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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    Brian Cashman Just Stole Some Stuff


    Yanks acquired OF Xavier Nady & lefty relieve Damaso Marte from the Pirates for three minor leaguers, only one of whom is really mentionable according to the story. Yanks might have just stole the East or Wildcard.

    PITTSBURGH (TICKER) —The Pittsburgh Pirates on Friday reportedly have traded outfielder Xavier Nady and lefthander Damaso Marte to the New York Yankees for righthander Ross Ohlendorf and three minor leaguers - outfielder Jose Tabata, righthander George Kontos and lefthander Phil Coke. Nady was removed from Friday’s game against the San Diego Padres in the second inning for undisclosed reasons and was replaced in left field by Jason Michaels.
    The deal reportedly is pending medical reports on all the players involved.
    Nady was one of the most sought-after names on the trade market due to a career year that has him fifth in the National League with a .330 batting average to go along with 13 homers and 57 RBI. He will add a righthanded bat to New York’s lineup, which generally features just three other righthanded hitters.

    Nady’s exit presumably opens the door for top prospect Andrew McCutchen, who is batting .280 with nine homers and 26 stolen bases at Class AAA Indianapolis this season and is considered Pittsburgh’s center fielder of the future.
    Marte, who has been filling in as the Pirates’ closer with Matt Capps on the disabled list, is 4-0 with a 3.47 ERA this season and will slot nicely into a Yankees bullpen that currently is without a lefthander. He has held lefthanded hitters to a .198 average in his career, though that mark is up to .255 this season.
    Marte briefly was property of the Yankees in 2001 but never appeared in a major league game for the franchise before being traded to the Pirates in exchange for Enrique Wilson.
    The jewel of the crop going back to the Pirates is Tabata, who has been one of the Yankees’ top prospects since being signed out of Venezuela in 2005. Baseball America ranked him as the No. 3 prospect in New York’s system entering this season due to his ability to make solid, hard contact and his power potential.
    However, Tabata’s stock has fallen this season due to his struggles both as a hitter and a teammate as a 19-year-old at Class AA. He was pulled from a contest in June and suspended three games in April for disciplinary reasons.
    Tabata has been sidelined since July 1 with an injury.
    Ohlendorf has struggled as a rookie in the bullpen for New York this season, going 1-1 with a 6.53 ERA. A starter in the minors, the righthander could provide immediate help to the Pirates, either in the bullpen or the rotation.
    Kontos has struggled at Class AA Trenton this season, going 3-9 with a 3.77 ERA while issuing 43 walks in 107 1/3 innings.
    Coke was pulled from his start at Trenton on Friday after one inning. He is a combined 9-5 with a 2.76 ERA in 21 games - 20 starts - with Trenton and Class AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre this year.
    Both Coke and Kontos will add depth to Pittsburgh’s system, which is short on pitching prospects.
  • englishmike
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-19-08
    • 5279

    #2
    Theft.
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #3
      i dotn see how they dont win the east with that pen and pitching

      now imagine if arod or jeter could hit worth a damn
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      • EaglesPhan36
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 71662

        #4
        Cashman should get more credit as an exec I think. He's worked under a dictatorships and managed to get the Yanks farm system back up to par while keeping the team up near the top still. Big key is not signing POS free agents in the off-season any more.
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        • pavyracer
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-12-07
          • 82863

          #5
          We are talking about Nady and Marte here. Relax guys. A below average hitter and a mediocre pitcher. People are morons!
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          • AnotherLoan
            SBR MVP
            • 07-21-08
            • 2225

            #6
            Baseball tonight called this trade a "blockbuster".
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            • EaglesPhan36
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-06-06
              • 71662

              #7
              Dude. You should watch more baseball son. Nady gives them legit insurance in the OF if Matsui is out, not to mention a run produce. Marte gives them the lefty they don't have in the pen. STEAL. It ain't a blockbuster, but good, shrewd business.
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              • ryanXL977
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-24-08
                • 20615

                #8
                nady is good
                marte is a solid lefty
                these are not bad players
                they really are not bad, especially nady

                ps. matsui is out for the year
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                • EaglesPhan36
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 71662

                  #9
                  Nady is hitting .330 by the way. I think only Damon has a higher average on the Yanks. He's also on a one year deal, so he could get paid big time if he finishes strong with the Yanks.
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82863

                    #10
                    If these guys were good they wouldn't have been playing for the team with the lowest payroll. Give me a break! Sabathia and Harden were big trades. This trade may be the worst trade I've ever seen in quite some time.
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                    • element1286
                      Restricted User
                      • 02-25-08
                      • 3370

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      We are talking about Nady and Marte here. Relax guys. A below average hitter and a mediocre pitcher. People are morons!
                      Nady is an above average outfielder, and Marte was good enough to be the top lefty when the White Sox won the World Series, and has shown nothing to think he will do poorly.
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                      • ryanXL977
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-24-08
                        • 20615

                        #12
                        nobodoy called this a big trade
                        but its a smart one, and the yanks dont usually make smart ones

                        this is a great trade for them
                        if nady hits they win the east, write that down
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                        • TheLock
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-06-08
                          • 14427

                          #13
                          LOL

                          We won't know who benefited from this trade the most for another few years.
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                          • purecarnagge
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-05-07
                            • 4843

                            #14
                            We all know CC is going to be a Yankee by end off the off-season.
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                            • purecarnagge
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-05-07
                              • 4843

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheLock
                              LOL

                              We won't know who benefited from this trade the most for another few years.
                              Not true its not like the pirates are relevant....ever...
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                              • EaglesPhan36
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-06-06
                                • 71662

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TheLock
                                LOL

                                We won't know who benefited from this trade the most for another few years.
                                Not true. I'm been a Pirates fan for most of my life. THEY NEVER WIN IN TRADES. Even when the deals favor them, THEY LOST. They got Bay in a good swap with SD, but he's flattened out it seems. Nady I think they've had twice ... getting him from SD and then back from NY. The deals look good on paper more often than not, but on the field - the Pirates be cursed matey!
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                                • AC1318
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-09-06
                                  • 6712

                                  #17
                                  I like nady big plus for NY
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                                  • ryanXL977
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-24-08
                                    • 20615

                                    #18
                                    the yanks generally just buy players, so any deal like this is better than most of their deals

                                    see: unit, kevin brown, hideki irabu, pavano

                                    i can go on
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                                    • TheLock
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-06-08
                                      • 14427

                                      #19
                                      Well, I just did some research and Nady is having a better year than I thought.

                                      He is OPS'ing .919

                                      Career OPS is .793

                                      Maybe I was wrong about this trade but I'll stand by my comment about not knowing the full ramifications of this trade for 2 or 3 years.
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #20
                                        there are no ramifications for the rich
                                        ever
                                        name me someone the yanks have dealt (or brought up in the last 8 years) thats panned out

                                        ASIDE from joba

                                        ok, cano is solid, melky is ok. but nothing big

                                        so they may as well deal their farm, it never produces
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                                        • moneyline
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-18-08
                                          • 1748

                                          #21
                                          Oh, I don't know ... the all-star catcher, Navarro, doesn't exactly suck ...
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            he came up with the dodgers didnt he?
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                                            • moneyline
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-18-08
                                              • 1748

                                              #23
                                              And that Soriano kid isn't the worst player in the world ...
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                                              • element1286
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 02-25-08
                                                • 3370

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                there are no ramifications for the rich
                                                ever
                                                name me someone the yanks have dealt (or brought up in the last 8 years) thats panned out

                                                ASIDE from joba

                                                ok, cano is solid, melky is ok. but nothing big

                                                so they may as well deal their farm, it never produces
                                                Very true Ryan.
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                                                • fifawcs
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-14-07
                                                  • 2888

                                                  #25
                                                  I think this is a great deal. Damaso Marte is amazing. Seriously. He may not have the numbers now, but he will definitely be an all star soon. And now the Yankees have improved the 7th best bullpen in the majors. They also have a great hitter in Nady.
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                                                  • moneyline
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-18-08
                                                    • 1748

                                                    #26
                                                    No, he didn't ... we traded him to the Dodgers ... in the Kevin Brown trade ...
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                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                      • 20615

                                                      #27
                                                      ok, so dioner navarro came up with new york, and they already had an 10 time all star catcher, why would they hold navarro?
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                                                      • ryanXL977
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-24-08
                                                        • 20615

                                                        #28
                                                        damaso marte is amazing and willl be an all star soon? dude, you yanks homers are incredible. just incredible. come on dude. he is a solid lefty and they had none. thats all he is, he aint jc romero and he aint brandon fuentes
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                                                        • moneyline
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-18-08
                                                          • 1748

                                                          #29
                                                          Ryan, read what you write ...

                                                          "name me someone the yanks have dealt (or brought up in the last 8 years) thats panned out"

                                                          I was just answering your question. Now, you want to ask follow-up questions when you don't like the answer to the 1st one???
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                                                          • ryanXL977
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-24-08
                                                            • 20615

                                                            #30
                                                            i didnt say i dont like your answer, and you named someone, kudos
                                                            my point should have been this: name me someone worth a damn who has come up in the last 8 years other than joba

                                                            ps. navarro is ok, but i am talking along the lines of jeter, pettite, rivera, posada,

                                                            not a mediocre catcher in a league with no good catchers aside from mauer

                                                            pps. if victor martinez is healthy, navarro doesnt sniff the asg
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                                                            • pavyracer
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-12-07
                                                              • 82863

                                                              #31
                                                              Nady has horrible career numbers against Boston and Tampa Bay. Redsox and Rays are partying hard tonight out of joy.
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                                                              • moneyline
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-18-08
                                                                • 1748

                                                                #32
                                                                Alfonso Soriano

                                                                (he had 8 AB's before the magical 8 year mark you speak of)
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                                                                • ryanXL977
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-24-08
                                                                  • 20615

                                                                  #33
                                                                  soriano was 10 years ago, not thru the yanks minor league system, and they got arod for him
                                                                  i mean who have they dealth who has turned into a bad trade
                                                                  nobody
                                                                  they may take on bad deals but they never deal good players

                                                                  si said last 8 years!
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                                                                  • moneyline
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-18-08
                                                                    • 1748

                                                                    #34
                                                                    .313 BA with a cannon for an arm at 24 years old ...

                                                                    (yes, Navarro is truly a lucky bum)

                                                                    (but at least we got Kevin Brown in the deal)

                                                                    And I wouldn't brag abut getting ARod for Soriano ... getting someone who stops playing baseball when October rolls around is a sure-fire way to stop winning championships, wouldn't you agree?
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                                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                                      • 20615

                                                                      #35
                                                                      but they had posada, what should they have done
                                                                      ok, so your point is they had a good minor leageu player in theri system, i stand corrected, dioner navarro is the one all star of the last 10 years they have brought up
                                                                      my bad
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