How can the Pirates be a +255 dog?

[mathdotcom]

Or, more importantly, who the hell would lay that kinda chalk on the Dbacks??

[pat venditto]

unreal.

[ryanXL977]

i would not lay -250 on az
but haren is as good as it gets
if you think pitt will win a game here, then i guess you have to take pitt all 3

[The HG]

Yeah it is a strange line at first, but Haren is as steady as they come. If he gives another 7 IP 2 ER start, which is very likely, it will be very very unlikely Pitt will win.

Remember, Ari at -280 still means they have to win only 73% of the time to break even. What are the chances Haren doesn't have a 7 ip 2 ER start? If he does, what are the chances Pitt wins anyway?

[Tsoprano]

Pitt. came through as a BIG DOG this week against the cubs, wouldnt be surprised if they do it again.

[bmw530i]

put a hundo on Pitt. ok frendo

[ryanXL977]

pitt came thru vs marquis, not haren

[wtt0315]

arizona wins easily here. I am a strong believer in there is no value in betting on a dog if they lose. i would rather bet 100 and win 50 on a -200 favorite then bet 50 to possibly win 100 on a +200 wager and lose. No value in losing. Stay away from the game tonight if the juice is to high but dont take pitt. If you must take a dog tonight go with cleveland or with atlanta. wow never thought i would say atlanta and win in the same sentence

[ryanXL977]

az will slaughter pitt tonite
a much better dog bet is oak vs halladay

[HeeeHAWWWW]

No value in losing.

Doesn't make sense. Value is prediction-based. If you're predicting 100% they're going to lose, there's no value in the first place (and same up to 72%).

[element1286]

Herrera is awful, so I understand the line, but I wouldn't take either side.

[bigugly]

I won't be looking at this game, but it shocked the hell out of me to see Arizona as that high of a favorite. Cubs that heavily favored is one thing, but Dbacks...I don't know, though they have been playing better.

[ryanXL977]

solely based on haren i guess

[awholelottalumps]

They'll be lucky to score 2 runs here.Run line on Arizona is the way to go here.Haren should breeze through the Pirates hitters.

[pavyracer]

Herrera is awful, so I understand the line, but I wouldn't take either side.

He shutout San Diego that has an offense as bad as the DBacks.

[nervlol]

I think im just going to play the over in this game.

[ryanXL977]

san diegos offense is WAY worse than az
az is at home, and az has the best pitcher in the nl going
where is the value on pitt

[mathdotcom]

Where's the possible value?

The fact that anything can happen in a single MLB game

[element1286]

He shutout San Diego that has an offense as bad as the DBacks.

His stuff is very bad, he has no out pitch. He is throwing a 80's fastball with not much movement, and he struggles throwing the curve for a strike.

[pavyracer]

Pirates swept Astros on the road. There is no value in betting the Diamondbacks tonight. Haren gave up 3 runs against Pirates in last start against them and didn't win the game.

[ryanXL977]

i agree, i wouldnt bet az either
but i wouldnt bet pitt just bc of the +250
if it was maholm maybe, but not this scrub

[pavyracer]

i agree, i wouldnt bet az either
but i wouldnt bet pitt just bc of the +250
if it was maholm maybe, but not this scrub

Exactly. There is no value in Diamomdbacks at -290.

[ryanXL977]

that is true

[Crayzee]

i think it has something to do with thme sucking really bad and having got rid of their best players

[johnnymapalo]

I don't know. Pitt might have a chance. Arizona has never seen Herrara pitch before and he might be that element of surprise.. On the other hand, Pitt has seen Haren before and know his pitches so they may get a steal here. Juss keep it a low scoring game and its a steal for Pitt just like they did the Cubs. The only thing I'm worried about though is Herrara's pitching. the guy is atrocious...

[ryanXL977]

pitt isny playing marquis
and pitt won bc the cubs didnt hit with risp. those things even out

haren isnt marquis

[pavyracer]

I threw $100 on Pirates +255 ML FF.

[mtneer1212]

Anyone who bet Arizona -275 also just laid 3 runs ---- 3-0 Buccos

[onthewhat]

I threw $100 on Pirates +255 ML FF.

[biggamer3]

Today is Dog Day

Texas,Houston,Pitt,Nationals all big dogs, all looking good

[Iwinyourmoney]

I put $50 on each big dog tonight for the hell of it

[Wilforth]

I put $50 on each big dog tonight for the hell of it

That was very wise of you.
The Astros, Nationals and Pirates might all win their games tonight.
GL, buddy.

[biggamer3]

BTW this Pitt pitcher is the worst pitcher i have seen this year

Linesmakers knew what they were doing

[Dashwood Clipper]

Herrera is the worst pitcher to enter the league as long as I can remember. Can anyone name a worse pitcher?

[bmw530i]

Pavvy nice so far...