My final Creditwagering thread

[purecarnagge]

Guess you guys have not noticed interest rates lately. No one is making much at any bank.

I'm getting 6% and I don't even have 100k with them.

If your going to give a bank 1 million its not like you get the posted rate...you can negotiate a deal. Its done daily.

[pokernut9999]

I'm getting 6% and I don't even have 100k with them.

If your going to give a bank 1 million its not like you get the posted rate...you can negotiate a deal. Its done daily.

The national average is 3.77% and the highest advertised is 4.0%

[SBR_John]

They are actually run by 5 guys and they are quite familiar with you John and the other SBR owners, ect.

Thats what they say anyway. Time will tell I guess. SBR has met 100's of books in a dozen countries in the last 8 years. In that time the only books that did not want to come clean and let us question their plans and evaluate their business in person all failed.

I have heard through the grapevine that we will likely have a chance to meet these guys and ask some tough questions like the ones in this thread. Stay tuned. We have tried before and we remain open to meet anywhere they want.

If they are in CR we are just minutes away and everyone knows our phone number and where we are.

[jjgold]

Still very few complaints on credit wagering which is unreal but a long way to go.

[shifer]

If they are in CR we are just minutes away and everyone knows our phone number and where we are.

Its amazing with all your network that you are not able to find out if they are in CR or not..

[SBR_John]

They were not even on our radar until recently. I'm pretty sure we will ramp up our knowledge base fairly quickly on them now. I think it would be good for them too. Players get nervous when books are not where they say they are and nothing is as it seems.

[pavyracer]

They were not even on our radar until recently. I'm pretty sure we will ramp up our knowledge base fairly quickly on them now. I think it would be good for them too. Players get nervous when books are not where they say they are and nothing is as it seems.

John,

They are not in San Jose, Costa Rica. They will not provide me with their address when I requested. This is a serious federal offense. I have the best in the business looking at them right now. I'll provide details as I uncover what's up with this book. Something smells fishy.

[SBR_John]

If you find something out about them would you mind PM'ing it to me first before posting it? I think we can get the players all the info on them in a way that is acceptable to all. Players deserve the info but its better if the book participates in the process.

[jjgold]

Some say they are run out of NJ

[Brady2Moss]

Im not a computer whiz, but isnt there a way of tracking the location of the IP from their server? or something like that?

[pimike]

If you find something out about them would you mind PM'ing it to me first before posting it? I think we can get the players all the info on them in a way that is acceptable to all. Players deserve the info but its better if the book participates in the process.

I would John but my pm's are missing.\

[SBR_John]

Pi, dont know anything about your PM's. Just trying to hold on to mine.

Brady2, we know exactly where their server is, its in Costa Rica.

We dont go chasing new books for information. We contact them and ask if we can question them and see their facility and get some references. I believe at first they prefered to lay low. Besides these threads we are not actively pursuing information on them because we don't have any complaints. Hopefully it stays that way.

[pavyracer]

Are the debit cards issued from a US Bank? I can have the Feds do a check through the classified database and get a hold of who authorizes the debit cards. I have access to the director of homeland security for the Southeast.

[SBR Lou]

I can have the Feds do a check through the classified database and get a hold of who authorizes the debit cards.

I doubt anyone with the debit card would provide that information. Why would they?

[pimike]

Are the debit cards issued from a US Bank? I can have the Feds do a check through the classified database and get a hold of who authorizes the debit cards. I have access to the director of homeland security for the Southeast.

[pavyracer]

I doubt anyone with the debit card would provide that information. Why would they?

It won't be necessary. I'm expecting one soon. The truth will come out. All we need to know is if they are operating from the US which is illegal.

[pavyracer]

Don't laugh pimike. We are best buddies with the director. Anyone that knows me knows I'm serious.

[pimike]

It won't be necessary. I'm expecting one soon. The truth will come out. All we need to know is if they are operating from the US which is illegal.

Unfortunetly so is gambling on line, so what is it that bothers you. Half of the SBR members are in violation.

[pimike]

Don't laugh pimike. We are best buddies with the director. Anyone that knows me knows I'm serious.

Homeland security could care less about bookies and gambling.

so what your point

[pavyracer]

Homeland security could care less about bookies and gambling.

so what your point

My sources at homeland security, which you chose to discredit, have known for months now that suspected terrorists are using sportsbooks for money laundering. A major bust will be announced soon and the reprications to those assisting terrorists will be huge. You can run but you can't hide. If illegal activity is uncovered you are toasted.

[pimike]

My sources at homeland security, which you chose to discredit, have known for months now that suspected terrorists are using sportsbooks for money laundering. A major bust will be announced soon and the reprications to those assisting terrorists will be huge. You can run but you can't hide. If illegal activity is uncovered you are toasted.

Thanks for the laugh buddy

[flyingillini]

Thanks for the laugh buddy

Agreed. My sources hahaaha

[pimike]

Agreed. My sources hahaaha

Hey buddy is everything ok where your at. Dam news make it sound like the whole are is under fire.

[flyingillini]

Hey buddy is everything ok where your at. Dam news make it sound like the whole are is under fire.

No it is not ok. I am not even joking it is absolute chaos out here. My power goes on and off. 250K people have not had power in 3 days... It is hard to breathe.. ash everywhere.. where I live is on a hillside and it is around 3 miles away and I have a reverse 911 set up.. my neighbors have fled.. I am here waiting for the call to leave.. it is out of control.... i got all my valuables out and I am ready to leave.. it sucks man and depressing here in santa barbara.. this is one of the nicest places in the country and it is about to go up in flames...

[topcat]

...ok, maybe not my last.

No one at this site in the position of rating or reviewing sportsbooks believes this sportsbook will survive.

I know there are a few SBR'ers that have stated they have been paid. No reason to doubt them.

What I want to be clear about is SBR strongly believes this business will fail. Probably sooner rather than later. Dont send this book your personal info based on what anyone says.

If you do send your info just know there is not one established industry expert at any player advocate site or in Costa Rica that we know of that believes this book has even the slightest chance of surviving.

It would be good if the mods would merge all of the creditwagering threads except this one so it does not appear as if they are promoted here.

i hope your post saves people the cost of having their idenity stolen.

[bigugly]

John, just want to extend my thanks to you for helping to keep us all safe! Good thread.

[SBR_John]

From the mail bag...obviously a big fan.
"You are being too hard on this book! There is NOT a single complaint No slow pays and NO no pays. Your public opinions are hurting this book. How would you like to be a new book and have SBR announce you are going out of business soon??? Based on nothing except a gut feeling!"

Maybe others feel this way too? Guys, first of all my opinions are not based on "nothing". I did the math earlier in this thread and invited CW to tell me where I'm wrong either publicly or privately.

As I've said I do not have anything against them. This is business its not personal. SBR is open to learn how this model can work. We are open 7 days a week in Country Plaza in Escazu, Costa Rica.

[pavyracer]

From the mail bag...obviously a big fan.
"You are being too hard on this book! There is NOT a single complaint No slow pays and NO no pays. Your public opinions are hurting this book. How would you like to be a new book and have SBR announce you are going out of business soon??? Based on nothing except a gut feeling!"

Maybe others feel this way too? Guys, first of all my opinions are not based on "nothing". I did the math earlier in this thread and invited CW to tell me where I'm wrong either publicly or privately.

As I've said I do not have anything against them. This is business its not personal. SBR is open to learn how this model can work. We are open 7 days a week in Country Plaza in Escazu, Costa Rica.

That's where all the bordellos are located.

[Cloak & Dagger]

From the mail bag...obviously a big fan.
"You are being too hard on this book! There is NOT a single complaint No slow pays and NO no pays. Your public opinions are hurting this book. How would you like to be a new book and have SBR announce you are going out of business soon??? Based on nothing except a gut feeling!"

Maybe others feel this way too? Guys, first of all my opinions are not based on "nothing". I did the math earlier in this thread and invited CW to tell me where I'm wrong either publicly or privately.

As I've said I do not have anything against them. This is business its not personal. SBR is open to learn how this model can work. We are open 7 days a week in Country Plaza in Escazu, Costa Rica.

[sb1384]

anyone having problems with payours

i know creditwagering.com has been blasted on this site for some of their collection tactics, business model and overall viability. I'm not interested in drumming that up again, as it's been discussed at length. My question is with respect to payouts. Has anyone been screwed by this company? Anyone waiting longer than they had been told for withdrawals? Just trying to get a feel for early warning signs of a crunch. Thanks in advance

[rcn848]

So basically even with generous numbers you can make more money by putting 5 million into a savings account with a bank with no risk.

No.

It's not remotely the same thing. They never had $5 million (or whatever amount of bets they are getting -- at $100 a pop I doubt their handle is anywhere near that high). You don't have to have $5M to bet $5M in a year (or to take $5M in bets), you can do it with a tiny percentage of that.

If creditwagering (or any book or player) holds 7% of the handle they are getting a much better return on their money than getting 5% on a CD or whatever.

[SBR_John]

sb none that I've heard of that would be warning signs. Every book gets a few dinks, but as far as legit payout complaints, none so far.

[Richkas]

Still very few complaints on credit wagering which is unreal but a long way to go.

JJ they are a a+ book

I will make a video about this

people who work for sbr will have feelings hurt

[bigboydan]

JJ they are a a+ book

I will make a video about this

people who work for sbr will have feelings hurt

Mr.Rickas, In one of your videos earlier in the week you mentioned they didn't renew there advertising with you. My question is, may I ask what they are paying you to advertise there site?

[Richkas]

Mr.Rickas, In one of your videos earlier in the week you mentioned they didn't renew there advertising with you. My question is, may I ask what they are paying you to advertise there site?

not in public, call me