palmer going to the raiders!

[crustyme]

Now going further and comparing him to rivers the last 2 years is just laughable
2009- Rivers 4,254 yards, 28 TD, 9 INT. Palmer 3,094 yards, 21 TD, 13 picks

2010- Rivers 4,710 yards, 30 TD, 13 INT. Palmer- 3,970 26 td, 20 picks

Not even close, as i said.

sure, then scott mitchell was a better qb than montana:

mitchell's best season: 4338 yds 32 tds 12 int
montana's best season: 3910 yds 26td 12 int

[zsr]

sure, then scott mitchell was a better qb than montana: mitchell's best season: 4338 yds 32 tds 12 int montana's best season: 3910 yds 26td 12 int

Lol. You just got buried and this is your best response? Fukin lol at you trying to compare palmer to rivers when he's not even as good as kyle orton. I really have no clue why you keep trying to defend palmer, all his number came 2007 and before. After that he's literally bottom 10 quarterback in the league if you go by stats. Before 2008 he was who you think he is, now your just making a fool out of yourself.

[Bcatswin]

I know Palmer is def not the same player he was. Ever since the injury against the Steelers in the Playoffs he has seemed very cautious in the pocket, although with that said look at his numbers the last how many games last year when Ocho, and T.O. were not playing, they were much better than through out the season.

[crustyme]

one of the reasons why carson palmer struggled the last couple years in cincy was because TO and ocho cinco would simply run wrong routes and sometimes give up and stop running all together.

Look what ocho is doing in new england. He stinks.

This oakland d and runningbacks might be the best palmer has had. Oakland doesn't have an elite 1 wr but they do have some good 2 and 3 wr's and speed

but he didn't struggle. led bungles to division title in 2009 and passed for nearly 4000 yds in 2010.

but you do make a good point as to why some of his passes were intercepted.

[zsr]

but he didn't struggle. led bungles to division title in 2009 and passed for nearly 4000 yds in 2010. but you do make a good point as to why some of his passes were intercepted.

Now going further and comparing him to rivers the last 2 years is just laughable
2009- Rivers 4,254 yards, 28 TD, 9 INT. Palmer 3,094 yards, 21 TD, 13 picks

2010- Rivers 4,710 yards, 30 TD, 13 INT. Palmer- 3,970 26 td, 20 picks

Not even close, as i said.

[jollyoscars]

palmer will win super bowl mvp. bet on it now!

[crustyme]

Lol. You just got buried and this is your best response? Fukin lol at you trying to compare palmer to rivers when he's not even as good as kyle orton.

i did exactly what you did: picked a small sample to compare. i guess you missed the irony.

[zsr]

i did exactly what you did: picked a small sample to compare. i guess you missed the irony.

Your right, keep using palmers stats before he got injured to defend your point. It really is a shame he got hurt because he was on his way to the hall of fame, now he's worse than kyle orton.

[crustyme]

palmer
2005 3836 yds 32 td 12 int
2006 4035 yds 28 td 13 int
2007 4131 yds 26 td 20 int

rivers
2005 115 0 1
2006 3388 22 9
2007 3152 21 15

orton
2005 1869 9 13
2006 0
2007 478 3 2

i win.

[crustyme]

Your right, keep using palmers stats before he got injured to defend your point. It really is a shame he got hurt because he was on his way to the hall of fame, now he's worse than kyle orton.

is orton hurt? why isn't he playing anymore?

[zsr]

When did oakland get a time machine? Your argument was right now who is better, like i said it's not even close. Go troll somewhere else

[crustyme]

When did oakland get a time machine? Your argument was right now who is better, like i said it's not even close. Go troll somewhere else

palmer had more passing yards than rodgers or brady last season, you moron. if that's your definition of washed up then i guess rodger and brady should hang it up too.



who is better?

palmer = worth 2 1st rounds
orton = couldn't get 2 jockstraps

[zsr]

palmer had more passing yards than rodgers or brady last season, you moron. if that's your definition of washed up then i guess rodger and brady should hang it up too.



who is better?

palmer = worth 2 1st rounds
orton = couldn't get 2 jockstraps

obviously im talking about rivers. Not even close, as i said. Go troll somewhere else

[zsr]

I always lol when people think they know it all, get buried, then try to get in a pissing match to prove there right. Obviously your fukin wrong, everything i posted proves that. Wtf is so hard about admitting your completely wrong? Get in a pissing match with someone else im done with this thread

[crustyme]

I always lol when people think they know it all, get buried, then try to get in a pissing match to prove there right. Obviously your fukin wrong, everything i posted proves that. Wtf is so hard about admitting your completely wrong? Get in a pissing match with someone else im done with this thread

no one here said palmer was better than rivers the past 2 seasons.

that something you made up cause you were getting trounced in the original argument.

it's called denial.

[Roadtrip635]

Bengals fans have got to be jumping for joy today. Two first round picks for Palmer is just insane, if/when it doesn't work, someone's head needs to roll for making that deal.

[4TH AND STUPID]

oakland just spent all their money on baltic avenue.


too bad that property isnt worth shit. by the time they pass GO they will wont have any money to even build a house on it.


in non-monopoly terms-- they are fukked and that was stupid as sh1t and if anybody actually thinks trading 2 first round picks for one of the worst qbs in the NFL over the last 5 years was a good move then they should never form an opinion again.

[Bcatswin]

Bengals fans have got to be jumping for joy today. Two first round picks for Palmer is just insane, if/when it doesn't work, someone's head needs to roll for making that deal.

City is in a craze right now Road, i just gained a grain of respect for Mike Brown

[tblues2005]

I think it might be a good deal for Oakland. They sure needed a QB bad. I think they could be in the playoffs if they had one. They sure are taking a risk but they think it would be worth it for this year to get to the playoffs.

[Roadtrip635]

City is in a craze right now Road, i just gained a grain of respect for Mike Brown

I figured you'd be pretty thrilled by this deal Bcats!
I really think someone needs to call the police, the Raiders were the victims in this crime. Mike Brown clearly raped the entire Raider organization.

[Lo-CalDallasBuKe]

oakland just spent all their money on baltic avenue. too bad that property isnt worth shit. by the time they pass GO they will wont have any money to even build a house on it. in non-monopoly terms-- they are fukked and that was stupid as sh1t and if anybody actually thinks trading 2 first round picks for one of the worst qbs in the NFL over the last 5 years was a good move then they should never form an opinion again.

[Bcatswin]

Road at the pic

People on NFL Network are voting at about 62% that Oakland got the better deal.

[Roadtrip635]

Road at the pic

People on NFL Network are voting at about 62% that Oakland got the better deal.

That's OK, just take all those picks and laugh all the way to the draft!

[Lo-CalDallasBuKe]

Road at the pic People on NFL Network are voting at about 62% that Oakland got the better deal.

Those analyst on the NFL Network are looking at this from a short-term perspective.

Yeah it may look good to have Carson Palmer right now....anyone can see it is better than having KB back there......

However, Bengals basically lose nothing and gain two first round draft picks.

They were never going to get Palmer to play again and the most they really should have gotten for him was a single 3rd rounder at best.

[ryan1200]

Hell yeas win now

[Scully]

Palmer is way overrated..he has been average at best since he was injured in that playoff game against Pitt years back. As a Chargers fan, I hope Oakland gave up a 1st rounder for this turd

Hell he can't be any worse than the overrated fa\*\*ot tossing balls to the fans in SD.

[ThaTopMoron]

so will dumb ppl be betting on the Raiders now more than ever, while SBR can fade em now get a better price and watch as Palmer throws pick 6 after pick 6 and negates all the positive from the run game?

seriously his game vs the Colts last year... and that is just one example

[laclippers504]

Raiders to the superbowl

[iifold]

AFC is not very strong this year...

If there was a year to try and sneak in...

This is it...

[freakydave]

Yes, give them a standing ovation for have Kyle Boller as their backup QB and then having to spend 2 1st round picks to bring in another QB who has not played well in a long time. I could see if their 1st string and 2nd string went down, but they made the choice to have Boller as the backup. Oh, and blowing a 3rd round pick on a QB as well for next year.

You talk like draft picks are gold (there not) & Palmer is an elite QB comparable to Rivers & others -He is a professional athlete who has played football his entire life-it might take a couple of weeks to get the timing & chemistry going but this is a decent risk to take for a couple draft picks.The Raiders may finally have a real QB as opposed to jason campbell et al.Finally I didn't applaud them for having Campbell & Boller in the first place. I applaud them for recognising they had to do something & doing something as opposed to what most gm's do during a season when bad things happen.

[zsr]

Your an idiot. Carson isnt even better than kyle orton, let alone rivers. Watch what he does in oakland, it will be the same thing he did with the bengals last year. I wonder what you'll be saying then, oh, he didnt have time to learn the playbook, oh the raiders have no wideouts, oh the offensive line sucks. People here dont even watch football.

[Lo-CalDallasBuKe]

Carson is back!

[ncsubowen]

You talk like draft picks are gold (there not) & Palmer is an elite QB comparable to Rivers & others -He is a professional athlete who has played football his entire life-it might take a couple of weeks to get the timing & chemistry going but this is a decent risk to take for a couple draft picks.The Raiders may finally have a real QB as opposed to jason campbell et al.Finally I didn't applaud them for having Campbell & Boller in the first place. I applaud them for recognising they had to do something & doing something as opposed to what most gm's do during a season when bad things happen.

The Raiders did make a smart move, they needed a QB for sure.

However, Palmer hasn't been an elite QB in years. He is serviceable, but his focus on the game is virtually gone and he has a limp noodle for an arm these days. You think months of drinking and bangin' hotties in SoCal has picked up that arm strength any? The man doesn't even have to tug his own rooster, much less pump iron.

Raiders gave up a lot to try and contend this season and did it with one of the better available options, but lets not confuse Palmer with an elite QB here.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

mortgaging future for a "servicable QB" ?

[biggie1]

The Raiders did make a smart move, they needed a QB for sure.

However, Palmer hasn't been an elite QB in years. He is serviceable, but his focus on the game is virtually gone and he has a limp noodle for an arm these days. You think months of drinking and bangin' hotties in SoCal has picked up that arm strength any? The man doesn't even have to tug his own rooster, much less pump iron.

Raiders gave up a lot to try and contend this season and did it with one of the better available options, but lets not confuse Palmer with an elite QB here.