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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    I thought the democrats were going to save online gambling
    and yet it's only gotten worse since they've got in office.

    I tried to tell everyone but you didn't listen way back when did you.
  • King Mayan
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-22-10
    • 21326

    #2
    Damn, another far righty.

    We have enough of these BBD.
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    • Tech N9ne
      Restricted User
      • 06-24-11
      • 5366

      #3
      you can thank your fellow Republicans for the UIGEA law
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      • bigboydan
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-10-05
        • 55420

        #4
        Originally posted by Tech N9ne
        you can thank your fellow Republicans for the UIGEA law
        But everyone said the Dems would fix the problem though sir.
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        • soli
          SBR MVP
          • 09-10-06
          • 2503

          #5
          Don't they have a political forum this Dem vs GOP bullshyt?
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          • Ian
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-09-09
            • 6077

            #6
            Originally posted by bigboydan
            But everyone said the Dems would fix the problem though sir.
            No, nobody said this. I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you are so partisan that you actually believe your own BS, but you're making a straw man argument here.

            On the issue of gambling national Democrats are far preferable to national Republicans because:

            -banning all betting on college sports is a part of the official Republican platform

            -banning all internet gambling is a part of the official Republican platform

            -Nevada books can't hang lines on the Olympics as a result of national Republican efforts

            -Congressional Republicans are overwhelmingly against legalizing & regulating online poker, whereas the Democrats are split on the issue with more in favor than opposed

            -Congressional Democrats authored and passed the bill that delayed the implementation of the UIGEA from 1/19/09 until 6/1/10 despite large scale Republican opposition.

            It has never been proposed that Democratic control of government would result in a panacea for gambling laws. What neutral observers have been saying for years is that the Democrats aren't nearly as bad on the issue as Republicans.
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            • crustyme
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-29-10
              • 16896

              #7
              when did obama ever promise to overturn uigea?



              this is like blaming clinton for somalia when it was bush sr who shipped 50,000 troops there without a plan or exit strategy.



              plus it's a democrat, barney frank, who has been trying to overturn it without success due to gop opposition.
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              • ProfaneReality
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 04-14-09
                • 7607

                #8
                Originally posted by bigboydan
                But everyone said the Dems would fix the problem though sir.
                Sure if they want to repeal the safe ports act which your scumbag party slipped the UIGEA into... what would you right wing nut jobs say then if they did that ?

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                • Balco10
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-11-10
                  • 5478

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crustyme
                  when did obama ever promise to overturn uigea?



                  this is like blaming clinton for somalia when it was bush sr who shipped 50,000 troops there without a plan or exit strategy.



                  plus it's a democrat, barney frank, who has been trying to overturn it without success due to gop opposition.
                  Liberal at heart here...............
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                  • Balco10
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-11-10
                    • 5478

                    #10
                    Originally posted by King Mayan
                    Damn, another far righty.

                    We have enough of these BBD.
                    Easy gay males..obama is only out to destroy American!
                    Go ahead and vote for him...how does the country look now?
                    Only going to get worst!
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                    • Ethan
                      Restricted User
                      • 02-14-11
                      • 375

                      #11
                      Make a fortune by taking foreigners money to fund the deficits
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                      • Ethan
                        Restricted User
                        • 02-14-11
                        • 375

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Balco10
                        Easy gay males..obama is only out to destroy American!
                        Go ahead and vote for him...how does the country look now?
                        Only going to get worst!
                        he won't. he only doesn't know how to fix it
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                        • Cap dat 4ss
                          Restricted User
                          • 10-11-10
                          • 3665

                          #13
                          BBD, whats your posting quota? Also, Obama has been a failure. But I'm glad I voted for him over McCain/Palin. It looks like I will vote for him again. However, I will give Perry a hard look. You have to vote for the best candidate unfortunately that does not imply that their will be a good candidate. We'll see but I'm pessimistic again
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                          • jarvol
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-13-10
                            • 6074

                            #14
                            Obama and the Democrats who had free reign for 2 years didn't even consider overturning UIGEA or not extending the Patriot Act or not continuing fighting wars of aggression in 3rd world countries who never attacked nor threatened America. It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference. If you want actual change and your freedoms and liberties back then you had better start voting for Ron Paul and the Libertarians scattered across the ballots. Otherwise blue sheep and red sheep will continue to idiotically debate their differences when the only real difference is a facade pulled out of a box of Crayolas.
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                            • MartinBlank
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-20-08
                              • 8382

                              #15
                              This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. This has to do with well funded lobbyists.

                              Jon Kyl--the GOP senator from Arizona vowed to enforce UIGEA to his last breath in office-----he even held up routine judicial appointments until the WH promised him more diligence on UIGEA enforcement. Then, suddenly Gary Loveman, CEO of Ceaser's Entertainment (Who just so happen to own the rights to the WSOP-----went public with his prediction/support for internet poker being legal, regulated and of course, taxed.

                              Suddenly Kyl dropped his fierce opposition to anything to do with UIGEA. Why? Because Loveman loves him some GOP politicians. He throws money at them like JJ throws cash at cheap hookers. Suddenly, poker is fast tracked to be legalized by the spring.

                              The Dems had a chance----Barney Frank wanted to crush UIGEA but he never demonstrated the political toughness to get it through. He folded. I am certain, if someone had ponied up, UIGEA would be dead by now.
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                              • King Mayan
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-22-10
                                • 21326

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Balco10
                                Easy gay males..obama is only out to destroy American!
                                Go ahead and vote for him...how does the country look now?
                                Only going to get worst!
                                Watch your mouth lil boy.
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                                • I/O
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-26-11
                                  • 7922

                                  #17
                                  Barney Frank is still trying to give every mammal with two legs a house. Regardless of their credit.

                                  he's also trying to find a tight anus
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                                  • nosniboR11
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-02-08
                                    • 10042

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by King Mayan
                                    Watch your mouth lil boy.
                                    what you going to do
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                                    • PittsburghPlayer
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-11-10
                                      • 6760

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jarvol
                                      Obama and the Democrats who had free reign for 2 years didn't even consider overturning UIGEA or not extending the Patriot Act or not continuing fighting wars of aggression in 3rd world countries who never attacked nor threatened America. It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference. If you want actual change and your freedoms and liberties back then you had better start voting for Ron Paul and the Libertarians scattered across the ballots. Otherwise blue sheep and red sheep will continue to idiotically debate their differences when the only real difference is a facade pulled out of a box of Crayolas.
                                      There has to be an answer to solve our problems, but so long as we remain a divided nation it will never be realized - as it is going to take some form of (peaceful) revolution and protests to make any impact. Not just words and complaining. Sad the way we have let television/entertainment and cash ruin what was once a great nation. The only answer I have come up with is to not have any children for big biz and the gov`t to exploit and/or make a soldier of, as I really don`t see things getting better no matter who is in office. Call me a pessimist. You can also call me a twat licker. I LOVE snapper!! Good luck Men.
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                                      • King Mayan
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-22-10
                                        • 21326

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                        what you going to do
                                        Nos, get the fukk outta here, before I go to Texas and whoop your ass.
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                                        • P.F.Kasooff
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-13-10
                                          • 1903

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jarvol

                                          It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference.

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                                          • scratbandit
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-07-09
                                            • 548

                                            #22
                                            Hell move to Canada and you can play poker all you want...
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                                            • hankcream
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-30-10
                                              • 2048

                                              #23
                                              Vote Ron Paul
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                                              • jgilmartin
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-31-09
                                                • 1119

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jarvol
                                                Obama and the Democrats who had free reign for 2 years didn't even consider overturning UIGEA or not extending the Patriot Act or not continuing fighting wars of aggression in 3rd world countries who never attacked nor threatened America. It is just more of the same. Bush/Cheney......Obama/Biden.......Republican/Democrat......there is no difference. If you want actual change and your freedoms and liberties back then you had better start voting for Ron Paul and the Libertarians scattered across the ballots. Otherwise blue sheep and red sheep will continue to idiotically debate their differences when the only real difference is a facade pulled out of a box of Crayolas.
                                                This. Solid post.
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                                                • Dirty Sanchez
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-01-10
                                                  • 16031

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by hankcream
                                                  Vote Ron Paul




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                                                  • wtf
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-22-08
                                                    • 12983

                                                    #26
                                                    maybe ron paul wont win, but it looks like he is truly opening the door for a third party

                                                    then things will REALLY change
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                                                    • Naz18
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-10-09
                                                      • 4277

                                                      #27
                                                      They weren't going to save it, just never had the intention to destroy it.
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                                                      • The Madcap
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-03-10
                                                        • 2808

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                                        This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. This has to do with well funded lobbyists.

                                                        Jon Kyl--the GOP senator from Arizona vowed to enforce UIGEA to his last breath in office-----he even held up routine judicial appointments until the WH promised him more diligence on UIGEA enforcement. Then, suddenly Gary Loveman, CEO of Ceaser's Entertainment (Who just so happen to own the rights to the WSOP-----went public with his prediction/support for internet poker being legal, regulated and of course, taxed.

                                                        Suddenly Kyl dropped his fierce opposition to anything to do with UIGEA. Why? Because Loveman loves him some GOP politicians. He throws money at them like JJ throws cash at cheap hookers. Suddenly, poker is fast tracked to be legalized by the spring.

                                                        The Dems had a chance----Barney Frank wanted to crush UIGEA but he never demonstrated the political toughness to get it through. He folded. I am certain, if someone had ponied up, UIGEA would be dead by now.


                                                        Somebody who understands the game.
                                                        No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.
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                                                        • The Madcap
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-03-10
                                                          • 2808

                                                          #29
                                                          As martin points out, it all comes down to money.

                                                          Anti-gambling lobbies do exist. They are funded in large part by Christian organizations and (believe it or not) certain organized crime syndicates. These groups also donate large funds to GOP lawmakers. You replace the GOP's need to kiss a bunch of evangelical ass and you remove the hindrances to legalized gambling.
                                                          No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.
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