the guy federer lost to just made the semis

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  • hoopster42
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    • 02-12-08
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    #1
    the guy federer lost to just made the semis
    giles simon who stunned federer the other day has just made the semis, and he has a great chance to beat the winner of kiefer-blake and make the final, a little bit of redemption for fed
  • woodg8
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    • 06-21-08
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    #2
    How is that redemption for Federer?
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    • hoopster42
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      #3
      at least he lost to a guy who is playing well, not a bum who lost the match right after beating fed, if simon goes on to the final and wins it, it will be even more redemption for fed, in a nutshell: better to lose to a guy who's in good form than a bum, very simple thought process here
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      • woodg8
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        • 06-21-08
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        #4
        Well, to be in this tournament, you can't be a bum, so that thought process has gone right out the window
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        • hoopster42
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          #5
          many bums qualified! check the rankings of some of the guys in the 1st round!
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          • woodg8
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            • 06-21-08
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            #6


            Who's a bum in that list? The only one I can see is Dlouhy, Niemayer, Polansky and perhaps Golubev. The rest are established Tennis players. The Toronto masters is probably the best atp tournament there is after the majors, because of the sheer calibre of player in it.
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            • hoopster42
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              • 02-12-08
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              #7
              fed could have lost to a worst guy than the #22 player in the world, who just happens to be in the semis rite now, if you dont understand my logic, then fukk it, you believe what you believe and i will believe what i do, this simon kid making the semis bodes well for fed right now, i think he will bounce back strong at the olympics and the us open
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              • SBR Lou
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                • 08-02-07
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                #8
                Hoopster I know exactly what you're doing and it doesn't fly with me bud, Federer had NO business losing that game..
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                • daggerkobe
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                  • 03-25-08
                  • 10744

                  #9
                  This is ridiculous. Simon beat two guys ranked much lower than him that he's never lost to. The only thing that may redeem him is if Simon wins the whole thing, which won't happen.
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                  • hoopster42
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                    • 02-12-08
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by crazyl
                    Hoopster I know exactly what you're doing and it doesn't fly with me bud, Federer had NO business losing that game..
                    Crazyl, throw me a bone here dude, doesnt it mean anything, the smallest bit of solace for federer fans, that our guy lost to the #22 player in the world who is playin some pretty gosh darn good tennis rite now?
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                    • RogueJuror
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                      • 07-08-08
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by hoopster42
                      Crazyl, throw me a bone here dude, doesnt it mean anything, the smallest bit of solace for federer fans, that our guy lost to the #22 player in the world who is playin some pretty gosh darn good tennis rite now?
                      to his fans yeah, to him no

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                      • jjgold
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                        • 07-20-05
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                        #12
                        Olympics mean nothing in tennis, every week is the olympics on the tennis tour.
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                        • hoopster42
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Olympics mean nothing in tennis, every week is the olympics on the tennis tour.
                          jj, you dont think the oppty to win a gold medal is motivation to tennis players? i happen to think it means something, its only once every 4 yrs, and provides an oppty to go down in olympic lore, just like in basketball, who woulda thunk it 20 yrs ago, olympic basketball and tennis, its fukkin great!
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                          • hoopster42
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RogueJuror
                            to his fans yeah, to him no
                            to sports bettors, they should take note of who he lost to, a guy who now is facing kiefer and may well get to the final where he will be a big dog unless he plays gasquet or murray, i think the better simon does, the more confident bettors should feel that federer is not through yet, thats all i'm saying, simons value and fed's value are directly proportional right now, this is the way i see it
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                            • hoopster42
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                              #15
                              if fed does not win the us open or australian, i think he's through, hell, if he doesnt make the us open final at least i think he's thru, he's owned that tourney just like wimbledon that last 4 yrs, wimbledon he won 5 straight, us open he's got 4 straight
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                              • woodg8
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                                • 06-21-08
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by hoopster42
                                jj, you dont think the oppty to win a gold medal is motivation to tennis players? i happen to think it means something, its only once every 4 yrs, and provides an oppty to go down in olympic lore, just like in basketball, who woulda thunk it 20 yrs ago, olympic basketball and tennis, its fukkin great!
                                Olympic gold in tennis means **** all. Who won it last time? Without looking at google, bet you couldn't tell me

                                No tennis player cares about it
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                                • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                  • 06-13-08
                                  • 5487

                                  #17
                                  Nothing wrong in losing to someone on a hot streak, but Federer beat himself in that match. Insane number of unforced errors.
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                                  • max_asdf
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                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 1362

                                    #18
                                    i really think the gold medal means more to fed than a slam..... he got how many? 50? how many golds?
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                                    • daggerkobe
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                                      • 03-25-08
                                      • 10744

                                      #19
                                      The sooner people stop making excuses for Roger the sooner they will stop losing money betting on him.
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                                      • max_asdf
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 1362

                                        #20
                                        i dont bet on him

                                        but he is still the best
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                                        • hoopster42
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                                          • 02-12-08
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                          The sooner people stop making excuses for Roger the sooner they will stop losing money betting on him.
                                          sometimes its good just to be a fan of a sport or an athlete, and not worry about the money, i dont bet tennis because i find it tricky, i do bet hoops both nba and college and make my hay there, but as i said, sometimes its good just to be a fan and enjoy a sport for what it is, the pure sports fans i know personally are happier than the bettors i know are, myself included, but when i watch tennis i feel the emotion of the game rooting for my guy, which is nadal or fed in any match they are in

                                          take a step back once in a while and just watch for the pure joy of the game, youll find it very refreshing
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                                          • hoopster42
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                                            • 02-12-08
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                                            #22
                                            i will not bury the great roger federer before its time, lets not shovel dirt on a dude whose body is still warm and his pulse still beating fairly well, not perfectly well, but fairly well
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                                            • daggerkobe
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-25-08
                                              • 10744

                                              #23
                                              You're lucky then. Because everyone I know that have backed him all year thinking he'll turn it around are all broke.
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                                              • max_asdf
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                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 1362

                                                #24
                                                how do you bet him anyways

                                                u get like 1$ back for 100$
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                                                • daggerkobe
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                                                  • 03-25-08
                                                  • 10744

                                                  #25
                                                  You can get plus odds at the start to win the tournament. Tons of people bet him thinking he was a lock for the Aussie and Wimbledon only to go broke.

                                                  Federer is WASHED UP. You don't need to be a bettor to see that. I've been following tennis for decades and I can tell when someone is clearly over the hill. Saw it with Mac, Boris Becker, Lendl, Navratilova, etc. It happens to all of them.
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                                                  • jjgold
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                                                    • 07-20-05
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                                                    #26
                                                    Federer was winnning a lot because no intimidating players were around, he is scared to death of Nadal and his presence has Fed rattled. I think Fed could retire next year.
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                                                    • hoopster42
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                      You can get plus odds at the start to win the tournament. Tons of people bet him thinking he was a lock for the Aussie and Wimbledon only to go broke.

                                                      Federer is WASHED UP. You don't need to be a bettor to see that. I've been following tennis for decades and I can tell when someone is clearly over the hill. Saw it with Mac, Boris Becker, Lendl, Navratilova, etc. It happens to all of them.
                                                      again, when the press and fans said sampras and agassi were each washed up, sampras went on to win 3 more slams and agassi won 5 more, its nonense, really
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                                                      • hoopster42
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        Federer was winnning a lot because no intimidating players were around, he is scared to death of Nadal and his presence has Fed rattled. I think Fed could retire next year.
                                                        retire next year, jj? come on man, thats hogwash
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                                                        • max_asdf
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                                                          • 07-22-08
                                                          • 1362

                                                          #29
                                                          lol
                                                          nadal will retire before federer
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                                                          • max_asdf
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-22-08
                                                            • 1362

                                                            #30
                                                            his knees or legs are done!!!
                                                            no way you can keep up like that!
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                                                            • Stacocakes
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-10-08
                                                              • 7126

                                                              #31
                                                              Fed needs to find a coach and needs to dedicate himself some more.Once he does that he will return to the top of his game and will be able to beat the likes of Nadal and DJO.
                                                              As far as Simon,he plays pussy tennis.It would be the equivalent of a professional man playing a professional girl.The guy would be hitting the hard shot and the girl (Simon) would just be trying to return the ball to the center of the court.All simon does is sit and wait for you to make errors.Boring as **** to watch but if it makes him some money all the power to him.
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                                                              • daggerkobe
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                                                                • 03-25-08
                                                                • 10744

                                                                #32
                                                                Sampras never lost all four Grand Slams in a year during his prime. Something Federer is in serious danger of doing.

                                                                Agassi benefited from playing in a weak period where there was no clear cut #1 during the transition from the Sampras dynasty to the Federer dynasty. He didnt have to deal with two players such as Nadal and Djokovic that have beaten Roger in convincing fashion in more than one match and they aren't even close to their prime.
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