Matchbook/wsex
Tradesports
Pinnacles
Bookmaker
&
The Greek
are as safe as BETFAIR or have things change in these places when i wasn't looking?
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pico
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
04-05-07
27321
#3
pinnacle. 100k+ balance no problem...fast payout even for 50k+ transfers
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#4
Bookmaker
Greek
WSEX
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Patrick McIrish
SBR MVP
09-15-05
2864
#5
Same 4 today as it was 5 years ago....
CRIS
WSEX
Greek
Pinnacle
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SBR_John
SBR Posting Legend
07-12-05
16471
#6
Just look for the "A+" .
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Thremp
SBR MVP
07-23-07
2067
#7
Originally posted by SBR_John
Just look for the "A+" .
Yeah, since if we move down a level we find scam books.
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topgame85
SBR Posting Legend
03-30-08
12325
#8
I think the safest are the exchanges, cant lose money! Oly and bookmaker are great as far as safe goes
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#9
Betfair
Pinnacle
I sure hope it's pinnacle.
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battered balls
SBR Rookie
03-26-08
10
#10
Pinnacle
and God I hope that NEVER changes.
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englishmike
SBR Hall of Famer
06-19-08
5279
#11
Leaving limits aside, bet365, stan james, paddy power
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betplom
SBR Posting Legend
09-20-06
13444
#12
Originally posted by englishmike
Leaving limits aside, bet365, stan james, paddy power
Got to agree with these and Betfair.
"Offshore" books like Greek/WSEX etc are solid books, but if something went terribly wrong in Jamaica, I doubt you could count on the government there to help at all.
Aussie books are as solid as a book can be.
Canbet and Centrebet are safer than Greek, Pinny CRIS and the rest of the offshore books. I trust the Australian government and the regulations they have in place far more than say Jamaica or Antigua.
I'm not too worried though, I'm sure my balance at the Greek is safe.
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robmpink
SBR Posting Legend
01-09-07
13205
#13
Fat Jimmy from Canarsie. He has been like a rock for 25 years.
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englishmike
SBR Hall of Famer
06-19-08
5279
#14
Totally agree, the UK and Aussie regulation is second-to-none and the payout speed is astounding sometimes, I've had many payments back to my UK bank acount that have taken less than 24 hours.
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daggerkobe
SBR Posting Legend
03-25-08
10744
#15
None. My world has been shaken when even the reliable Bodog can't pay after 2 months.
Just a matter of time before I return to Vegas.
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Brady2Moss
SBR MVP
07-02-08
1500
#16
how can pinny not be number one?
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69882000
Restricted User
03-05-08
935
#17
Matchbook. Bar none. For me at least.
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69882000
Restricted User
03-05-08
935
#18
Originally posted by Brady2Moss
how can pinny not be number one?
My guess is they don't cater to the american market anymore.
So wether they are safe or not. It doesn't apply to us anymore.
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Brady2Moss
SBR MVP
07-02-08
1500
#19
If pinny pulled from the US there must be a good reason for it...
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englishmike
SBR Hall of Famer
06-19-08
5279
#20
Pinny pulled from the US because they envisage a time when internet gambling will be legal and they don't want to risk anything that could hurt their part in that given the US governments draconian and bully-boy tactics.
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#21
Originally posted by englishmike
Pinny pulled from the US because they envisage a time when internet gambling will be legal and they don't want to risk anything that could hurt their part in that given the US governments draconian and bully-boy tactics.
They pulled from the US because their owners like to be able to come home and not go to jail.
They also did because they could -- ie they were sharp enough and with a solid enough business model to grow without the US (not that they aren't getting a lot of action from US based professionals, because they clearly are).
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englishmike
SBR Hall of Famer
06-19-08
5279
#22
Originally posted by durito
They pulled from the US because their owners like to be able to come home and not go to jail.
They also did because they could -- ie they were sharp enough and with a solid enough business model to grow without the US (not that they aren't getting a lot of action from US based professionals, because they clearly are).
I agree. When I said draconian I meant things like freedom of movement.
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BuddyBear
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-05
7233
#23
Originally posted by englishmike
Pinny pulled from the US because they envisage a time when internet gambling will be legal and they don't want to risk anything that could hurt their part in that given the US governments draconian and bully-boy tactics.
And plus the fact that there are 5.7 billion people who live outside the U.S.....
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englishmike
SBR Hall of Famer
06-19-08
5279
#24
Originally posted by BuddyBear
And plus the fact that there are 5.7 billion people who live outside the U.S.....
Thats a fair point.
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frostno98
SBR Hall of Famer
09-11-07
9769
#25
Any 1st fidelity book or The Greek family
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daggerkobe
SBR Posting Legend
03-25-08
10744
#26
US govt must've gave Pinny an offer they couldn't refuse considering they lost 60% of their customers when they pulled out.
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Brady2Moss
SBR MVP
07-02-08
1500
#27
Originally posted by BuddyBear
And plus the fact that there are 5.7 billion people who live outside the U.S.....
And how many of the 300 million Americans even know this?
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Brady2Moss
SBR MVP
07-02-08
1500
#28
Im canadian, btw
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greek
SBR MVP
10-01-07
1680
#29
so what ,your connected so all mexicans and canadians are soon to be americans lo lol lol ---------------hi north american--------nafta made it possible
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Bostongambler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-01-08
35581
#30
Matchbook
Pinn.
Oly.
Cris
SOS
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flyingillini
SBR Aristocracy
12-06-06
41219
#31
Heritage
המוסד
המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים
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big joe 1212
SBR Posting Legend
06-01-08
19380
#32
Originally posted by englishmike
Pinny pulled from the US because they envisage a time when internet gambling will be legal and they don't want to risk anything that could hurt their part in that given the US governments draconian and bully-boy tactics.
If it becomes legal in the US, then people here will play with the new American books. Would be safer. I dont think they will make it legal and not open them in Nevada, for internet wagering.
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WileOut
SBR MVP
02-04-07
3844
#33
Originally posted by BuddyBear
And plus the fact that there are 5.7 billion people who live outside the U.S.....
This doesnt matter though. Most of those 5.7 billion people don't have access to the internet and/or are not internet gamblers thus are not included in the market count.
The USA alone represents 50% of the internet gambling market even despite the governments efforts to make it seem illegal. That is why internet gambling will always be available to americans. We are half the worldwide market and thats too big a slice of the pie to pass up.
Now if more of the 5.7 billion other people start gambling on the internet then the American percentage will be reduced and we can start worrying then. But I think it will be legal here in the next 5 years anyway
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#34
Originally posted by WileOut
This doesnt matter though. Most of those 5.7 billion people don't have access to the internet
have you ever left the united states?
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WileOut
SBR MVP
02-04-07
3844
#35
Yes I have durito and places like Africa, the middle east, India, and China either dont have the standard of living required to have internet access or their governments block internet gambling sites.