Poker rollover chit chat

[robmpink]

I really like the rollover requirements, it encourages people to play the rings game and give action.
I also want to say that SBR is not required to give you free poker tournaments in which you can win points. What SBR is doing is giving us the privilege to partake in these free tournaments If you don't like the rules, then don't play, that way there will be extra spots for people that actually appreciate the privilege and won't complain about having to rollover their free points.

Guy, take the shoe out of your ass. He asked us what we think. You talk about the "privilege". Would this "privilege" be here if pros didn't deposit $200 into such and such a book? It works both ways. Who wants to sit there for hours trying to rollover a few dollars worth of SBR points?

[mattmc419]

Starting another rollover tonight for 1110 (370 x 3)

Getting used to it now, but really think a 2x requirement would be sufficient. Lots of good players at those tables.

[SBR_John]

Starting another rollover tonight for 1110 (370 x 3)

Getting used to it now, but really think a 2x requirement would be sufficient. Lots of good players at those tables.

Originally it was going to be 5x.

[Royfus777]

Originally it was going to be 5x.

dear lord.....

[BarkingToad]

Maybe we ought to get some race games, guts, and all in or nothing going at the tables to get the 3x rollover done in a fraction of the time.

[pavyracer]

Originally it was going to be 5x.

Who was the genius who came up with the 5X? You know we are going to ask them to play poker for 2 hrs every day to win the points and then play 6 more hrs to roll it over. Hey we might as well ask them to quit their jobs and abandon their families to win 100 points.

[mattmc419]

Who was the genius who came up with the 5X? You know we are going to ask them to play poker for 2 hrs every day to win the points and then play 6 more hrs to roll it over. Hey we might as well ask them to quit their jobs and abandon their families to win 100 points.

lol, I still think 2X makes sense for all sides.

5X is clearly way too much because of the time commitment required, but even 3X takes a decent amount of time to complete.

That being said, I need to win another one either way...lol

[Tseay]

Now it is really hard to complain about a few extra hoops to keep points that cost nothing (for a pro) except that we get to play poker for free ( not like Bodog). And, this certainly isnt gambling, you can get a nice hat. I like the Rollover requirement, make me earn my hat.

[hyudra]

It's pretty fast to roll over on a 1/2 6 handed table. I rolled over 200 pts very fast and made out ahead a tidy sum.

[Dabeergod]

No rollover was definitely much better. Should be no rollover for pros and rollover for non pros. Rollover also sucks cuz it makes you play the cash games for way to long and in many cases you don't even get back the amount of points that you expect to get after you finish with the rollover. So basically the rollover system sucks !!!

[konck]

3 times roll over in poker with an option of 5 times roll over in the sportsbook

[QuantumLeap]

My rollover points have stayed about the same the last 2 nights. Does it just count when you lose because I've won the last 2 nights. I load up for 200 points and cash out with over 300 but I play in several hands. Why are my rollover points not counting up?

[EmpireMaker]

2x rollover is a much better idea it takes too long to rollover 3x

[JACK MATZ]

It's ok if you have no other life....... Some people have a job, have sex, go outside the house, ect......
Cut the rollover at least in half.
Pros should have no rollover!
Peace!

[LUCKYCHUCK]

havent tried this yet

[andy888]

oh damn, so much betting for me this week with football!! but i still love to do that all the time

[SBR_John]

My rollover points have stayed about the same the last 2 nights. Does it just count when you lose because I've won the last 2 nights. I load up for 200 points and cash out with over 300 but I play in several hands. Why are my rollover points not counting up?

It goes by bets called. In the testing I rolled over 150 points in 35 minutes and 300 points in an hour. Much easier on the 6 man tables btw.

Keep in mind we made it easier to win by cutting the number of players nearly in half from last year. So those 80 man tourneys took almost twice as long as the current 45 player format but there was no rollover. It actually takes about the same amount of time if you add it all up.

[Doc JS]

It goes by bets called. In the testing I rolled over 150 points in 35 minutes and 300 points in an hour. Much easier on the 6 man tables btw.

I do think its wrong that split pots don't count toward rollover.

I haven't been able to roll my points over quite that quickly. But all in all, it hasn't been a burden.

[pavyracer]

Well you can roll it over in 5 min or go busto if you keep going ALL IN. But that's not poker. Everyone who says they can roll 500 points at 1/2 tables in less than 4 hrs is flat out lying or getting pocket A's every 3 hands.

[hhsilver]

I do think its wrong that split pots don't count toward rollover.

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there was another thread about this ... I posted the following on 8/23 . It was the last post in the thread , so very few saw it.

About the split pots : I was curious about this when I first saw this thread. Yesterday I was involved in two split pots - one relatively big. So I went thru my hand history ( it wasn't a long session ) and according to my calculations , unless I'm mistaken, the split pot bets did count toward my rollover.

It's about 10 days since Lou told you it would happen after an update, so I guess the recent update took care of this. I haven't seen this discussed anywhere else, so I thought I'd report it here.

When I first saw this thread I couldn't imagine a reason for the bets not counting - the rake certainly is based on those bets.

If I'm wrong about this , I wish a poker mod/tech would comment.

[SBR_John]

Well you can roll it over in 5 min or go busto if you keep going ALL IN. But that's not poker. Everyone who says they can roll 500 points at 1/2 tables in less than 4 hrs is flat out lying or getting pocket A's every 3 hands.

You only have 125 points of called bets an hour on a 1/2? I was getting 300 an hour and never initiated an all in for testing purposes. Next time, keep an impromptu log. You would slip into a coma from boredom if you could only get 125 points an hour called on a 1/2. You are probably in the 350/hr range.

OK we will look into fixing the split pot. I agree, it should count.

[khicks26]

how about 6 max tables for every limit. this may make the roll over go a little faster. also would like to see 25nl tables for players that win smaller prizes in the tournys.

[Doc JS]

how about 6 max tables for every limit. this may make the roll over go a little faster. also would like to see a 25nl tables for players that win smaller prizes in the tournys.

I'm OK with both options...

I think for folks that like to "splash around" in a lot of pots, 6 a table is fine. Some folks tend to be a little more conservative and prefer 10 per table.

I do agree if you have a lot of points to rollover the $2/$4 table is the way to go.

[Doc JS]

OK we will look into fixing the split pot. I agree, it should count.

Thanks, John...

It meets the criteria, your points are at risk, it's a called bet. Its not anyones "fault" that the pot gets split. It should count.

And it happens more than you would think...Id say wind up in a split pot or two a session. And there are usually several split pots at whatever table I'm sitting at a session.

[hhsilver]

OK we will look into fixing the split pot. I agree, it should count.

does anybody read my posts???? ( see above) I had a two split pots in a short session. One was very big compared to most of the pots i was involved in. I checked the hand history for that session. The split pots clearly counted toward rollover. That wasn't the case, apparently , at the beginning, but I believe it was fixed in an update before 8/23.

[Doc JS]

Hhsilver,

If its been fixed, great! I could swear that I was involved in a split pot that didn't count (I keep the rollover log open to keep track of it while I'm playing) But in all honesty, I haven't looked at hand histories, I could certainly be wrong. As I said, if its been fixed great! Sorry I brought it up.

Doc

[mattmc419]

I had a split pot last time I cashed (a few days ago), and it didn't count towards rollover. I think it still needs to be fixed lol

[BarkingToad]

You only have 125 points of called bets an hour on a 1/2? I was getting 300 an hour and never initiated an all in for testing purposes. Next time, keep an impromptu log. You would slip into a coma from boredom if you could only get 125 points an hour called on a 1/2. You are probably in the 350/hr range.

OK we will look into fixing the split pot. I agree, it should count.

That's the point exactly. While you're the boss and it's your show, it took me 2 hours to rollover 200 points even playing multi tables when available. I cashed out 220 pts, definite laws of diminishing returns. I like the suggestion of sportsbook rollover. It may get some decent players to play that wouldn't otherwise.

Maybe Mexican Stallion or some other points entrepreneur can set up shop at a poker table where for every 100 bonus points we lose/give to them, they return 80 points of regular.

[Royfus777]

It goes by bets called. In the testing I rolled over 150 points in 35 minutes and 300 points in an hour. Much easier on the 6 man tables btw.

Keep in mind we made it easier to win by cutting the number of players nearly in half from last year. So those 80 man tourneys took almost twice as long as the current 45 player format but there was no rollover. It actually takes about the same amount of time if you add it all up.

I'd still rather play in 80 man tournys

[hhsilver]

Doc -- what's a rollover log. Does the system have that available? Or is that something you are doing on your own to try to keep track?

Anyway, that split pot I was involved in was big compared to all my other hands in a short session - maybe 10-12 total hands, most small or me folding. The hand history was easy to check because there were so few hands. For that session it was clear to me that the split pot amount counted in rollover.

[Doc JS]

Doc -- what's a rollover log. Does the system have that available? Or is that something you are doing on your own to try to keep track?

From the table you're playing, click on Show Lobby, then the click the button in the lower left (I'm posting from my phone so I can't check the name of the buton right now. I will update when I get home and check it), it keeps up with the rollover. I slide that window just to the right of the table I'm playing at so I can always know where I stand on my rollover.

[hhsilver]

From the table you're playing, click on Show Lobby, then the click the button in the lower left (I'm posting from my phone so I can't check the name of the buton right now. I will update when I get home and check it), it keeps up with the rollover. I slide that window just to the right of the table I'm playing at so I can always know where I stand on my rollover.

thanks - I didn't know about that

[Doc JS]

thanks - I didn't know about that

No problem. Glad to share! It updates after every hand so you know just where you stand.

Keeping the rollover window open (usually, but not always damnit! LoL...) keeps me from doing anything stupid when I'm close to finishing my rollover.

[ronibrown]

roll it..

[mikejamm]

It goes by bets called. In the testing I rolled over 150 points in 35 minutes and 300 points in an hour. Much easier on the 6 man tables btw. Keep in mind we made it easier to win by cutting the number of players nearly in half from last year. So those 80 man tourneys took almost twice as long as the current 45 player format but there was no rollover. It actually takes about the same amount of time if you add it all up.

This is total bullshit! The same amount of time? I would rather play in a longer 80 man tourney than have to sit for fuk'in hours on different days trying to rollover points already won. This is a bullshit excuse John to justify extra rake at ring tables and force players to lose points by getting fuked on bullshit calls and lucky ass river cards. You've really taken the enjoyment out of winning a tournament and forced people into making it a fuk'in grind to come away with anything. Same amount of time, yeah right, maybe for you, then again I guess you and a few others can pretty much sit around and play poker all fuk'in day if you want to, the rest of us got real lives in the real fuk'in world!