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  • funnyman
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-06-10
    • 606

    #36
    Don't know about the side but the over looks mighty good.
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    • gshock1
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-04-09
      • 5367

      #37
      Originally posted by Brock Landers
      countless people got burned by ND in week one, its amazing how many want to jump back into the fire.

      Its Michigan or nothing
      You got burned by Oregon last week, so does that mean you will never take them again. It's either ND or no play. The line says it all Brock. Stupid squares think they have a .5 cushion to cover a FG. Notre Dame wins this by 10.
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      • No coincidences
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #38
        Originally posted by gshock1
        You got burned by Oregon last week, so does that mean you will never take them again. It's either ND or no play. The line says it all Brock. Stupid squares think they have a .5 cushion to cover a FG. Notre Dame wins this by 10.
        This.
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        • suicidekings
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-23-09
          • 9962

          #39
          I would place a fair line for this game as Notre Dame -7 @ Michigan, but situationally I like Michigan to win it outright. However they're only getting +3.5, so IMO, Michigan is not worth a play at this line/price. Poor value.
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          • SATERSTYLE
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-07-11
            • 691

            #40
            I got Michigan at +4.5 a couple of days ago. I don't think either team is clearly better than the other, but this one will be in Ann Arbor and I am hopeful that mich will look better than they did last week.
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            • No coincidences
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-18-10
              • 76300

              #41
              Originally posted by suicidekings
              I would place a fair line for this game as Notre Dame -7 @ Michigan, but situationally I like Michigan to win it outright. However they're only getting +3.5, so IMO, Michigan is not worth a play at this line/price. Poor value.
              You think ND should be favored by a touchdown here? Really?

              I think the line's pretty fair given what happened last week.
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              • suicidekings
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 03-23-09
                • 9962

                #42
                Originally posted by No coincidences
                You think ND should be favored by a touchdown here? Really?

                I think the line's pretty fair given what happened last week.
                I care a lot less about what happened last week than I do the specific matchup considerations for this game. Michigan does not have a strong enough secondary to shut down ND's passing game, and the Irish won't have 4 fumbles and throw 3 interceptions again. If Michigan plays a strong defensive game, they will win, but if Notre Dame's passing game gets rolling, the Wolverines will not be able to match them.
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                • TWEETS
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-22-08
                  • 2114

                  #43
                  I'm a Mizzou fan and I'm laying off, our Defense is real good but the offensive play calling has not been very good. I think they are having a hard time adjusting to Franklin's style that he is comfortable running. This one could go either way.
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                  • NYSportsGuy210
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-07-09
                    • 11347

                    #44
                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                    Michigan is not "much better" than Notre Dame.

                    Michigan is A LOT BETTER than Notre Dame.
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                    • jmush
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-25-10
                      • 556

                      #45
                      cant deny the fact that nd gave that game away.... they held usf to how many field goals when given a short field?? usf is not a terrible team either
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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #46
                        Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                        Michigan is A LOT BETTER than Notre Dame.
                        You're basing this on what, exactly?
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #47
                          Originally posted by suicidekings
                          I care a lot less about what happened last week than I do the specific matchup considerations for this game. Michigan does not have a strong enough secondary to shut down ND's passing game, and the Irish won't have 4 fumbles and throw 3 interceptions again. If Michigan plays a strong defensive game, they will win, but if Notre Dame's passing game gets rolling, the Wolverines will not be able to match them.
                          Under what circumstances could this possibly happen?

                          Michigan doesn't have the personnel to contend with an offense like Notre Dame's yet. Period.

                          It's not an effort issue -- it's a talent deficiency.
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                          • Small Timer
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 01-12-11
                            • 389

                            #48
                            Save yourself the headache and stay off the Mich ND game, also make some money and take ASU - 7.5 at Pinny.
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                            • suicidekings
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-23-09
                              • 9962

                              #49
                              Originally posted by No coincidences

                              Under what circumstances could this possibly happen?

                              Michigan doesn't have the personnel to contend with an offense like Notre Dame's yet. Period.

                              It's not an effort issue -- it's a talent deficiency.
                              I agree that it's unlikely that the Michigan D will contain Notre Dame's offense. It would depend on another breakdown by ND's offense, which I would say is highly unlikely. Following that, I expect ND drives to go all the way into the endzone, largely uncontested. The +3.5 is a bad bet, and if forced to choose a side, I would take the Irish -3.5 but there are probably 10 games that I like better than this one in Week 2. I didn't realize the public betting % was so one sided...
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                              • morganwags
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 09-27-10
                                • 93

                                #50
                                i wouldn't pick either one
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                                • INVEGA MAN
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                                  • 01-30-08
                                  • 6785

                                  #51
                                  I hate looking at the last games college teams played but we have to. i wouldnt bet missouri with your money. they looked so bad. that offense need a lot of help. then i have to take n.d. because they wont have the turnovers but they r playing in Michigan
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                                  • thetrinity
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-25-11
                                    • 22444

                                    #52
                                    asu is a darkhorse this season. oddmakers obviously dont think very highly of missouri based on the first 2 lines.

                                    people keep saying how nd lines are always inflated which they are against south florida, tulsa, syracuse, navy, teams like that, but this is against michigan, the winningest program ever, a team whos lines also get inflated.
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                                    • dfberger23
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-08-10
                                      • 5069

                                      #53
                                      Mizzou is now +9.5, I don't understand this, ASU is not that good, gotta roll with Mizzou.
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                                      • Greyraptor
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-02-11
                                        • 610

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                        If Brock is on Michigan, what the hell does that tell you guys?
                                        Couldn't have said it better myself.
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                                        • TexansFan
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-06-06
                                          • 3367

                                          #55
                                          ND covers.
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                                          • BigdaddyQH
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-13-09
                                            • 19531

                                            #56
                                            Missouri is in deep trouble here. They lost 5 starters due to injury. ASU loves this spot. 7-1 as non-con home favorites of 28 or under, and 7-1 after scoring 35+ points. Wagering on Mizzou is suicidal.

                                            As far as Notre Dame-Michigan goes, there is no question that Notre Dame has more talent. The question is how Kelly reacts to his team's mistake-filled game last week. Kelly is a hot head. He can go off at any time. It appears that he put way too much pressure on his kids to win last week, ranting and raving like a madman on the sidelines. Anyone who thinks that Michigan is a good team really does not know much about football. They are an average 7-5 type team. The Irish are better, but their head coach has a problem. I'm middled out in this game and that is just fine with me.
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                                            • mtneer1212
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-22-08
                                              • 4994

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Tech N9ne
                                              Michigan will win more games than notre dame this year. I guess you didn't watch either game saturday.
                                              You must have been watching a different Michigan than me...... I thought Michigan was helpless on defense, getting gashed at Western Michigan's will. Turnovers and penalties were the only difference.

                                              Team Stat Comparison


                                              <table class="mod-data"><thead><tr class="team-color-strip"><th style="text-align:left;">
                                              </th><th style="border-bottom-color: #825229; text-align: left; line-height: 25px;" nowrap="nowrap">W Michigan</th><th style="border-bottom-color: #001531; text-align: left; line-height: 25px;" nowrap="nowrap">Michigan</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">1st Downs</td><td>17</td><td>17</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">3rd down efficiency
                                              </td><td>6-11</td><td>3-6</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">4th down efficiency
                                              </td><td>1-1</td><td>1-1</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Total Yards</td><td>279</td><td>288</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Passing</td><td>183</td><td>98</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Comp-Att
                                              </td><td>22-31</td><td>9-13</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Yards per pass
                                              </td><td>5.9</td><td>7.5</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Rushing</td><td>96</td><td>190</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Rushing Attempts
                                              </td><td>25</td><td>26</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Yards per rush
                                              </td><td>3.8</td><td>7.3</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Penalties</td><td>8-50</td><td>1-5</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Turnovers</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Fumbles lost
                                              </td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Interceptions thrown
                                              </td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Possession</td><td>25:18</td><td>18:15</td></tr></tbody></table>
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                                              • TexansFan
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-06-06
                                                • 3367

                                                #58
                                                ND is the better team. Michigan won the same way ND got beat, by scoring on turnovers. Michigan was equal to in 1st downs to W. Michigan, and had 8 more yards of total offense.

                                                I think ND wins by at least 10 in this game.
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                                                • zuluhead1``1
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-07-10
                                                  • 733

                                                  #59
                                                  I think Mizzou is a trap. A top 25 team a dog vs a non-ranked opponent seems like it is just begging for the opponents money. Mizzou is not the team they were last year. On the other hand, it seems like we are always hearin it is ASU's year, which it never is. I think the two biggest variables in this game will be on Mizzou. Can their defense defend this ASU offense and cause turn overs. They will have to, in order for Mizzou to keep up, because their offense can't keep up with ASU's. The other question mark is Mizzou's O line. They seem to be young and plagued with injuries. Can the keep the QB up long enough to make good passes? He is not super accurate in medium and long passes and can definitely be forced into making bad decisions.



                                                  My play is ASU -8.
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                                                  • Rookie-Capper
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-21-09
                                                    • 4567

                                                    #60
                                                    Nd wins
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                                                    • neverstoppers23
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                      • 6302

                                                      #61
                                                      I couldn't disagree with you more on Mizzou. ASU offense will, well blow them out I think is the best way of putting it.
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                                                      • spankie
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-10-11
                                                        • 9992

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by mtneer1212
                                                        You must have been watching a different Michigan than me...... I thought Michigan was helpless on defense, getting gashed at Western Michigan's will. Turnovers and penalties were the only difference.

                                                        Team Stat Comparison


                                                        <table class="mod-data"><thead><tr class="team-color-strip"><th style="text-align:left;">
                                                        </th><th style="border-bottom-color: #825229; text-align: left; line-height: 25px;" nowrap="nowrap">W Michigan</th><th style="border-bottom-color: #001531; text-align: left; line-height: 25px;" nowrap="nowrap">Michigan</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">1st Downs</td><td>17</td><td>17</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">3rd down efficiency
                                                        </td><td>6-11</td><td>3-6</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">4th down efficiency
                                                        </td><td>1-1</td><td>1-1</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Total Yards</td><td>279</td><td>288</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Passing</td><td>183</td><td>98</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Comp-Att
                                                        </td><td>22-31</td><td>9-13</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Yards per pass
                                                        </td><td>5.9</td><td>7.5</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Rushing</td><td>96</td><td>190</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Rushing Attempts
                                                        </td><td>25</td><td>26</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Yards per rush
                                                        </td><td>3.8</td><td>7.3</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Penalties</td><td>8-50</td><td>1-5</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Turnovers</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Fumbles lost
                                                        </td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="even" align="right"><td style="text-align:left;">Interceptions thrown
                                                        </td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="odd" align="right"><td class="bi" style="text-align:left;">Possession</td><td>25:18</td><td>18:15</td></tr></tbody></table>
                                                        Nice stats.

                                                        *edit* lolll they formatted themselves in quote.
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                                                        • neverstoppers23
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-26-09
                                                          • 6302

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by zuluhead1``1
                                                          I think Mizzou is a trap. A top 25 team a dog vs a non-ranked opponent seems like it is just begging for the opponents money. Mizzou is not the team they were last year. On the other hand, it seems like we are always hearin it is ASU's year, which it never is. I think the two biggest variables in this game will be on Mizzou. Can their defense defend this ASU offense and cause turn overs. They will have to, in order for Mizzou to keep up, because their offense can't keep up with ASU's. The other question mark is Mizzou's O line. They seem to be young and plagued with injuries. Can the keep the QB up long enough to make good passes? He is not super accurate in medium and long passes and can definitely be forced into making bad decisions.



                                                          My play is ASU -8.

                                                          Yeah MIzzous offense looked terrible last week, I don't understand their ranking. I mean they played Miami of Ohio. Seriously, Miami of Ohio.

                                                          They should of scored more then 17. If their offense was half way decent.

                                                          ASU played UC Davis, so their offense should of looked great as it did.

                                                          I might just make this into a teaser play to be on the safe side, because obviously a lot of stuff can happen, we still do not know a lot about either team. Mizzou could of played down to thier opp. so they don't show ASU any complex packages, who knows.
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                                                          • FindTheLock
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-27-10
                                                            • 7194

                                                            #64
                                                            when in doubt take the points. Especially when the dog is getting 10 of them. ASU is not a point covering machine, but then again this line is so fishy that the best thing to do is not even bet on it at all.
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                                                            • scarp
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 01-12-10
                                                              • 697

                                                              #65
                                                              Mizzou cant score 20 points in a game
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                                                              • dice
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-28-09
                                                                • 669

                                                                #66
                                                                Take Michigan. Bump on the Mizzou-ASU game.
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                                                                • blg123
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 09-18-08
                                                                  • 182

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I really truely wonder if all your squares actually watch these f..kin games... Missouri BLEW last week there QB sucked couldnt pass the ball for s***t vs Miami OH at HOME never the less!!! Now on the road vs ASU a team that will be VASTLY improved... I am not saying Miss can't improve after there 1st game but the line looks right.

                                                                  ND and Michigan linesmakers aren't stupid ND moved the ball at WILL last week and SF defense is better then Michigan's u can make bank on that!
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                                                                  • dfberger23
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                                    • 5069

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Missouri.

                                                                    Taking Michigan +145 today.
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                                                                    • paco
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-07-09
                                                                      • 62873

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Big HOuse gonna be rocking and fucken rolling! People are already tailgating for a 8pm game
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