NY Mets Vs. Cinn Reds - Does the streak continue...

EagesBets · 07-17-08, 10:19 AM

i do like the over, in this ball park, but I think I am gonna wait for a week after the break, to see who is making a run and who is falling apart... After the allstar weekend I don't have any reads on these teams, anything can happen.

LT Profits · 07-17-08, 10:29 AM

I say NO, and I got the Reds +137 early this morning.

First let's put the Mets 9-game winning streak in perspective. OK, it started with three wins in Philadelphia, but the Phillies weren't hitting a lick at that time. Then, the Mets came home and swept six games from a Giants team that could be the worst in the league and from a Rockies club that has not hit well on the road all year. Yes, the Mets have had GREAT pitching stats during the streak, but you have to consdier that the weak offenses they faced contributed to those stats too.

Now Santana is obviously great, but he did allow 10 hits in six innings the first time he faced the Reds this year, and that was at Shea, which is more of a pitcher's park. He is now facing them in a bandbox on what should be a hot night with the ball carrying well. On the flip side, Cueto has pitched much better than his 4+ ERA would suggest for Cincy.

pavyracer · 07-17-08, 10:42 AM

Mets should win tonight. There is a big gap in pitching talent. Santana will dominate Cueto in every aspect of the game. This will not be even close.

EagesBets · 07-17-08, 10:43 AM

Cueto is hard to read, hes raw, but shows flashes of brilliance at times. Santana on the other hand, proven stud, also is prone to giving up the long ball. The occasional solo shot doesn't hurt him, But if he gets in trouble and gives one up, Thats where the santana backers are screwed. i.e. king felix grand slam... So i'll prob stay away, take the over or reds, just because of the decent value.

SBR Lou · 07-17-08, 10:51 AM

I think they'll get one more W under their belts.

ryanXL977 · 07-17-08, 01:08 PM

eventually mets are gonna lose, and lets be honest, they seem to lose most of johans starts. so why not take cincy, at home, as a big ole dog

treece · 07-17-08, 01:36 PM

If the price keeps dropping on Santana I'll take him. It's Johan Fvcking Santana for christs sake and he's only -134 at matchbook. Also its always better to bet with the streak and not against it. Rockies ring a bell?

LT Profits · 07-17-08, 01:40 PM

Yeah I am in position to scalp the bet right now. but I won't since I am content with holding a great price on a play I like.

Clueless_Norway · 07-17-08, 01:52 PM

I take a shot at cincy in this one cause every time I bet on a game Santana pitches in, the Mets loose (usualy im betting against him

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Also the Mets could go cold now after the break.. Everything was on auto pilot before the break, will it be after??? Remember Hamilton in the HR Derby, thats just a single player but why can't that happend with a whole team??
Think the cincy +134 is worth a shot...

sickness · 07-17-08, 01:54 PM

i never go against mets.

cos if i do, i'll lose, lol.

Wilforth · 07-17-08, 02:14 PM

I think the Reds RL is the best thing here.

Mr Handicapable · 07-17-08, 02:27 PM

I watch the Reds every day and I wouldn't touch them right now w/Hairston and Burton questionable for this week? The Reds are more than 10 games over .500 w/Hairy batting leadoff and Burton has been untouchable lately in the setup role! Both may have to go on the DL and will be touch-n-go for this series? Cueto has been pitching pretty well and the Reds went 5-2 on their last homestand so I wouldn't be excited about the Mets either?

CUcapper82 · 07-17-08, 03:22 PM

Quite a few Mets haters out there right now. How a team can rip off 9 straight and people still think this rookie is going to shut this lineup down after what they did to him the first time, and may I remind people that was when the Mets couldn't hit the ball out of their own shadow. What do you think they are going to do to him this time?

A couple people on here are talking about how Cueto is been pitching much better. Against who? This guy is 2-4 in his last 6, only two wins coming against teams that are bad, the struggling Indians and the Nationals. This kid is going to give up runs and I will take Santana against this kid any day. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Mets win this one just like the last Sunday night baseball game.

Once again Cueto vs Mets: 11.57 ERA, 2 homeruns, 6 runs, 8 hits in just under 5 innings (Loss 8-3)

Reds at +137 isn't value because this line should be close to -200

Santana hasn't seen alot of run support but last time he pitched against the Reds Mets hung 12 on them. Good Luck Reds supporters. I am not saying Reds can't win or that Santana is a for sure win but I see no reason to even think about the Reds in this one the way they are playing against one of the best pitchers of the last 10 years. Mets didn't just win 9 games in a row playing poorly and in those games their pitching was much better, their weakness. Shouldn't be a problem tonight with Santana.

LT Profits · 07-17-08, 03:50 PM

Win or lose, Reds +137 IS value if they close at +125.

CUcapper82 · 07-17-08, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Win or lose, Reds +137 IS value if they close at +125.

obviously, i was talking about when this game opened. I didn't think they got the right line to begin with.

Cloak & Dagger · 07-17-08, 04:00 PM

value seems to sway people onto losers

Clueless_Norway · 07-17-08, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by CUcapper82

Quite a few Mets haters out there right now. How a team can rip off 9 straight and people still think this rookie is going to shut this lineup down after what they did to him the first time, and may I remind people that was when the Mets couldn't hit the ball out of their own shadow. What do you think they are going to do to him this time?

A couple people on here are talking about how Cueto is been pitching much better. Against who? This guy is 2-4 in his last 6, only two wins coming against teams that are bad, the struggling Indians and the Nationals. This kid is going to give up runs and I will take Santana against this kid any day. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Mets win this one just like the last Sunday night baseball game.

Once again Cueto vs Mets: 11.57 ERA, 2 homeruns, 6 runs, 8 hits in just under 5 innings (Loss 8-3)

Reds at +137 isn't value because this line should be close to -200

Santana hasn't seen alot of run support but last time he pitched against the Reds Mets hung 12 on them. Good Luck Reds supporters. I am not saying Reds can't win or that Santana is a for sure win but I see no reason to even think about the Reds in this one the way they are playing against one of the best pitchers of the last 10 years. Mets didn't just win 9 games in a row playing poorly and in those games their pitching was much better, their weakness. Shouldn't be a problem tonight with Santana.

I know the Mets got 9 straight, I know that Santana is a great pitcher.... I just want to take a shoot at that line as the Mets was on fire before the all-star break and that noone there didn't like the break, so the can get cold as easy that the streak continue. Im not leaning on any team in this one, but I just have a feeling on the Reds and like the line...

Quite a few Mets haters out there right now.

Im a Phillies fan and don't like the Mets, but this is gambling.. I never bring the fan part into that... Last game before the all-star break I was all in on the Mets and I almost never bet on the Phillies cause that team is WAY to unpredictable...
GL to every one who bet on this game, whatever team it is. My bet is that one of the teams win 3-1 or 3-2...

jjgold · 07-17-08, 05:01 PM

-144 too high against a very good Reds pitcher

Pass

Marigold HD · 07-17-08, 05:07 PM

Santana is a second half pitcher.

I do like the reds though.

BuddyBear · 07-17-08, 05:13 PM

I lean with LT here, I like CINC and the price is climbing back up at Betjm...

AmazingAmanda · 07-17-08, 05:17 PM

Mets win this one

CUcapper82 · 07-17-08, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

-144 too high against a very good Reds pitcher

Pass

Very good pitcher? At what point did he become a pitcher to fear? When he faces good lineups he gets hit, hence the almost 5 ERA. Don't know many very good pitchers sporting an ERA that high. Santana would be classified in the category of very good pitcher.

BossE · 07-17-08, 05:36 PM

Im with LT on this one, GO Reds... Mets have made there winning streak money its now time to loose some of it

BossE · 07-17-08, 05:37 PM

also Amandas Hot

sickness · 07-17-08, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by BossE

also Amandas Hot

hottest out of all the sbr girls, lol

gummo · 07-17-08, 06:16 PM

Wow...Cueto looking awesome so far. He struck out the side on 11 pitches.

gummo · 07-17-08, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by BossE

also Amandas Hot

Is that really her in her avatar?

sickness · 07-17-08, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by gummo

Is that really her in her avatar?

is that you in your avatar?

BossE · 07-17-08, 06:29 PM

man to funny

gummo · 07-17-08, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by sickness

is that you in your avatar?

42nd person from the right in the first row.

pavyracer · 07-17-08, 06:31 PM

No poster posts himself in the avatar.

sickness · 07-17-08, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by gummo

42nd person from the right in the first row.

ryanXL977 · 07-17-08, 06:41 PM

of course thats now really her. in fact, i would bet a lot of dough that amazing amanda is a dude, maybe its his girl, but that isnt the person who is posting on here. wake up people.

Marigold HD · 07-17-08, 07:39 PM

Wow, I changed the channel at 0-0,.....and it's now 5-2 in a matter of no time........Good thing I didn't touch total.