An injustice is about to occur at SBR

[sickler]

Barring a late flurry of voting by non-US residents, Pinnacle, the granddaddy of all sportsbooks, will lose top spot in the posters poll to a book which would finish a distant second if Pinny serviced the US.

Like the record-breaking home run ball of Barry Bonds, I propose an asterisk be placed on any book finishing ahead of the great Pinnacle.

[onthewhat]

Credit Wagering should have the #1 spot, that is the injustice

[sickler]

Credit Wagering should have the #1 spot, that is the injustice

Thanks, I needed a laugh.

[pat venditto]

[pico]

according to the poll, CW is likely to become #1 book.

[jtuck]

I have never been able to play there but still vote them number one, they have everything anyone could look for in a sportsbook besides catering to americans

[sickler]

Matchbook will take first place -- undeservedly so.

[tschmitt87]

Matchbook will take first place -- undeservedly so.

SBR members are majority of "US players". So why would a book that doesn't serve "US players" be number 1? Pinny is the best by far but they are not available to US players so you cannot possibly be using the full capacity of your brain when you say it is an injustice this. It's simple logic. US dominated forum=available to serve US books. MB easily deserves to be at least in the top 2. Lowest juice for "US players", fastest payouts for "US players", and extremely secure for "US players". No injustice by them being at least in the top 2 on a "US player" dominated forum. Case closed.

[sickler]

SBR members are majority of "US players". So why would a book that doesn't serve "US players" be number 1? Pinny is the best by far but they are not available to US players so you cannot possibly be using the full capacity of your brain when you say it is an injustice this. It's simple logic. US dominated forum=available to serve US books. MB easily deserves to be at least in the top 2. Lowest juice for "US players", fastest payouts for "US players", and extremely secure for "US players". No injustice by them being at least in the top 2 on a "US player" dominated forum. Case closed.

Matchbook was my #2. No doubt they deserve to be top-rated. Look at Pinnacle. They might not even crack the top five.

[tschmitt87]

Matchbook was my #2. No doubt they deserve to be top-rated. Look at Pinnacle. They might not even crack the top five.

I agree that Pinny should be no lower than #3 but it is understandable if they are not. A forum that is dominated by US members are not going to vote for something they cant use. It's a shame yes but it easy to understand why. Pinny is by far the best book for non-US players without a doubt.

[zootiehead]

Why would someone support a book they can't play at? I say to hell with them.

[pavyracer]

Voting for creditwagering as #1 ahead of Pinnacle is like voting for Bozzo the Clown as the Oscars winner instead of Al Pacino.

This speaks lowely about the type of posters, I mean clowns, we have here in this forum. Pinnacle should not be mentioned in the same sentence as creditwagering. CW are the size of sardines whereas Pinnacle is the blue whale.

What a bunch of pathetic clowns we have here for voters. Shame. This day will live in infamy.

[tschmitt87]

Voting for creditwagering as #1 ahead of Pinnacle is like voting for Bozzo the Clown as the Oscars winner instead of Al Pacino.

This speaks lowely about the type of posters, I mean clowns, we have here in this forum. Pinnacle should not be mentioned in the same sentence as creditwagering. CW are the size of sardines whereas Pinnacle is the blue whale.

What a bunch of pathetic clowns we have here for voters. Shame. This day will live in infamy.

I agree that there is NO WAY creditwagering should be voted ahead of pinnacle under any circumstance. It is amazing that they are even available to be voted on. I believe a book should be around for atleast a year before they can be voted on or at least have a NFL and MLB season under their belt. Its scary players trust them so fast but time will tell how secure and how trust worthy they really are. Im not going near them.

[sickler]

Asterisks have to be involved. There has to be some way to warn non-US newbies to pay no attention to the Posters Poll.

[tschmitt87]

Asterisks have to be involved. There has to be some way to warn non-US newbies to pay no attention to the Posters Poll.

I believe there should be a separate poll. One for US players and one for non-US players. It seems like the only logical solution to bring out the best for both equations.

[accuscoresucks]

[Brady2Moss]

i love pinny

[3PtShooter]

who cares ,just bet em

[SSLP]

This comes down , not if you can play there BUT realizing which is the best operation.

When Pinny was in the US market they were giants SECOND to none . They paid me in 3 minutes last week. I have friends in Europe and in Asia that get paid in 2 minutes sometimes.

Their limits when you log in is $30,000 for spread and $50,000 for Moneyline and $30,000 for totals.

WHAT other book gives those limits away , without even having to ask them for it.

-Early lines
-Best line around
-FAST payout , the fastest in the world maybe
-SOLID book no BS
-Great CS , and quick email response
-I have played there for 3 years and not once have I had to contact CS


Name me another book that gives these all out without even having to ask for it??

Not even Bookmaker , which to me they are 2nd best in the world

[robmpink]

Voting for creditwagering as #1 ahead of Pinnacle is like voting for Bozzo the Clown as the Oscars winner instead of Al Pacino.

This speaks lowely about the type of posters, I mean clowns, we have here in this forum. Pinnacle should not be mentioned in the same sentence as creditwagering. CW are the size of sardines whereas Pinnacle is the blue whale.

What a bunch of pathetic clowns we have here for voters. Shame. This day will live in infamy.

Pavy, your mom voted for creditwagering.

[sickler]

I believe there should be a separate poll. One for US players and one for non-US players. It seems like the only logical solution to bring out the best for both equations.

I agree with this.

Or do away with the poll altogether.

[englishmike]

I agree with this.

Or do away with the poll altogether.

I agree too. And whilst we're at it, why doesn't SBR just devise a questionaire that would include questions like: Best & Worst non-available US book, Best and Worst available US books. Best Euro book, Best book with less than a year's history(CW?)
By devising a questionaire, not only would it be informative but it would be a damn good read as well.

[Bill Dozer]

I hear what you guys are saying about Pinnacle but this is your poll...the SBR Poster Poll. For your reasons, you choose the books you like and don't like. I can see Pinnacle fading out of this poll with a lot new US sports fans coming in that have not been able to taste the Pinny pie.

[englishmike]

I hear what you guys are saying about Pinnacle but this is your poll...the SBR Poster Poll. For your reasons, you choose the books you like and don't like. I can see Pinnacle fading out of this poll with a lot new US sports fans coming in that have not been able to taste the Pinny pie.

Fair point. Supply and demand.

[tschmitt87]

I hear what you guys are saying about Pinnacle but this is your poll...the SBR Poster Poll. For your reasons, you choose the books you like and don't like. I can see Pinnacle fading out of this poll with a lot new US sports fans coming in that have not been able to taste the Pinny pie.

I agree

[treece]

Pinny shouldn't have pussed out and left the US in the first place. BetCris didn't do that they were smart enough to create another book which is Bookmaker to serve US players. Pinny should do the same thing.

[rm18]

Pinny shouldn't have pussed out and left the US in the first place. BetCris didn't do that they were smart enough to create another book which is Bookmaker to serve US players. Pinny should do the same thing.

they cut a deal with the feds to leave the US

[pavyracer]

Pavy, your mom voted for creditwagering.

Is this the best you have? My mother, who does not gamble, knows about Pinnacle but when I told her about creditwagering she said: "They are going down son. No book will survive on credit. Just wait till football starts and they will be up in smoke."

[TodaysAction]

Barring a late flurry of voting by non-US residents, Pinnacle, the granddaddy of all sportsbooks, will lose top spot in the posters poll to a book which would finish a distant second if Pinny serviced the US.

Like the record-breaking home run ball of Barry Bonds, I propose an asterisk be placed on any book finishing ahead of the great Pinnacle.

They left the US market - screw `em. Let the rest of the world play there. MatchBook, 5Dimes, BJM, Greek, BookMaker and others gladly took the void that was left. Why should a person from America vote for them, when they can't legally play there? Until they open back up to the US of A market, they don't crack the top 10.

[sickler]

I hear what you guys are saying about Pinnacle but this is your poll...the SBR Poster Poll. For your reasons, you choose the books you like and don't like. I can see Pinnacle fading out of this poll with a lot new US sports fans coming in that have not been able to taste the Pinny pie.

Problem is the top 5 results receive great exposure at the top of the page. Right underneath the banners. I suppose it doesn't matter much since Pinnacle isn't one of those banners. Will Pinnacle still be the SBR top-rated book?

[JoshW]

It is a valid issue, but that just means we need more player outside the US to signup and vote. In the past I would have voted them in my top 3, but if a player doesn't have access to them, it can't make their top 3.

[JC]

If Pinnacle wanted to be #1 in the SBR poll, they shouldn't have dropped out of the US market. That was their decision.

[pavyracer]

If Pinnacle wanted to be #1 in the SBR poll, they shouldn't have dropped out of the US market. That was their decision.

Like Pinnacle cares about the SBR Poll. They are a billion dollar business son.

[Bet Shooter]

SBR John, what about the poll only including the books that you guys have actually met with, have pictures of, and you know there histories. This would keep the CW's of the world from getting on the list and then SBR having to defend the rankings if there is unforseen trouble down the road with one of these types of books.

My two cents

[durito]

Betfair never finishes in the top 3 in this poll -- and it would if US players could play there. Same difference.