how to guarantee yourself to lose money in gambling.

[Nicky Santoro]

Just bet on big market teams..


The Yankees are by far the most popular team in sports... All the squares love to bet the NYY.. Well, believe it or not, despite the great success of the NYY and all those world series, had you been betting the NYY in every game in the last 10 yrs, you'd be down close to 120 units. So if you are betting 1 dime a game on a team that's won an avg of 100 games per season, you'd be down over 120,000, just on the yankees alone.. Imagine betting on a team that wins close to 100 games each season for the last 10 yrs, and you'd be down an eighth of a million dollars. What if they would have won 94 games each year? you'd be on the street. The NYY would have had to avg going 107-55 each year to barely show a profit.. imagine that.

Also, if you are betting the most popular team in the L.A. Lakers for the last 7 yrs, you'd also be down close to 60 units. And the Lakers are a great team.

The whole point of this is that betting against teams like the NYY and the Lakers can make you money in the long run because those lines are always bumped because everyone likes to bet them. Just look what happened in the finals when the Lakers were big favs over the best team by far in the NBA.. people still pounded the Lakers.

moral of the story.. watch out and dont fall for this. books want you to bet lakers and yankees..that's where books make most of their money.. off the squares that love these teams...

[Panic]

You've just been a big barrel of optimism lately, Nicky.

[Nicky Santoro]

panic, since the vid, 1.5 units lost yesterday and another 2 units lost today. panic, i just can't win anymore. panic, i dont know what to do. what did i ever do to deserve this? i pray everyday.. i went to church 3 months ago.. i dont commit any sins.. i helped an old lady today with her grocery bags.. i gave to charity last week.. i dont get it.

[SBR Lou]

This is actually an excellent post, and I recommend readers take it seriously.

[englishmike]

What other teams would you put on the list? Pats? Cubbies? Cowboys?

[Panic]

I was in the same boat, Nicky. I even went to see a therapist. I told him I was a gambling addict and cant pick a winner and on top of it, I'm also addicted to posting on a sports forum. He told me to cool off til football season and post Hot Women threads when I feel the urge to post picks. Its my therapy.

[Nicky Santoro]

i know for a fact the Cubbies are overpriced this year. there is no way they should be -230 every game at home like they are.. but people will continue to pour on the cubbies at any given price.

look out for the pats this year.. i know for a fact that the pats this year will also be overpriced.. and if you ever want to bet against them on a nationally televised game.. i'd wait till the last minute, cause the squares will move that line way way up and then you grab the other side

who doesn't want to bet the pats -13.5 on sun or monday night vs broncos, in new england? can you see anyone taking the +13.5?

[RogueJuror]

Once again you are right Nicky, flowing againts Real Madrid from 2001-02 to 2004-05 yielded heralded results, you should have seen it Nicky, this was stuff of legends. This team was made of nothing but star names, it was like the '92 US Men Olympic team, except this wasn't a short tournament it went on for many years. Now just the Madrid name alone carries its weight but with so many star names people forgot the disappointment of the previous week, now a regular fav went even further giving the opossite side the extra quater ball handicap or complete extra hook. Nicky it was just amazing how it kept on, it seemed people never grasp that big markets (most of the time) represents an under value.

[pat venditto]

baltimores gonna beat nyy tommorow.

[Nicky Santoro]

yes rogie, that's great.. the perfect example was teh Lakers in the finals. not having home court, playing against best team in NBA.. and being -180 in the series.. and in all 5 games, when the opening line came out,, the laker bets were pouring in..

if that series price opened at -230 instead of -180, the public still would have pounded the lakers. these squares dont know what the real price is.. as long as Kobe is on that team, that's the team they are betting..

it's like this for a lot of teams in pro sports. no matter what the price, the squares will still pound it.. the yankees are one of them.. just like i'm sure there are teams like that in soccer, too.

[sickler]

Add the Bosox to the list of overpriced teams.

[Al Masters]

Just bet on big market teams..


The Yankees are by far the most popular team in sports... All the squares love to bet the NYY.. Well, believe it or not, despite the great success of the NYY and all those world series, had you been betting the NYY in every game in the last 10 yrs, you'd be down close to 120 units. So if you are betting 1 dime a game on a team that's won an avg of 100 games per season, you'd be down over 120,000, just on the yankees alone.. Imagine betting on a team that wins close to 100 games each season for the last 10 yrs, and you'd be down an eighth of a million dollars. What if they would have won 94 games each year? you'd be on the street. The NYY would have had to avg going 107-55 each year to barely show a profit.. imagine that.

Also, if you are betting the most popular team in the L.A. Lakers for the last 7 yrs, you'd also be down close to 60 units. And the Lakers are a great team.

The whole point of this is that betting against teams like the NYY and the Lakers can make you money in the long run because those lines are always bumped because everyone likes to bet them. Just look what happened in the finals when the Lakers were big favs over the best team by far in the NBA.. people still pounded the Lakers.

moral of the story.. watch out and dont fall for this. books want you to bet lakers and yankees..that's where books make most of their money.. off the squares that love these teams...

Nice post Nicky, lots of knowledge in that noggin of yours.

Would you say the same applied to your team(the Canadians)
back in the day?

I'd like to see their stats vs the line during the years 76' thru 79'.

They never lost on saturday nights, and one year they lost a grand total of 8 games.

You must of been nervous laying huge in this game vs the leafs, but your Friend Lafleur and associates, quickly cleaned up there mess........enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTJw2lYgXOA&feature=related

[Nicky Santoro]

al,

i mean this in a very straight way.. I LOVE YOU MAN.. i dont know how you find these youtubes. that's why i mentioned you in my vid. that roger doucet again singing o canada.. chills down my spine. nobody did it better. i wish people here knew who he was.. but i'd say 3 people here at sbr have heard of him.. i love roger doucet. and how can you not love GUY LAFLEUR.. those habs were great..

as for the 60-8-12 record habs back in 76-77.. i will bet you that if they had the odds up back then, that even the habs might have lost money had you bet on them every game..

here is why.

those lines must've been mtl -4.5 goals every game, cause they were so good.. so if the habs won 6 games by 1 goal, and 6 games by 2 goals, 6 games by 3 goals, 6 games by 4, plus the 12 ties.. that would mean they went 36-44 ATS..

you see al, even the great teams will lose money in gambling, because the line is already applied in.. doesn't matter if you are the lakers, redsox, yankees or habs of the 70's, who were great. you will lose.

[Al Masters]

-4.5 goals per game

[Al Masters]

Nicky, ever hear of a game called Barbut?

[Nicky Santoro]

no.. what is that>?

[Al Masters]

Old fashioned dice game.......big gambling game!

[Al Masters]

NICKY........ever hear of a place called Piazza Tomazza?

[Nicky Santoro]

ok i know that game.. i play alot of brishcola..italian card gamel i am great at it.. and yes, you mean piazza tomasso right? not piazza tomazza.

[Al Masters]

ok i know that game.. i play alot of brishcola..italian card gamel i am great at it.. and yes, you mean piazza tomasso right? not piazza tomazza.

YES, correct....Tomasso....then you must know BB across the street?

[chipski]

celtics are a big market team as well .
spurs swept the cavs the year before no problem .
but if the cavs would have won people would have something to twist around about that occurence . ooh , the spurs are big market team/name/too old you should have known better . you know you dont bet against lebron ..
no matter what occurs in sports people pick out the part they like and run with it ...
(it all balances out)

colts beat the bears the super bowl before last , colts are a big market team no different than the spurs that come on tnt every thurs night ..

year before that the refs gave the steelers the win over the seahawks . i dont think we will find any bigger market , bigger name team that the pittsburgh steelers , ever !
ooh , the cowboys , yeah .

you would need to list these big market teams for me to make heads or tails of this piece .

you saying people would lose $ betting on yanks since xx date . who in their right mind would bet on the same team every day ? people that have alot of $ and dont care about losing it either way so that BRAINSTORM would not apply to the majority or even be applicable period .

big market teams like the yanks ? the yanks just won 8 games in a row .. i dont think it matters what label you put on any team . it all simply comes down to the game in question and what takes place on the field on said day .

the probelm with your brainstorm is what if say the ny yanks go on another big winning streak this year .. what side would you be on .. would you really even be in tune to this occurence before the fact at all ?

if too deep i understand .

[frostno98]

Dallas is a big Market team, pretty obvious and they are not consistent on the ATS yearly.

Patriot on the other hand, are they consider a big Market team? I think they are because they are very popular thanks to three super bowl rings during the last 7 years and stud QB. While glancing at the Pats ATS wise, I notice that they are an unbelievable 72-40-3 ATS (Not counting Preseason or Playoffs) since their 1st super bowl championship in 2001-2002. That's 7 years of consistency.

That's almost 10 units profit per NFL season. If you were to blindly bet the Patriots only during the regular season, you'll be living large if your were a 5dime or 2nickel player.

[chipski]

wow, sweet frost , wonder how the pats will start off this year -13.5 at home against kc ?
pats covered 7 or 8 out the gate last year ..

the public was also all over the bulls with mj ..
superstars , and yes they are always up and coming in all sports .
no one is born a superstar , is a growing process for most to BLOOM .
some just happen out of the blue .. guys sprout their wings and shine on certain days , they just blow up .

spotting this before everyone else knows is a storm to open up the cranium and can be serious $ making potential storm as well . one that most would not believe you pulled off .. and after you pull it off , ooh boy does that feel like something special !

[Saunders FTW]

werent the lakers pretty good ATS this season?

[SBR_John]

Man you guys have some awesome stats. I'd be nervous to bet against the yanks this year because they dont look juiced on the lines like years past or maybe its just me. What were they last night like +175ish? But overall I agree. I was a big Cowboy fan when they were rolling and the spread always seemed 3-4 points inflated.

[jjgold]

Any local bookmaker if fairly sharp is going to over price the local team, it is easy money for them as many bettors just will not go against their favorite local teams. Bookies are rich for various reasons.

[treece]

Yankees aren't doing so bad this year money wise, only down about 5 units. If you bet against Seattle, Cleveland and San Diego you'd be on fvckin easy street. covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/statistics/2008/teammoneystatistics_mlb_regular.html

[jgm1967]

panic, since the vid, 1.5 units lost yesterday and another 2 units lost today. panic, i just can't win anymore. panic, i dont know what to do. what did i ever do to deserve this? i pray everyday.. i went to church 3 months ago.. i dont commit any sins.. i helped an old lady today with her grocery bags.. i gave to charity last week.. i dont get it.

nicky ,I think you need to wager more sports,For instance,I love tennis and if you know how to wager its a great sport to make money on.

I read a site called tennisinsight and follow a guy named destroyer and I read a couple more forums ..tons of great picks on tennis insight.

baseball is a grind, a season long grind.

[durito]

Lakers were 56-44-3 ATS this season

[doodle2576]

I think the easiest way to lose at gambling right now is to bet at Bodog. Regardless of whether you when or lose on the games, getting paid is the problem. What good is it to win if you can't get paid?

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Same in soccer. Always bet against England and Man Utd.

[treece]

Same in soccer. Always bet against England and Man Utd.

I'm surprised England didn't even make it to the Euro Cup.

[chipski]

the boston rsox are a big market team .
what happened when they played in the world series ?
the big market team the boston rsox swept 4 - 0 both times ..
if the cards or rockies would have won one of those series people
would use that as a reference as well , just like you are using the yanks
and lakers reference ..

baseball can be a tale of 1st half vs 2nd half and if you compare one to the other you can end up lost .
really you have to gauge it day by day , week by week or by month , teams have great months as well as 500 or below months .

talking about the yanks this year ? they were in the trying to avoid the 3 game sweep cat many times in the 1st half of the season .
that was then and this is now is the bottom line .
i say yanks are overrated sure , whether it holds true or not only matters in the 58 games they have left to play in the reg sason of 08 . all other reference or talk about the nyy is just talk .
what will the nyy do in the remaining 58 games of 08 ?
because they are a BIG MARKET TEAM IS NOT REALLY SAYING ANYTHING in how they will actually perform today , next week or sept 1st ..

people that talk like this with the dont go with the monster name team feel ooh soo good when teams like the nyy fail .. watch xman win 3 or 4 game by himself this year..

[Nicky Santoro]

Patriot on the other hand, are they consider a big Market team? I think they are because they are very popular thanks to three super bowl rings during the last 7 years and stud QB. While glancing at the Pats ATS wise, I notice that they are an unbelievable 72-40-3 ATS (Not counting Preseason or Playoffs) since their 1st super bowl championship in 2001-2002. That's 7 years of consistency.

only reason why pats are doing so good is because it's barely over 100 games.. too small a sample size.. yankees are down so much because it's over 2,000 games, big difference... call me back after the pats have played 1,000 games ATS.. and i will bet my life savings they will be down money. winning 64% over barely 100 games is not so uncommon. now the pats lines will start to be inflated, so watch now.. prior to 3 yrs ago, they weren't really a big market name.. unlike today.

THE PATS WILL BE DOWN MONEY AFTER 1000 GAMES.. 100%

[gordon gekko]

The people who do this are the average recreational players.. The squares..