Why are Brewers (Marcum) only -136 at NYM (Pelfrey)?

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  • SaintsFan
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    • 08-12-11
    • 355

    #1
    Why are Brewers (Marcum) only -136 at NYM (Pelfrey)?
    In the past month that I've been active on baseball wagering I have yet to bet in a game involving the Metropolitans. I am very familiar with the Brewers, however and I'm puzzled why a legitimate top 10 pitcher in the NL (Marcum - who has been on fire) is not a heavier favorite against a mediocre right-hander like Pelfrey?

    Further, I like a red hot team like Milwaukee coming off a loss, especially on the first game of a road trip in NYC where you know they'll be geeked up, excited to be away from the wives/girlfriends and go pussy tubing in the big city after a win, etc. The Mets are still without Reyes, have been out of contention for ages, etc.

    What gives? Assuming that the Brewers have their normal lineup in place (Hart/Morgan/Hebrew Hammer/Fielder/McGahee/Betancourt) I'm almost certainly going to be heavy on MIL.

    Starting pitching - Edge Brewers (considerable)
    Offensive lineup - Edge Brewers (considerable)
    Relief pitching - Edge Brewers (moderate)
    Defensive fielding - Edge Metropolitans (minor)
  • rm18
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-05
    • 22291

    #2
    Brewers have a bad road receord but I like the Brewers, Marcum in a pitchers park against a team without their two best hitters is lights out.
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    • SaintsFan
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      • 08-12-11
      • 355

      #3
      Originally posted by rm18
      Brewers have a bad road receord but I like the Brewers, Marcum in a pitchers park against a team without their two best hitters is lights out.
      I think their lousy road record was hugely caused by their shitty fielding and no Greinke at the start of the season.

      Their fielding has improved considerably and Greinke has obviously returned to be a top 5 pitcher in the NL (argualy top 3). The Brewers had a really tough and successful road trip 2 weeks ago, winning series in San Francisco and St Louis and pulling away from the pack.

      All that is to say that I agree with you. I'd rather have Greinke on the hill than Marcum but this seems like a mismatch and that there's tons of value on the Milwaukee side tonight.

      Just waiting for lineup confirmation that Braun/Fielder/Hart/McGahee are all in the lineup. There had been some rumors that Roenicke was going to start resting a guy here and there.
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      • jarvol
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-13-10
        • 6074

        #4
        BrewCrew hasn't scored in a week.
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        • milwaukee mike
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          • 08-22-07
          • 26914

          #5
          sooner or later the brewers are going to bust out the bats but even without them marcum should shut down the mets.
          i would lean brewers or even brewers on the run line -1 1/2
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          • bobby heenan
            SBR MVP
            • 03-20-09
            • 4120

            #6
            probably the same reason the dodgers were 123 favorites in milwaukee yesterday...which i played.....good pitcher on the mound(kershaw)....but the bats have been cold.....but at least milwaukees lineup is much more capable than the dodgers.....and they are due

            lemme know when you get that lineup confirmed and im on it too
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            • tanner40
              SBR MVP
              • 03-24-10
              • 2129

              #7
              Road juice isn't good
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              • bobby heenan
                SBR MVP
                • 03-20-09
                • 4120

                #8
                Originally posted by tanner40
                Road juice isn't good
                while i usually agree.....it worked yesterday with kershaw and romero.....now i dont think of marcum in their category....but hes good....and pelfrey isnt....romero was against cahill whos been shit....estrada vs kershaw was a mismatch too
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                • rm18
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-20-05
                  • 22291

                  #9
                  mets going with a strange lineup getting some extra lefties in there I guess
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                  • rm18
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-20-05
                    • 22291

                    #10
                    Hart RF, Morgan CF, Braun LF, Fielder 1B, McGehee 3B, Betancourt SS, Lucroy C, Counsell 2B, Marcum P
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Hart RF, Morgan CF, Braun LF, Fielder 1B, McGehee 3B, Betancourt SS, Lucroy C, Counsell 2B, Marcum P
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                      • bobby heenan
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-20-09
                        • 4120

                        #12
                        all over it!
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          LOL

                          never mind
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                          • neverstoppers23
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-26-09
                            • 6302

                            #14
                            Dumbass public still believes some how the brewers can't win the road, when in reality the bad record on the road really just means that we played our worst ball while on a long road trip. I will be on this all night long.
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                            • neverstoppers23
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-26-09
                              • 6302

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SaintsFan
                              I think their lousy road record was hugely caused by their shitty fielding and no Greinke at the start of the season.

                              Their fielding has improved considerably and Greinke has obviously returned to be a top 5 pitcher in the NL (argualy top 3). The Brewers had a really tough and successful road trip 2 weeks ago, winning series in San Francisco and St Louis and pulling away from the pack.

                              All that is to say that I agree with you. I'd rather have Greinke on the hill than Marcum but this seems like a mismatch and that there's tons of value on the Milwaukee side tonight.

                              Just waiting for lineup confirmation that Braun/Fielder/Hart/McGahee are all in the lineup. There had been some rumors that Roenicke was going to start resting a guy here and there.
                              Brewers won't rest Fielder, he doesn't need it. The plan has been known that they are going to give Braun days off here and there to keep his leg injuries stable.
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                              • Gee
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                                • 04-08-10
                                • 4547

                                #16
                                Originally posted by neverstoppers23
                                Dumbass public still believes some how the brewers can't win the road, when in reality the bad record on the road really just means that we played our worst ball while on a long road trip. I will be on this all night long.
                                85% on brewers. What crap you talking?
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                                • as99
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-25-10
                                  • 1585

                                  #17
                                  Brewers can barely score a run these days, but then the logic is always they're bound to break out.
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                                  • bobby heenan
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-20-09
                                    • 4120

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by as99
                                    Brewers can barely score a run these days, but then the logic is always they're bound to break out.
                                    and pelfrey is just the man to do it against
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                                    • Glitch
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-08-09
                                      • 11795

                                      #19
                                      currently 98% on brewers runline. 84% on brewers moneyline.
                                      (courtesy of pregame.com)

                                      i wouldnt touch this with a 10-foot pole.
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                                      • ciscomr23
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 04-25-10
                                        • 621

                                        #20
                                        i like the over
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                                        • Avenger
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-15-11
                                          • 2119

                                          #21
                                          Brewers play bad in the big city, your post may give clues why. They win this one but I'm fading them the rest of the series, don't care whose pitching/hitting.
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                                          • will2survive
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-26-09
                                            • 8099

                                            #22
                                            Brewers are a killer home team but have been lackluster on the road---that's your answer
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                                            • face
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-31-11
                                              • 14740

                                              #23
                                              mike pelfrey is due for more suckiness. but mets are a little unpredictable. line is about right i guess. looks good for brewers.
                                              1. Angel Pagan (S) CF
                                              2. Willie Harris (L) 2B not too good
                                              3. David Wright (R) 3B
                                              4. Lucas Duda (L) 1B
                                              5. Mike Baxter (L) RF never heard of.
                                              6. Jason Pridie (L) LF sucks ass.
                                              7. Josh Thole (L) C sucks ass, lots of pass balls
                                              8. Ruben Tejada (R) SS good fielder, sucks ass at at plate.
                                              9. Mike Pelfrey (R) P sucks ass.
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                                              • pacocn
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-05-10
                                                • 12934

                                                #24
                                                books got their money in the chicago game
                                                they can't f us again can they?
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                                                • MoneyLineDawg
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                  • 13253

                                                  #25
                                                  Took Brew Crew, Yankees, and Angels ML's for a parlay.....pays +320
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                                                  • HoulihansTX
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                                                    • 02-12-09
                                                    • 30566

                                                    #26
                                                    Mike Pelfrey has strong home numbers, but we all know that he can not be trusted with our $$$$$
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                                                    • JD426
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-08-10
                                                      • 511

                                                      #27
                                                      looks like rain... SP getting knocked out early because of a delay would be big advantage for NYM
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                                                      • DDT
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-22-09
                                                        • 3757

                                                        #28
                                                        I like the Crew here as well
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                                                        • bobby heenan
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-20-09
                                                          • 4120

                                                          #29
                                                          bummpppp
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            nice easy win

                                                            good work with that parlay moneylinedog, not often you can take a 3-team mlb parlay and each pick wins by at least 5 runs
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                                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                                              • 02-12-09
                                                              • 30566

                                                              #31
                                                              -130 on the road is not a cheap fav by any means, but the line did stick out to me.
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