When is SBR adding Credit Wagering to the ratings index

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  • onthewhat
    Restricted User
    • 05-14-08
    • 15411

    #1
    When is SBR adding Credit Wagering to the ratings index
    I've spoken to Ben on the phone a few times and they are the real deal guys they assured me they are in it for the long haul.

    When will they be added to the ratings index?

    I'd give them a solid B rating, only problems with their book is the lines are off on public teams and they don't have a lot of wagering options. Payouts are best in the business IMO.
  • durito
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-03-06
    • 13173

    #2
    I believe SBR has said that as soon they are willing to reveal where they are, who they are, and what their business plan is, then they will rate them like other books.

    As long it's 4 dudes in a basement in mississippi, probably not.
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    • Iwinyourmoney
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-18-07
      • 18368

      #3
      Since SBR cant visit them, SBR wont give them B- or above. I agree, CW should be at least a B.......maybe even B+
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      • durito
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-03-06
        • 13173

        #4
        Originally posted by onthewhat
        only problems with their book is the lines are off on public teams
        this is only a problem if you hate money

        Originally posted by onthewhat
        Payouts are best in the business IMO.
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        • durito
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-03-06
          • 13173

          #5
          Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
          Since SBR cant visit them, SBR wont give them B- or above. I agree, CW should be at least a B.......maybe even B+
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          • onthewhat
            Restricted User
            • 05-14-08
            • 15411

            #6
            i think durito must be a super stiff
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            • Iwinyourmoney
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-18-07
              • 18368

              #7
              Durito. CW has treated me with nothing but high class. I have no reason to not give them lower then a B+
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              • durito
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #8
                No 6 month old book deserves to be a B+ regardless of anyone's individual experiences.

                Every year some new book comes along (big juicy odds, lazerwager, etc) players report great things, SBR rates them D- and cautions not to play with unestablished books with poor business models. People say no they've been great to me. And they are great, right up until that day when they disappear off the face of the earth and no one sees a dime again from them.
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                • SBR Lou
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-02-07
                  • 37863

                  #9
                  Why is a rating necessary- Richkas has already personally endorsed them.
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                  • SlickFazzer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-22-08
                    • 20209

                    #10
                    Offices should be seen by SBR before any ratings. Could be operated out of some rich guys basement for all we know.
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                    • durito
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-03-06
                      • 13173

                      #11
                      Originally posted by onthewhat
                      i think durito must be a super stiff
                      yea, that's me.
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82863

                        #12
                        Why does SBR need to visit offices? Do they ask ghosts here for identification?
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                        • onthewhat
                          Restricted User
                          • 05-14-08
                          • 15411

                          #13
                          havent seen one slow pay complaint about CW on here they have better payouts than A books and bodog is currently running 45 day check waiting period.

                          credit wagering cash out weds by 9am its in your debit card account thursday at 6 walk up to atm and get cash
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                          • Kaps
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-09-06
                            • 3272

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CrazyL
                            Why is a rating necessary- Richkas has already personally endorsed them.
                            so what if richkas endorses them ....hes getting payed by them for advertising....that doesnt mean anything

                            there should be no rating until they have been visited
                            here today gone tomorrow

                            they will not last with those bad public lines
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                            • durito
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-03-06
                              • 13173

                              #15
                              some of the A+ books process more payments in 5 minutes than creditwagering will in its entire existence.

                              it's a little easier to fly under the radar paying out $500 out of a basement than hundreds of thousands from antigua.
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                              • SlickFazzer
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-22-08
                                • 20209

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                Why does SBR need to visit offices? Do they ask ghosts here for identification?
                                Dealing with peoples money at CW, not at SBR.
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                                • woodg8
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-21-08
                                  • 1349

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kaps
                                  so what if richkas endorses them ....hes getting payed by them for advertising....that doesnt mean anything

                                  there should be no rating until they have been visited
                                  here today gone tomorrow

                                  they will not last with those bad public lines
                                  Right through your head

                                  If anything, they should get a C rating, as in 'C'unts play there
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                                  • hackattack
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 06-08-08
                                    • 326

                                    #18
                                    Seem legit to me as long as you don't post up.
                                    If I lose...I pay...but until then I am playing with their money.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82863

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SlickFazzer
                                      Dealing with peoples money at CW, not at SBR.
                                      Is having an office the guarantee of a legitimate business? Anyone remember Enron? They had offices but still went belly up.
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                                      • MrX
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-10-06
                                        • 1540

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                        Is having an office the guarantee of a legitimate business?
                                        No, but not having one is a pretty good indication of an illegitimate business.
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                                        • pavyracer
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82863

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MrX
                                          No, but not having one is a pretty good indication of an illegitimate business.
                                          Welcome to the 21st century MrX. People telework these days. It's called high speed internet for a reason.
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                                          • frostno98
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-11-07
                                            • 9769

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by hackattack
                                            Seem legit to me as long as you don't post up.
                                            If I lose...I pay...but until then I am playing with their money.
                                            Exactly! That's why this place doesn't get any complaints. What is their to complain about when you don't have to owe sh!t if you lose. If they delay your payout or don't pay so what, it was free money to begin with, so what did you really lose.
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82863

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by frostno98
                                              Exactly! That's why this place doesn't get any complaints. What is their to complain about when you don't have to owe sh!t if you lose. If they delay your payout or don't pay so what, it was free money to begin with, so what did you really lose.
                                              So what you are saying is that if you win $1000 you wouldn't mind if they don't pay because the money was on credit?

                                              I'd rather have my money at Pinnacle or The Greek so when I win they would be given to me promptly.
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                                              • AgainstAllOdds
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 6053

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                So what you are saying is that if you win $1000 you wouldn't mind if they don't pay because the money was on credit?

                                                I'd rather have my money at Pinnacle or The Greek so when I win they would be given to me promptly.
                                                watch out for pavy...hes all over it!
                                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                                                • SBR_John
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-12-05
                                                  • 16471

                                                  #25
                                                  I wasn't aware they were not rated. They need to be. SBR has enough info on them. Plus after just 6 months they could only have one of three ratings D-, D or D+. SBR should be able to decide which of those three they deserve.
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                                                  • tyler36
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 02-25-08
                                                    • 426

                                                    #26
                                                    cw still owes me and its been a long time... so don't say everyone gets paid I haven't seen shit!!!
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                                                    • Cloak & Dagger
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-15-07
                                                      • 4781

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                      I wasn't aware they were not rated. They need to be. SBR has enough info on them. Plus after just 6 months they could only have one of three ratings D-, D or D+. SBR should be able to decide which of those three they deserve.


                                                      well...they give out a $50 bonus to snitch

                                                      maybe its a $10 bonus to tout on various forums
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                                                      • Cloak & Dagger
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-15-07
                                                        • 4781

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tyler36
                                                        cw still owes me and its been a long time... so don't say everyone gets paid I haven't seen shit!!!
                                                        they slow pay you sir?
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                                                        • Cloak & Dagger
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-15-07
                                                          • 4781

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by onthewhat
                                                          I've spoken to Ben on the phone a few times and they are the real deal guys they assured me they are in it for the long haul.

                                                          When will they be added to the ratings index?

                                                          I'd give them a solid B rating, only problems with their book is the lines are off on public teams and they don't have a lot of wagering options. Payouts are best in the business IMO.
                                                          Ben...Roberto..pimike...chuck

                                                          who knows....what i do know is....odd that you talked to 'them' on the phone when nobody else has their number
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                                                          • SBR_John
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-12-05
                                                            • 16471

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by onthewhat
                                                            havent seen one slow pay complaint about CW on here they have better payouts than A books and bodog is currently running 45 day check waiting period.

                                                            credit wagering cash out weds by 9am its in your debit card account thursday at 6 walk up to atm and get cash
                                                            We already went thru the CW math and everyone in the industry agrees they are losing money. What rating would you give an operation where no one knows who they are, where they are, losing money and new? I'd say it would be either a D or D-. I'd lean toward a D unless there is some payout problems like one poster in this thread has mentioned.
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                                                            • pavyracer
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-12-07
                                                              • 82863

                                                              #31
                                                              I will give them three ratings John. An F a B and an I.
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                                                              • 2PLAYSMAX
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 07-14-08
                                                                • 459

                                                                #32
                                                                Well I got my account up to 1190 for the week.

                                                                I will post if I get my 1000.00 payout on Thursday.
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                                                                • onthewhat
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 05-14-08
                                                                  • 15411

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 2PLAYSMAX
                                                                  Well I got my account up to 1190 for the week.

                                                                  I will post if I get my 1000.00 payout on Thursday.
                                                                  do you already have a debit card? you will get the money sir dont worry
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                                                                  • Richkas
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-03-08
                                                                    • 19396

                                                                    #34
                                                                    a+ book


                                                                    must have out
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                                                                    • purecarnagge
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-05-07
                                                                      • 4843

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Ratings are earned and lets face it guys...most small business go under in less than 5 years.... so why after 6 months do you want to give someone a A rating? Or even a B... stop smoking crack.
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