take the time to learn everything you can about advantage gambling. It is not difficult to win, it just takes a lot of hard work, and the willingness to learn a few basic concepts that 99% of most gamblers refuse to or are unable to learn. Plenty of information is right here at sbr.

                                          Good luck.
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                                          • flyingillini
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-06-06
                                            • 41219

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by durito
                                            Not true.



                                            They don't have to beat super soft to be profitable, advantage sports betting is about finding small edges wherever they exists (which you are right is much harder in major professional sports - not that that has anything to do with bookmakers, rather the market)




                                            I am not trying to be an ass. You don't know what you want to do with your life but you love gambling? Do yourself a favor, take the time to learn everything you can about advantage gambling. It is not difficult to win, it just takes a lot of hard work, and the willingness to learn a few basic concepts that 99% of most gamblers refuse to or are unable to learn. Plenty of information is right here at sbr.

                                            Good luck.

                                            Great post! I agree with this completely.
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                                            • InTheHole
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-28-08
                                              • 15243

                                              #92
                                              Durito is right...AB is the way to go...
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82865

                                                #93
                                                Excellent post. What was his play again
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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  Excellent post. What was his play again
                                                  I don't make "picks" or "plays" pavy.
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                                                  • rm18
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-20-05
                                                    • 22291

                                                    #95
                                                    Durito hit that middle for 20k at least
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82865

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by durito
                                                      I don't make "picks" or "plays" pavy.
                                                      That's what I thought. Good luck in sport gambling. You should be even now with no plays, correct?
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                                                      • VegasDave
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-03-07
                                                        • 8056

                                                        #97
                                                        Thanks for the response Durito...

                                                        I have a pretty solid grasp on these concepts. I'm currently not betting sports because I simply don't have the bankroll to do so. Am considering making a small deposit soon, but at this point it is just a tiny hobby.

                                                        Please define "what a point spread is, how it's set, or what it's purpose is", since no one understands it and my concept of it is "not true"
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                                                        • BeatTheJerk
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 08-19-07
                                                          • 31794

                                                          #98
                                                          durito has his own lines set in butt fuked eygpt where he provides a bookmaking service ............ he's a sharp guy no doubt about it !
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82865

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                            durito has his own lines set in butt fuked eygpt where he provides a bookmaking service ............ he's a sharp guy no doubt about it !
                                                            I heard he books camel racing in Egypt but the variance will kill him eventually.
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                                                            • BeatTheJerk
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-19-07
                                                              • 31794

                                                              #100
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                                                              • donjuan
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-29-07
                                                                • 3993

                                                                #101
                                                                Seriously, I didn't say anything about the lines being unbeatable or anything, just said they were very impressive.

                                                                But he is above acknowledging that linemakers do a great job setting lines and spreads
                                                                It's not impressive at all. Beating openers is easy. Beating closing lines is not. Then try to figure out whether it's linesmakers that are good or whether it's the advantage bettors pounding their mistakes.

                                                                And you definitely do not have a solid grasp on sports betting and the math associated with it if you think that a line landing on or near a spread for a single game is impressive. Look up probability distribution for a start.
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                                                                • durito
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                                  • 13173

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by usckingsfan31

                                                                  I have a pretty solid grasp on these concepts. I'm currently not betting sports because I simply don't have the bankroll to do so. Am considering making a small deposit soon, but at this point it is just a tiny hobby.
                                                                  Building a small to medium sized bankroll from nothing is one of the easier things you can do in this industry.
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                                                                  • donjuan
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-29-07
                                                                    • 3993

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Building a small to medium sized bankroll from nothing is one of the easier things you can do in this industry.
                                                                    Especially if you have even minimal poker skill.
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