Betway thefts
Betway has continued to close accounts from players that won freeplays. They are stealing the deposits, as well as the bonuses and winnings.
Has anyone received a Betway payout recently?
Has anyone received a Betway payout recently?
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Last one beginning of june, about $600. Most of the problems seem to be since then though.Comment -
Justin,
SBR poster DIF reported he received a payout from Betway back on 6/18/08. Other than HeeeHawwww there are no other recent claims that I can see via the SBR archives.Comment -
They aren't even bothering with the story anymore and appear rated too high at D.
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Why are they still D rate, should be FFFFF+++, we all know that they still the money from players and unwilling to resolve problem.Comment -
I feel F+ is a tad to low because they do pay on occasion. However a D- should be there current grade IMO.Originally posted by sofunComment -
I receive regular payout for 2 days via MoneyBookers previous week ,but my account is old and a didnt use any bonuses or freebets before.
Now i request another ammount i will update if a receive it again.Comment -
Mr.Champi, Were those two payouts in the month of July?Originally posted by ChampiComment -
D- looks strange too me. F even more strange
IMO this sportbook should be at least C+
they always payed me fast and without problems.
How many players is not payed here?
any comments?Comment -
Did you happen to read these reports yet sir?Originally posted by DIF
BetWay continues to confiscate winnings; SBR lowers rating to D
Betway offers free-plays as an incentive for bettors to deposit. After the players have met the wagering requirements and request a payout the sportsbook confiscates winnings and sends back the deposit. A losing player never realizes he never had the chance to win the house's money. The sportsbook cites bonus hunting and taking advantage of the sportsbook's offers without intending to gamble further. Betway attempts to brand this type of play as the "money method."
BetWay: You have been positively identified as a participant of the "money method" scheme and therefore we have locked your account, cancelled all your bets and returned your initial deposit to your eWallet account. We will keep your account locked and will lock any future accounts you register."BetWay (SBR rating D+) confiscates earned free-play winnings
BetWay claims at least five players followed the directions of a third party website on how to utilize bonuses and cashout in the shortest amount of time possible. Although this is not the type of play the sportsbook hopes to gain from the promotion, Betway does not have rules against betting with the intention of earning bonuses quickly and utilizing the sportsbook only for that reason. In email discussion Betway refers to this action as "the money method." SBR has asked Betway to reconsider honoring all wagers and allow SBR to advise on the promotion's terms and conditions. BetWay has been downgraded from C to D+.
BetWay to SBR: In the case of the 5 accounts in question, we remain firm that the evidence is clear that these players came through a site which openly teaches players how to abuse bonuses.
BetWay to user: After analyzing Metododiheiro.com, we have seen that the "money method" promotes a step-by-step guide and workshop for systematic abuse of free bet bonus offers on 50+ Sportsbook sites. Betway were not aware of Metododinheiro.com and the promotion of this scheme until recently.Comment -
At least they paid me everytime (but I havent bonus-hunt them) and whats better .
They pay fast and without any emails or phone calls.
I still like them.
any other problems here?Comment -
well, at least the fact that they give you back your money is a good thing, I'm not sure on the the bonus thing thoughComment -
Originally posted by Justin7
Justin7, is this a joke?
Don´t they want to pay you something?
Could you please also report all thefts from all SBR A or B rated advertising books? That would be great.
Betway has always paid me within 24 hours.Comment -
keep in mind the original post dates back quite a while.Originally posted by moonbeam
there have been other topics about this book, in the past they seem to have had issues with a small group of players, i''m not sure how long ago the last complaint was. i've also been with them a long time, and they always paid me without any problem, also as recently as this month. one of these books i don't let the sbr-rating guide me too much.Comment -
Received 2500 on Oct 21st and 1000 on Nov 4th, both within 24 hours on moneybookers. I've never had a problem with them and I've used freebets. Been using them for 2 years.Comment -
Interesting contrary comments.
So.. do they pay or don't they? That is the question.....Comment -
About 4 months ago they took my deposit of £50 after i opened an account to play poker. The poker was down at the time, so i played a little roulette, lost a little, won it back plus a VERY small amount over and decided to cash out because i only wanted to play poker. The next day i checked the account and I could not log in and the account seem to have disapeared. I sent email after email to them over a 3 day period before they gave a responce that that they closed my account because
"....the logon username is an anagram of a swear word"
I sent email after email to try and get my money back from them over a 2 week period and only got 2 useless replys back.
Gave up with these thieving clowns after that, thank god it was a small amount i put in.Comment -
I received a payout within 24 hours (moneybookers) about 10 days ago, just for $25 or thereabouts.Comment -
Originally posted by moonbeam
Maybe you should just stop posting here.Comment -
yes, maybeComment -
I don't know of any thefts from current A or B rated books (although Casacde was rated highly in years past).Originally posted by moonbeam
Play where you will, but make informed decisions.Comment -
Aces Gold?Comment -
Well I played with around all books around the world since 8 years.
All I write here (ok in broken english) are my personal experiences with the books.
Maybe they are not welcome here . Sorry for this.Comment -
I've had no problem with Betway either, and get occasional bonuses from them.
Not acceptable what they're doing with winning freeplays though. As a result, I won't ever bet anything more than peanuts there.Comment -
Well, I for one appreciate your posts Moonbeam.Well I played with around all books around the world since 8 years.
All I write here (ok in broken english) are my personal experiences with the books.
Maybe they are not welcome here . Sorry for this.
All we have to share are our experiences, I think it is great when you share yours, especially when they are not that of the company line.Comment -
Thank´s alot for your post and for your understanding peep.
I appreciate posts like yours. But I guess I´m out of here.Comment -
How do you call situations like this "company line"? Book steals DEPOSITS on top of winnings, doesn't even CLAIM a legitimate infraction, much less prove one, and you guys advocate a higher rating anyway? Betway isn't even arguing the facts of the cases. WTF?Comment -
"Money method"
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I am not speaking in favor of Betway, just in favor of people sharing their personal experiences with a book (good or bad).How do you call situations like this "company line"? Book steals DEPOSITS on top of winnings, doesn't even CLAIM a legitimate infraction, much less prove one, and you guys advocate a higher rating anyway? Betway isn't even arguing the facts of the cases. WTF?Comment -
I've missed you...Originally posted by duritoComment -
Betway will eat your money. Stay away. They lock my account because I missed to answer a call they made to verify my ****. I deposited $500. I try to contact them several times but no response. I think they may back and leave and open another site with a different name.
take your money and run.Comment -
Betway payouts.
I have been using Betway for about 2 years now and never had a single problem, some really good solid consistent odds, good payouts (medium three figure payouts, for this recreational book, done in 3 days max), good promos - always paid bonuses 100%. Have contacted C/S and email answered in less than 24hrs.
Incidentally, played my qualifier for the Ice Hockey promo advertised yesterday, Freebet already in my account ready to use
P.S. RECENT PAYMENT REPORT: I have received several payouts over the last six months, not one problem.
Their grading is too low in my opinion, should be C- with a view to working up the ladder.
BOOKMAKERS REVIEW:
hxtp://www.bookmakersreview.com/Ratings_History/
hxtp://www.bookmakersreview.com/Reviews/Sportsbook/Betway/
May 17 2009 Betway upgraded to 3- (2.5+)Comment -
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TT Says: AVOID!
OK, I've seen enough of Betway's behaviour now. Note above issued.
You know I'm astutely aware of betting linked environments. Balance confiscations, account closures, possible multiple thefts of deposits (..more ongoing..), "as a result of customers opening multiple accounts". I would have said OK to sign-up bonuses & occasional £10.00 freebets some months back, not now!
Their previous rule seems to have been removed **:
"1.3.4 Should any player be found to be involved in, or should we suspect any player of being involved in, Match Betting or Arbitrage Betting, We shall be entitled, at our sole discretion, to restrict your future play or withhold all funds due to You and/or de-register and exclude You and/or suspend You as a player on any or all of the Websites."
This remains:
htxp://betway.com/help/terms-conditions
"“Match Betting” or “Arbitrage Betting” means any way of betting, with or without offers, such as freebets or other offers, that will give the Customer/s a sure win at no risk."
See this:
"1.3.3 You may only open and hold one account at Betway. Duplicate accounts will be unilaterally closed by us. All bets and bonus bets on such duplicate accounts will be void and all funds deposited by you will be returned to you less a 10% handling fee. In the case of a player registering multiple accounts in such a manner that would indicate clear intent to mislead Betway.com as to the true identity of the player concerned, we shall be entitled, at our sole discretion, to withhold all funds due, including initial deposits."
mconley, did you see this**:
"2.10. Before any withdrawals are processed, your play will be reviewed for any irregular playing patterns. In the interests of fair gaming, equal, zero or low margin bets or hedge betting shall all be considered irregular gaming for bonus play-through requirement purposes. Other examples of irregular game play include but are not limited to, placing single bets equal to or in excess of 30% or more of the value of the bonus credited to their account until such time as the wagering requirements for that bonus have been met, unless that is allowed in the specific term of a campaign. Should it be deemed that irregular game play has occurred, we reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings."
TGT
Originally posted by mconley
The WEBPAGE link I gave is for the Sportsbook T&C's/Rules. However, it has been pointed out that the Sportsbook T&C's/Rules have been mixed with a few Casino T&C's/Rules, e.g. 2.9 & 2.10. However, Canbet has a similar type of term in their Sportsbook T&C's/Rules to Betway's 2.10, as highlighted in my post on this thread. Bearing in mind Betway's past it is best to be aware of this inclusion.Comment -
A rating of D is too harsh. Yes they don't like bonus abuse, but other than that, they always pay, at least that's my experience with them.Comment
